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Im outside the Godfy museum and ive smashed it down to around lightly. Go get em Nurglings

You are inside the Daniels Museum, its extensive collection of skeletons now thick with dust. The doors to the street have been left wide open. Also here are Campbell Grey, Diego del Toro, Dr Dempsky, Michael Ashford, BrotherMcBeaner and Simonetta Zolfanelli.

A portable generator has been set up here. It is running, and powering a radio transmitter that's currently set to 26.34 MHz. One room of the museum has been cleared, for the display of a fish skeleton, nine skulls and a bird skeleton.

Somebody has spraypainted Praise be, no ledge! onto a wall

Get some backup in here!

On m'way!

Inside the museum, Campbell Grey is down to 16 HP. Should be an easy lunch bonus for anyone that's a low level.

Ok thanks.

The Godfrey Museum, SW of Shyar, is now open

No humans inside, just a generator and thirteen sculptures.

Bromsy wrote:I'm leaving Bromsie as ASI, forever. No matter how depressing his contacts list gets. I log in to bludgeon fools over the Chud occasionally.

Your still in my contacts but I'm guessing your not on very often. Do you know of any more than the three of us that I already know? I'll continue flying the flag for ASI too whatever the situation.


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Ruined and smashed all the decorations in Godfrey. Swaying in Shyar again.

God dammit! I'm all oomie again!

Free chicken outside Daniel Museum - get it while its fresh!

I'm the only zed inside Gelasius atm guys.

 notprop wrote:
God dammit! I'm all oomie again!

Free chicken outside Daniel Museum - get it while its fresh!

I'll do what I can but I'm low on AP now.

 Just Dave wrote:
I'm the only zed inside Gelasius atm guys.

You were the only zed.

BTW, nice destruction at Godfry by Casey's Law. I came back from lunch to find the whole building devastated!

Im back at Shyar. Damn you Kronk, hideing in the dark!

notprop wrote:God dammit! I'm all oomie again!
Free chicken outside Daniel Museum - get it while its fresh!

If you can get inside a tall building you can jump out to kill yourself and then continue going about your Zombie buisness.

JB wrote:BTW, nice destruction at Godfry by Casey's Law. I came back from lunch to find the whole building devastated!

Haha, thanks. To be fair you guys have already emptied it so it was a really easy job.

Peter hospital is open with one inside, as well as a generator.

I infected him but I ran out of AP, so I fell back to Shyar.

 notprop wrote:
God dammit! I'm all oomie again!

Free chicken outside Daniel Museum - get it while its fresh!

Stop hitting me! I'm trying my best! It's not my fault I couldn't hit the side of a barn!

 Steve steveson wrote:

 notprop wrote:
God dammit! I'm all oomie again!

Free chicken outside Daniel Museum - get it while its fresh!

Stop hitting me! I'm trying my best! It's not my fault I couldn't hit the side of a barn!

Haha, I would tryi to goad you pansies into doing it and save me the hassle of finding a tall building.

Personally I was chuffed to bits at striking you on the third attempt!

(it usually takes longer when trying to hit kronk)

I'll keep attacking you every half hour, but it may take a while if noone else helps. I just missed again.

peter hostpital still open with one insidee larry something, i got him down to 26hp

I re-broke the Daniels Museum barricades and opened the door. There are six harms in here still. notpopped is also still outside.

Yeah, stop fannying about with museums and doors and kill me already.

As an Oomie I can't hit squat, undead I am a regular killin' machine! (sorta)

I thought someone else would need the XP more, so I left you alone. None of the harms in here are very damaged, so I'm not really going to be able to make much of an impact.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Also, I enjoy your take on Barhah but I think it would be good if you provided a little more guidance on it. What I struggle with is that your Barhah seems to peak at a complete absence of communal gaming. I'd like to be wrong but I see the very idea of having a clan in direct contest with your Barhah ideals. At least it contests the idea of abandoning harman methodology. I operate under the ideas you express about stopping marginalization and opposing to maintain the balance but I don't think organising ourselves contends with this doctrine.

Strategy defines our purpose; our tactics achieve it. As barhah is a strategic matter, let's always ask ourselves what we want in contrast to the survivor mindset. Survivor gameplay aims at imposing a static order on Malton. Our gameplay must be dedicated to realizing Malton's chaotic potential.

Ridleybank, the Homeland, is an instructive example of the survivor mindset at work in zambahz. Superficially, it is the opposite of what harmanz want: buildings all dark and ruined with their doors hanging loose. But this, too, is a kind of static order. This is what zambahz who still think of themselves as harmanz would produce. The RRF is ultimately just an undead version of a survivor group.

This is not because the RRF employs tactical organization. This is because their strategy is take and hold. Their strategy is not what I would call barhah. Now, the strategy of barhah does not preclude organized tactics generally. There are tactics, however, that tend to imprison zambahz in the survivor mindset. The line can seem very thin if you do not have a clear understanding of barhah.

For example, when we smash open a building, kill or chase away all the harmanz, bust the gennie, and ruin it, what should happen then? What further action justifies the investment of so much AP? The survivor mindset, which is unfortunately our default, is to defend our investment and keep it dark and ruined. Rejecting that urge does not mean we cannot be tactical; it means we must first think strategically -- and do so as zambahz.

Harmanz believe that the value of their actions depends on how long the consequences endure. If they recapture and fortify a mall only to have it ruined a day later then they say their efforts were wasted. This is because anything that disrupts their imposition of order defeats them. Therefore, if zambahz ruin a mall and it is repaired and barricaded the next day we zambahz should not say our efforts were wasted. To do so is to think like harmanz.

Now, that does not mean we should only and always strike, ruin, and move on. The harman attempt to impose order comes down to a strategy of defending resource buildings. Disrupting the harmanz sometimes entails tactically sticking around. But this is different from "holding" a building. A zambah standing in building is like a barricade; it makes the survivor attempt to impose order more expensive.

But a zambah is not a barricade. Barricades are the harmanz' second best weapon in their war to make Malton static. A barricade is frozen AP, like a zambah who has run out of AP. When we try to hold buildings, we are reducing ourselves to a piece of barricade. This is okay for when we "sleep" but otherwise? How boring! No wonder then that so few play zombahz these days. This is what I mean by the survivor mindset marginalizing zambahz.

Only when we stop thinking like harmanz can we start playing like zambahz. In Urban Dead, unlike for example Walking Dead, zambahz are not mindless props in a story about harmanz fighting each other. We are the antagonists. Without us, there is no story -- no Malton -- no Urban Dead. And yes, we can act tactically. But those tactics must always be founded on barhah strategy, otherwise the story will fizzle.

Today, harmanz outnumber zambahz nearly two to one. What that translates to is wide swathes of Malton where the game has basically ended. When I talk about barhah, I am trying to explain how this happened. It's not the harmanz' fault; they're doing exactly what they should. It's zambahz who are playing like harmanz because they never heard of barhah, or think its some religious idea, or just a slogan grumbled while eating bra!nz.

Urban Dead wrote:
Since your last turn:

o A Zombie clawed at you for 3 damage (21 minutes ago)

o The zombie grabbed hold of you (21 minutes ago)

Ewwww, not the sort of attention I was after guys, kill me don't hug me!

6hp left who wants it?

 notprop wrote:

Urban Dead wrote:
Since your last turn:

o A Zombie clawed at you for 3 damage (21 minutes ago)

o The zombie grabbed hold of you (21 minutes ago)

Ewwww, not the sort of attention I was after guys, kill me don't hug me!

6hp left who wants it?

Gotcha! second kill. Thanks

Good lad, I'm off on a rampage in a museum!

Waaaugh!

You are inside the Daniels Museum, its extensive collection of skeletons now thick with dust. The doors to the street have been left wide open. Also here are Campbell Grey (29HP), Diego del Toro (44HP), Dr Dempsky (60HP), Simonetta Zolfanelli (60HP) and Michael Ashford (60HP).

A portable generator has been set up here. It is running, and powering a radio transmitter that's currently set to 26.34 MHz. One room of the museum has been cleared, for the display of a fish skeleton, nine skulls and a bird skeleton.

Somebody has spraypainted Praise be, no ledge! onto a wall.

There are three other zombies here, two of them from your horde. You recognise Azenine, Lost My Dog and notpopped.

Campbell is on 2hp.

No one kill him he's mine!


Edit, got 'im, in your face oomies!

Thanks Manch, well done for posting that. Barhah is the ideal that founded this group but I think you'll find that most of us haven't given it any time simply because it is rarely expressed in bite sized form and many of us are casual gamers. Also, your interpretation of Barhah isn't the same as the one expressed in the wiki which is the go to guide for all players.

So allow me to extract the essence of Barhah and present it as a strategy which most effeciently achieves our ideals:
a) Designate multiple targets - More often but not always those which the harmans perceive to have tactical value.
b) Attack targets - All targets attacked simultaneously by sub groups.
c) Sway inside targets. - While waiting for AP to regenerate and until all current targets have been completely destroyed.
d) Repeat. - Using new targets, only re-designating a target once it has been renewed by the harmanz.

I believe that to be the more effective path to take from here. If there is no challenge to that conclusion and we want to execute it then we have to decide who and how we designate sub groups and targets. Of accepted and executed then it might be worth adding it to the OP.

You maul Michael Ashford for 3 damage. They drop to 18 HP.

OK I got another question for you guys, I've just bought Vigour Mortis, but it says I have a 17.5% chance of hitting with the claw attack, and 10% with teeth. Shouldn't it be higher?