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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 15:09:51
Subject: Draigo Question
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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I can't seem to find this in the FAQ.
It says that Draigo is a level 2 psyker. Does this mean he can roll on other the rule book tables just like a librarian?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 15:14:59
Subject: Draigo Question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Only the listed models in the FAQ can exchange powers. If Draigo is not mentioned, he cannot swap.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 15:15:19
Subject: Draigo Question
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Thank you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 16:24:52
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Yeah, it seems the 'All Psychic Army' was particularly snubbed when it comes to developing psychic abilities from the various tables.
I can see a certain point for why vehicles and models with the 'Brotherhood of Psykers' USR shouldn't be able to swap out and roll on Grey Knight allowed disciplines (though it would have been hilarious if they could, divination vehicles? yes please!), but I'm not honestly sure why the decision was made to bar many of the higher mastery Psykers in the codex from doing so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 16:47:10
Subject: Draigo Question
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I am thinking they wanted to keep them specialized and close to the fluff, maybe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 21:58:01
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Neorealist wrote:Yeah, it seems the 'All Psychic Army' was particularly snubbed when it comes to developing psychic abilities from the various tables.
I can see a certain point for why vehicles and models with the 'Brotherhood of Psykers' USR shouldn't be able to swap out and roll on Grey Knight allowed disciplines (though it would have been hilarious if they could, divination vehicles? yes please!), but I'm not honestly sure why the decision was made to bar many of the higher mastery Psykers in the codex from doing so.
Why? they just have set powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/24 23:17:34
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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I'm aware of that, in many cases they are the 'same' set powers as the inquisitors have. (who are notable as one of the two options which 'can' switch them out).
I'm guessing they weren't exactly sure what effect potentially having 100% of the army having access to the various disciplines would have balance-wise, but I personally feel they dropped the ball a bit when dealing with grey knight psykers in this way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 13:59:28
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Neorealist wrote:I'm aware of that, in many cases they are the 'same' set powers as the inquisitors have. (who are notable as one of the two options which 'can' switch them out).
I'm guessing they weren't exactly sure what effect potentially having 100% of the army having access to the various disciplines would have balance-wise, but I personally feel they dropped the ball a bit when dealing with grey knight psykers in this way.
I disagree. I always felt that GKs weren't really full fledged psykers, more like people with a little bit of talent that have been mercilessly drilled in one aspect of the art. It fits quite well to me, that only psykers trained as such outside of Titan would have had access to learning on the full aspect of what Psykers can do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 18:37:05
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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I'd agree with your interpretation for those models with the 'brotherhood of psykers' rule, but I'd consider any model with a mastery of 1 or higher in it's own right to be a 'fully fledged psyker'.
They certainly get hosed like one by runes of warding, shadow in the warp, and similar rules anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 18:51:10
Subject: Draigo Question
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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The reasoning to an extent is game balance.
So think about the following
Thawn is ML 2 (so he could trade out for 2 divination powers)
Grand Masters and Brotherhood Champions can be ML 2 (so why take a Libby?) so with the GM you can get better CC, Grand Strategy, crazy grenades, psycannons etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 19:19:53
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Librarians can be mastery 3. (and have a psychic hood, in case that matters)
While we are on the topic of Grey Knight Psykers, any theories about why there isn't a unique librarian in the codex? It'd be nice to see what they'd actually do to make such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 20:49:04
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The new codex already brought many special characters, there used to be only 2.
So maybe there will be a libby special character in the next codex, it would certainly be nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 21:46:03
Subject: Re:Draigo Question
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Neorealist wrote:Librarians can be mastery 3. (and have a psychic hood, in case that matters)
While we are on the topic of Grey Knight Psykers, any theories about why there isn't a unique librarian in the codex? It'd be nice to see what they'd actually do to make such.
Psychic hood really makes little difference ( gk deny on a 5+ already). And I don't see anyone running ml 3 librarians now, so if you made it so that any other he could run divination, I can guarantee you would never see them, level 2 + grenades + grand strategy is far better than a level 3 Libby.
Also if you could run Draigo with divination and anotHer psyker paladins would be far too good.
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