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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 15:57:37
Subject: Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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In a recent game this came up, I had a Tervigon with iron arm cast on it (rolled, got +1 str) and I assaulted a squad of Leman Russ tanks. Does hammer of wrath hit at strength 5, or 6. The people in my play group said str 5 because they claimed Iron Arm is a modifier, but on the rule book page about modifiers it said wargear and special rules. So, does Iron arm count as a modifier? or is it like putting a Wolf lord on a thunderwolf mount whre he just becomes S5 T5. I know this may appear to be a pretty noobish simple questio, but I felt like I should ask. Thanks in advance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 16:02:39
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hammer of Wrath uses the S value in the stat line in all but one case (Baron Sathonyx). This has been ruled upon in the Eratta/FAQ.
Tervigon's Hammer of Wrath is always S5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 16:04:24
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Lurking Gaunt
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DarknessEternal wrote:Hammer of Wrath uses the S value in the stat line in all but one case (Baron Sathonyx). This has been ruled upon in the Eratta/ FAQ.
Tervigon's Hammer of Wrath is always S5.
Agreed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 17:25:07
Subject: Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Dakka Veteran
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I thought a wolf lord gets + 1 str and toughness. The bracketed toughness would be 5 from that point on but the str is a + 1 so with a fist for example he would go str8 +1. This because its ought as war gear and the bonus is added in ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 17:28:58
Subject: Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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You'd count as the modified strength. It's not a piece of gear increasing your strength, or some bonus from charging that modifies your attacks. It's modifying your base stat. A power fist, for example, won't modify your strength when taking a strength test. However, Iron Arm will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 17:48:38
Subject: Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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The Hive Mind
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Waaaghpower wrote:You'd count as the modified strength. It's not a piece of gear increasing your strength, or some bonus from charging that modifies your attacks. It's modifying your base stat. A power fist, for example, won't modify your strength when taking a strength test. However, Iron Arm will.
You should re-read Hammer of Wrath.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 11:35:41
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Power fists DO modify your Strength for the purposes of your attacks. Likewise Iron Arm modifies your Strength for the duration of the power.
Floating modifiers in brackets have been done away with as can also be seen in Toughness on bikes, it's all base modifiers now.
The only possible counter to this is that psychic powers aren't mentioned for Hammer of Wrath. Of course, neither are Chaos Boobs. RAI could easily go either way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 12:03:22
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Super Ready wrote:
The only possible counter to this is that psychic powers aren't mentioned for Hammer of Wrath. Of course, neither are Chaos Boobs. RAI could easily go either way.
Hehe. Chaos Boobs.
Also HoW uses unmodified Strength value doesnt it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 13:15:13
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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The Hive Mind
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Super Ready wrote:The only possible counter to this is that psychic powers aren't mentioned for Hammer of Wrath. Of course, neither are Chaos Boobs. RAI could easily go either way.
Not that they need to be since it does say "unmodified" which is pretty unambiguous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 13:22:44
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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'...it makes one additional attack that hits automatically, and is resolved at the models unmodified strength with an AP of -.'
Hammer of Wrath BRB pg 37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 13:53:53
Subject: Re:Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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So it does...that totally settles it then.
Also. Boobs?! At least my phone has a sense of humour. That'stoo good to go back and correct!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 14:25:56
Subject: Iron Arm and Hammer of Wrath
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Emboldened Warlock
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This question is easily answered by reading the hammer of wrath rules.
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