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I suppose they could wait until 12:01 and say "technically it's before 11" if they really wanted to.

Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

 Breotan wrote:

...six misdemeanor violations of a local law that prohibits the possession or sale of air rifles and replica firearms...

This is what happens when you give into the gun control crowd - TOYS become illegal.

Masterpiece Megatron agrees with you.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

A kid was arrested in school for wearing an NRA shirt. An active duty Soldier was arrested for LEGALLY open carrying in the wild while helping his son earn a hiking merit badge. Now this kid was arrested for having airsoft guns.

And you ask why it's facepalm worthy?

He was arrested for violating a law about modifying airsoft guns on university property.

You can disagree about whether such a law is needed, but you can't disagree that he was arrested without cause.

 Seaward wrote:

 Hordini wrote:
You're not allowed to own an air rifle in New York City?

You're not even allowed to think "air rifle" in New York City.

Water guns are a misdemeanor. If you reload them with a two liter cup that counts as aggravated circumstances and bumps it to a felony.

 purplefood wrote:
I can kind of understand not allowing an air rifle in the dorms of a college but no girls after 11 and no booze?
That's against the Geneva convention or something...

College...

Also, heh. Yeah, right.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I never heard of anyone calling an airsoft toy a "weapon" either.

You mean except the ATF who seized that airsoft shipment, claiming that they could easily be converted into actual firearms?

Er what? I must see this article and make fun it. Because those things are plastic and can't actually be converted into real weapons. Idiots I tell you IDIOTS!

xraytango wrote:
NYC is pretty much, "no guns, ever.".

Legally, yes. In truth, NOPE.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I never heard of anyone calling an airsoft toy a "weapon" either.

You mean except the ATF who seized that airsoft shipment, claiming that they could easily be converted into actual firearms?

Er what? I must see this article and make fun it. Because those things are plastic and can't actually be converted into real weapons. Idiots I tell you IDIOTS!

Not the most impartial news source, but I didn't feel like digging to hard to find a more reputable one right now.

http://www.examiner.com/article/why-is-atf-seizing-toy-guns

 djones520 wrote:
Not the most impartial news source, but I didn't feel like digging to hard to find a more reputable one right now.

http://www.examiner.com/article/why-is-atf-seizing-toy-guns

Good read, thank you. Nice to see the video of the incident in the article too

 Kilkrazy wrote:
He was arrested for violating a law about modifying airsoft guns on university property.

You can disagree about whether such a law is needed, but you can't disagree that he was arrested without cause.

This.

Yes, the law may be stupid.

It's also stupid to bring things that look like assault rifles into a school dorm.

500 a pop...must have to be selling them in TX. Still though...Maintenance guy probaly got a quick look...freaked and informed the cops...still the college student should have been aware of NY laws concerning airsoft replica's looking like the real things. I thought that was a federal law begining whhat..2000....when it involve the laser tag system for kids?

As for converting them to fire a 5.56mm.....no...just no way....I've seen upper receiver explode...never a lower...craziest thing I ever came close to was heating the barrel of a M249 ill it sag an inch while firing. There was a reason why we did it. Our first deployment and one of our platoon was tagged convoy protection...before MRAP and MATV and all the neat stuff

 Jihadin wrote:
...before MRAP and MATV and all the neat stuff

Were you there at the beginning? Cause we were rolling around Baghdad in '03 with two improvised gun trucks and hillbilly armor. And by improvised I mean sandbags and a spot welded .249 mount up top, with like a 90 degree forward facing fire arc. Lost.

Now those were the days.

BIAP

 djones520 wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

A kid was arrested in school for wearing an NRA shirt. An active duty Soldier was arrested for LEGALLY open carrying in the wild while helping his son earn a hiking merit badge. Now this kid was arrested for having airsoft guns.

And you ask why it's facepalm worthy?

And then we have the major issue that in England legal gun owners are never the actual killers. Its the thugs whom get hold of illegal military hardware whom do the actual gun crimes. Our goverment is just so health and safety obsessed owning a gun is virtualy impossible legally. And we can be arrested by the police for carrying those bright neon orange slide to cock one shot airsoft springy pistols. Seriously.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

A kid was arrested in school for wearing an NRA shirt. An active duty Soldier was arrested for LEGALLY open carrying in the wild while helping his son earn a hiking merit badge. Now this kid was arrested for having airsoft guns.

And you ask why it's facepalm worthy?

And then we have the major issue that in England legal gun owners are never the actual killers. Its the thugs whom get hold of illegal military hardware whom do the actual gun crimes. Our goverment is just so health and safety obsessed owning a gun is virtualy impossible legally. And we can be arrested by the police for carrying those bright neon orange slide to cock one shot airsoft springy pistols. Seriously.

Is that really what it's about? It's not that the government is health and safety obsessed. It's that guns are not a part of our culture like they are in other countries. The gun violence in the UK is relatively non-existent (Less than 100 per year) and trending downwards. If you legalised guns to the extent they have in America I doubt you would see a further decrease in gun related violence. To say it's due to a health and safety culture is simply ignorant...

Why is your avatar a pair of sandals and a towel?

 Cheesecat wrote:
Why is your avatar a pair of sandals and a towel?

Because he's a flip flopping diamond, fairly self-explanatory.

Sorry can someone just explain this to me. Why was this guy arrested by the police? I understand a university might have a policy against BB guns but that’s an internal matter that shouldn’t have anything to do with the police.

How can possession of a BB gun be legal for the general population but illegal for a student? Surely a can possession of a BB gun is either against the law or it isn’t?

 LuciusAR wrote:
Sorry can someone just explain this to me. Why was this guy arrested by the police? I understand a university might have a policy against BB guns but that’s an internal matter that shouldn’t have anything to do with the police.

How can possession of a BB gun be legal for the general population but illegal for a student? Surely a can possession of a BB gun is either against the law or it isn’t?

It's New York... that's all the explanation you need.

Apparently though, to possess one in New York City, you need a license.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

A kid was arrested in school for wearing an NRA shirt. An active duty Soldier was arrested for LEGALLY open carrying in the wild while helping his son earn a hiking merit badge. Now this kid was arrested for having airsoft guns.

And you ask why it's facepalm worthy?

And then we have the major issue that in England legal gun owners are never the actual killers. Its the thugs whom get hold of illegal military hardware whom do the actual gun crimes. Our goverment is just so health and safety obsessed owning a gun is virtualy impossible legally. And we can be arrested by the police for carrying those bright neon orange slide to cock one shot airsoft springy pistols. Seriously.

Thats not actualy true. Most of the gun crime in the UK is commited using illigaly heald firearms. However the major casses that effect legal gun ownership, Raoul Moat, Dunblain, are with legaly heald firearms. Guns used in street crime do not normaly affect the legal ownership of firearms in the UK. Noone has suggested that ownership of shotguns should be restricted due to drug gangs.

And yes, you can be arrested for carrying a bright orange airsoft pistol, if you are dumb enough to wave it around in public and act in a way that makes people think it is a gun. You can also be arrested for carrying a length of 2 by 4 or a base ball bat. You will not be arrested for having an airsoft gun in a bag or in your car.

 LuciusAR wrote:
Sorry can someone just explain this to me. Why was this guy arrested by the police? I understand a university might have a policy against BB guns but that’s an internal matter that shouldn’t have anything to do with the police.

How can possession of a BB gun be legal for the general population but illegal for a student? Surely a can possession of a BB gun is either against the law or it isn’t?

I think even a bb gun is illegal in Bloombergistan.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Now even america is gaining Englands "gun phobia"

Why's that face palm worthy? England has some of the lowest gun related deaths in the world.

A kid was arrested in school for wearing an NRA shirt. An active duty Soldier was arrested for LEGALLY open carrying in the wild while helping his son earn a hiking merit badge. Now this kid was arrested for having airsoft guns.

And you ask why it's facepalm worthy?

And then we have the major issue that in England legal gun owners are never the actual killers. Its the thugs whom get hold of illegal military hardware whom do the actual gun crimes. Our goverment is just so health and safety obsessed owning a gun is virtualy impossible legally. And we can be arrested by the police for carrying those bright neon orange slide to cock one shot airsoft springy pistols. Seriously.

All three gun massacres in recent times were done by people who held their firearms legally, though to be fair, the Dunblane guy had been recommended to lose his licence but the police had failed to take action. There are many other gun killings each year, of course, about 40 to 90 a year over the past 10 years. Most of these are done with illegally held weapons.

It is actually pretty easy to get a gun licence, for a shotgun or bolt action rifle for general target or game shooting. You need to satisfy a number of conditions. There are several million legally held weapons in civilian hands in the UK.

I surrender.

I don't understand why the kid had to be arrested. So he had a air-soft gun when he wasn't supposed to. So you confiscate it and give him a warning. Did he really need to be draged out of the building in cuffs in front of all his classmates?

yesh, dont be suprised if more of this BS happens,

the canadian anti-gun lobby got fed up with all the grassroots people in canuckistan telling them were to put it,

they forced through registration and licensing laws in the aftermath of tragedies as well, now over 10 years later we have finally started to undo some of it.

expect BS like registration, licensing, and out right bans,

they did that here, 30 years ago you could buy full auto with no real problem, and we were fine.

now you need special licenses for any gun, even specialler ones for things like pistols/ar-15's

they have banned more and more guns every year, and confiscated them using the registration system (which was sold as a "safty" tool, which, when we dismantled it last year, was proven to have saved no one, phad been invloved in targeted gun thefts, and cost over 2 billion)

last year they banned some .22lr rifles here because they had a vauge visual appearance to the AK-47 (no similar working parts)

this is of course in addition to mags that hold more then 5 rnds being banned, any pistol shorter then 4.5"barrel, and that we cannot take most guns into the bush, handguns are range only, even if you buy a handgun specifically designed for hunting, you cannot hunt with it anymore.

for the love of god, dont let what happened here happen to the US,

now to own a gun, you give up your rights, cops and goverment officials now can search your house whenever they want, with out a warrant here, and you could have it taken away, at any time, with no compensation, if someone decides it looks particularly scary.

the anti gun lobbiests have also been harrasing ranges, getting them shut down, one range was literally burnt to the ground under suspicious pretense.

seriously, do not give up, do not let the US go the way of austrailia or the UK,

 wowsmash wrote:
I don't understand why the kid had to be arrested. So he had a air-soft gun when he wasn't supposed to. So you confiscate it and give him a warning. Did he really need to be draged out of the building in cuffs in front of all his classmates?

The US cops don't tend to take quite such a low key attitude, probably because so many people are armed.

Not not a gun though. It's a toy. More than likely just a way for him to make extra cash on the side by building custom air soft gun and selling them for spending cash. It's an over reaction that leaves this kid with a record for the rest of his life. Yes the kid broke a rule but it didn't need to be escalated that far.