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The barricades are down, I walloped 'em, but these confounded doors... there are 3 others out here, apparently, but they seem to be inactive...

 kronk wrote:
The links work. I can see them. But I can't add them.

Have you tried clicking on Damn Jensen's name in the game screen and then trying to add him?




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 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
The barricades are down, I walloped 'em, but these confounded doors... there are 3 others out here, apparently, but they seem to be inactive...

I opened the doors for you.

Then here comes the impatient Patient 13!

Used my Ap to Bite Stryker II, he's at 48 hp...
Should get another AP in about 15 mins or so, then I'll do it again...

Welcome to the inside!

Looks like both of the humans that we killed have risen and moved away. EDIT: Oops, one of them is still here.

They probably moved to the Bhore Monument revive point west of here.


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 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:

Used my Ap to Bite Stryker II, he's at 48 hp...
Should get another AP in about 15 mins or so, then I'll do it again...

Someone used a FAK to heal him. He was at 30 HP a short while ago.

I like it in here... lots of things to bite!

I knocked striker down to 42 hitpoints. Get him/her!

Kono showed up.

Kono began to rebuild the barricades, using a freezer. (58 minutes ago)
Kono killed a zombie with a pistol. (57 minutes ago)

Bastid! He rebuilt the barricades and killed one of us...hmm...starts looking around to see who is missing.

Stryker II is now at 39 HP.

I'm here!

I mean. Gwar!

Took two bites at Stryker, but both missed - no AP

Wasn't Monster Rain in here before?

Anyone outside see a body named Ossifer Butthead?

He was out there when I was, so I guess he's outside...

Biting is not very effective is it?

What is your hit probability?

20% for 4 damage, I think, as opposed to a 25% to do 2 damage... this is all IIRC, I've not actually had a chance to try and hit many humans so far...

35% for me to hit for 2 damage, which I'm taking over the 20% chance for 4.

Gwar!

That sounds right, Kronk is probably on the mark with the numbers, I went for impact over accuracy, but I've not math-hammered it to see what's most effective...

Wait a second, where is Damn Jensen?

He might have been outside? Or maybe back at the hotel I was at previously? I don't remember where I saw him...

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
He might have been outside? Or maybe back at the hotel I was at previously? I don't remember where I saw him...

He was one of the first zombies to make it inside the Mall.

Now he is not here. Did Kono kill him and dump the body outside?

With the starting zombie skill, bite does more DPS than Claw (and your XP for an attack is equal to the damage you deal against humans).

Basically:

- at the start, use Bite against humans unless they have 2 hp left. Use Claw against barricades and stuff because Bite doesn't do anything to them.
- for your first upgrade, +10% to hit with Bite will give you the mightiest anti-human DPS of any first zombie upgrade at 1.2 (not counting the starter zombie skill that you get for starting the game as a zombie). +15% to hit with Claw will make Claw better than stock Bite and gives you the best stuff-wrecking performance, which may or may not matter depending on how much you're hitting barricades. +1 damage to Claw is slightly better for DPS than +15% to hit, but doesn't to my knowledge help against barricades. For your second upgrade, taking the other Claw upgrade will make it do more DPS than the upgraded Bite does.

The other upside to Bite is you can take Digestion to turn it into a heal and let you feed on dead bodies as well. I'm not sure how much that will do for you, since most of the time I seem to either be in perfect health or dead. YMMV though!

I ended up going for the Claw accuracy skill so that I can beat up barricades and stuff better (which is suboptimal from an XP point of view, as humans give wayyyyy better XP, but whatever, I wanted to break a door at the time) and have better damage next level.

Could have done, maybe I saw his body outside?

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
Could have done, maybe I saw his body outside?

Did you step on his body to climb in the window?



HiveFleetPlastic, those are interesting numbers. I've never bothered to bite anyone but claws seem to work well for me. As you pointed out, only the claws work versus barricades. There is another bite upgrade so maybe I'll bite humans more often after I take that skill.

We need to put Striker II down for the count. EDIT: He is at 34 HP now.

He is one of three Level 43 humans still in the mall. There is also a level 1 in here. Maybe he will run away.

Since you have all the Claw upgrades, you only want to Bite anyone when you need the Digestion hp (and you probably want to land a Claw first for the Tangling Grasp bonus).

Really, the base numbers aren't that far off, so if you've just used Claw the whole time and didn't upgrade Bite then you weren't missing much (Claw is 0.7 base vs Bite's 0.8).

Hmm...just learned that according to the barrier plan, the humans are probably using the junkyard or the warehouse as their entry point.

If either of those points is barricaded at less than Heavily Barricaded level (such as VSB), those would be good points to ruin.

Just something to keep in mind to check after we finish (for good or ill) in Mitchem Mall.

Went to bite Stryker again, missed one, but the other one hit - but it only put him down to 46? Maybe I misread it?

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
Went to bite Stryker again, missed one, but the other one hit - but it only put him down to 46? Maybe I misread it?

Nope. You read it correctly. The human reinforcements showed up and killed or revivified about four of us. Look around. How many zombies do you see inside?

I was revivified and dumped. I just stood up outside the Mall as a human. FREE CHICKEN!! All of you new zombies need to hit me for easy XP!!

Ah, I didn't read the current affairs, just went on the offensive... I might die horribly now, seeing as I'm out of AP...

This is the outside view:

You are standing outside Mitchem Mall, a derelict grey-stone building which has partially collapsed. The building has been extremely heavily barricaded - you can see no way to enter.

Lights are on inside.

Somebody has spraypainted Brains R Us has moved to Caiger Mall. onto a wall.

There are four zombies here. You recognise Ossifer Butthead, Azazel the Cat and Damn Jensen amongst them.

There are nine dead bodies here. You recognise Doctadeth, Joshua Lemon, Albacorpse, The Kronk Shuffle and Lost My Dog amongst them.

So I assume you are almost alone in there except for Patient13, Savus Jebus, notpopped, and some humans.

Stryker II seems to be a never-ending meat source. His health just keeps going up.

I think JB and I just got revivified and dumped outside. Is it worth running around as a survivor for the XP?

Yeah I keep missing that bastiche too! :(

Some berk called Kono keeps popping in and slotting poor innocent Zeds. I will avenge thee brosephs or more likely die trying.

HiveFleetPlastic wrote:
Stryker II seems to be a never-ending meat source. His health just keeps going up.

I think JB and I just got revivified and dumped outside. Is it worth running around as a survivor for the XP?

It is better to stand up and sacrifice yourself to the rest of the horde so that they can get XP and you can return to blissful zombiehood.

Even in death, we still triumph!