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 Dozer Blades wrote:
Some armies like Tau and eldar scale down really well at lower points. It is amazing how much Tau can get for even just 1000 points.

They also scale up very well - it's not like Tau or Eldar run out of super efficient optimal choices to spend their points on at higher points levels, which some other books do. What doesn't scale down as well are the deathstar armies, which in my mind is a good thing - they still work, but suddenly they have much less of a supporting army, whereas at 1850 or 2000, they have 850-1000 points to spend on the rest of their force instead of just 500 (meaning their scoring or support is weak).

At 1500:
-Deathstars get a tad weaker but still function (jet seer council, screamerstar, ovesa star)
-Some other codices (DE for instance) don't have to stretch and spend their points on stuff that isn't optimal anymore
-All the other armies remain roughly unchanged, they just scale down.

Seems pretty sweet to me

Hey everyone, coming up on the 100 tickets left mark for 40K!

Don't wait to get those tickets! It looks like we will almost certainly sell out well in advance of the event!

Also, it looks like we are 95% likely to be a Warmachine weekend qualifier! That is in the works as we speak, so get pumped!

Reese wants to you to book your room through Bally's.

The room code should be on the first post, but since Reese is off eating fried scorpions in China here it is:

Bally's Hotel Las Vegas
Room Code: SBFLG4

http://www.ballyslasvegas.com/

At no point does it give you the option to give the code.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
At no point does it give you the option to give the code.

There is a place to put in a promo code, but it is saying that it is invalid.

I also like how there is no event info in the first post.

Yeah, Im going to bok through calling, it isnt even accepting my Credit Card.

Here is the direct link to the LVO registration on Bally's: https://aws.passkey.com/g/20074284

It doesnt give options for single rooms. And i know a few want that.

Reece should be able to get the hotel to put people on his minimums regardless of whether they stay in the block (at NOVA, we are able to do this ... I can't imagine Hyatt of all hotel chains has a unique policy). It's a hassle, but that's the nature of it anyway. Every hotel will do its best to hit you for under-filling the room block.

Our first year having a minimum block (So, our first year at the Hyatt), we had to hit 384 roomnights. For every roomnight under that, we'd have to pay roughly $75. Pretty dramatic. We run a hotel raffle where anyone who stays at the hotel gets tickets for each night in a $1,000/$250/$250/$250/$250 cash prize draw that's co-funded by sponsors. Because of this, we independently track who stays at the hotel in order to make sure things are above-board; also because of this, we were able to verify their numbers claiming we had only 350 were BS, thus saving the con a couple thousand dollars in the net.

As relationships improve and they realize you are serious [and also aren't an admin for a large company who will just shrug and write a check for the "Extras"], things get better. Reece, again, should be able to manage his relationship with the hotel in such a way that he gets credit for all the nights.

THAT ALL SAID, unless Reece himself comes on and says that's the case, I would add a petition that people at least TRY to use the room block for now and let him work with the hotel on issues like what Blackmoor's posting. I'm not an official voice at all, just a supportive fellow TO ... staying in the hotel the con is in is CRITICAL, b/c the event space is only affordable (even remotely) if you contract room nights. If you stay in nearby hotels, and Reece ends up running it really close, you're going to see his soul patch turn grey in a hurry.

 Blackmoor wrote:
Here is the problem often with hotels…

They have a rate that they give the tournament that is discounted off of their regular rate. The problem is that their regular rate (with and without promotions) goes up and down depending on their occupancy.

The BAO rate is $139.00 a night if you choose to book that way, but right now they have promotion for 25% off. That means that I can book the rooms for only $109.00 a night on Fri and Sat ($60.00 savings) and Sunday night they still want to charge me $139.00 for the BAO when it is only $44.00 otherwise. I really want to help Reese out, but I do not want to pay nearly an extra $100.00 for one night to do it.

I hope that Reese will talk to the hotel and see what he can do about the prices being out of whack.

3 times I have checked the price for the same room, and the price fluctuates each time.

I understand the relationship with tournaments and hotels that a lot of people do not understand. Most tournaments have goals that they have to hit to get deeply discounted event space. That is why the TOs want everyone to books using their code (and the reason why I posted the code above for Reese).

Everyone should always try to stay at the hotel if at all possible because not only is it very, very convenient (going up to your rooms to rest, or grab something between rounds, and just rolling out of bed and going down to the event are all a huge bonus), and you are doing right by the TO help them lower their costs. So if it is just a matter of a few dollars then you always want to stay where the event is being held.

Yeah, my mother who is letting me use her credit card(I dont have one as of yet) Was utterly surprised when I said that they needed a deposit. That better go towards the damn room IMO

Im a bus driver in las vegas. You can get around the entire las vegas area that has any interest in a bus. Dont buy a bus pass on a strip bus, it costs more, buy it on a residential route. If you fly in to vegas, take the 109 maryland parkway south bus from the airport to the bus terminal, then take the strip and downtown express to ballys.
If you are coming from los angelas , look up the megabus! Ive heard of round trip tickets from LA to vegas for $11! You cant beat that price unless you stowaway in an rv like rogue in wolverines vehicle in the first xmen movie.

Im a las vegas native, pm me with any questions you may have

Saying so goes against my nature, but if we want events like this to take off and keep, we're gonna have to suck up the price. It will get better in the future.

Book online here: https://aws.passkey.com/g/20074284

Book over the phone with our code SBLFG4 here: 1-800-358-8777

Hey guys, sorry I wasn't able to jump in here sooner as I am in China, as Blackmoor pointed out. Not fried Scorpions eaten yet, but I did have Fried Pork intestines and stomach with hot peppers last night along with fried fish heads. That was interesting to say the least!

As for the room, as others pointed out (and thanks for jumping in their, guys) we have to fill a certain number of room nights, for every night we don't fill, we have to pay for the room completely, It's brutal.

The rate we locked in was cheaper than the rate at the time the contract was drawn. As you all have noticed, the rates fluctuate constantly based on occupancy, time of the year, holidays, etc. They are always in flux.

Can you hunt around for a cheaper rate or stay at another hotel and save some money? Sure. But if you make the choice to do that, you are literally taking money our of Frontline Gaming's pockets and choosing to make this event less successful.

We 100% understand that you all want to save money, that is normal and nothing to be ashamed of. However, with events like these that run on narrow (if any) profits, we can't afford to take hits on the rooms. If you like these types of events, if you want to see them in the future, you need to contribute. We don't make any money on the rooms, so there is no incentive for us to have you all stay there other than it stops us form being hit with a bill.

This first year we were more conservative with our numbers on rooms we committed to booking. Unlike other events, such as Adepticon for example, where you typically don't have any real options for competing hotel, Vegas is overflowing with them. We didn't want to over-commit and be left with a $10,000+ bill. Going forward, so long as we exceed our numbers, we can commit to more room nights, get better rates on the rooms and halls, which means more and better prizes, bigger venue space, etc. But this year, we tried to reduce the risk a bit as I am sure you all can understand.

The other thing to remember is that this is Vegas and they really don't need our business like some hotels in less popular vacation spots do. I negotiated pretty hard and a lot of the hotels weren't having it, haha.

So, long story short, please choose to use our code and stay at Ballys to help support the long term of health of the event and in years to come we will be sure to negotiate better deals and have a cooler event!

I will, once I get around to it, Something I cant do on the internet is hard.

Please don't tell me that making a phone call is too hard! haha, that takes gamer laziness to deff con 4!!

Reecius,

Looking through the rules I wanted to clarify the No FW list rule. Does this include FW SM Chapters Tactics that use the SM:Codex?

Thanks

While everyone is hashing and discussing room rates (important), game times and points levels (yawn) something *really* important has not come up yet:

Handicapping the Beer Hammer event by weight.

Reece, if you remember me, I'm reasonably weighted for a famine victim. I'd go into racial demographics of SouthEast asian-raised women, and how I compare in size to them, but let's keep things politically correct and let's leave those women feeling good about their sizes ... compared to me.

You have no idea how hard it is to find 29 inch waist Levi's.

What I'm after is a rating on the BeerHammer event, you know, hanicapping for weight. *If* I weighed 200 pounds I could keep up with average guys, but since I clock in around a 12 year old's mass, well, I was wondering if this is an item that you could give higher priority for ironing out. Maybe us scrawny guys could have a 50% to 70% skew on the amount of cans on the table ?

I could not compete with (drink as much) Copper Waddle, big strapping guy that he is. And there's the other demographic of gaming to be considered ... the, uh, say, *linemen* of gamers? Scale tilters in the double century range? Triple Century? What about us guys near the 100 year mark? C'mon!


I mean, really, the Tau XV 107 R'Varna Battlesuit ? Like *that's* important ...

Let's keep priorities straight, -im kay?

 thejughead wrote:
Reecius,

Looking through the rules I wanted to clarify the No FW list rule. Does this include FW SM Chapters Tactics that use the SM:Codex?

Thanks

The CTs and SCs are allowed. We've always used them and they are super fun! Feel free to use them, just no army lists.

@BrotherKerose

hahaha, no one can drink with Copper Waddle, the man's got a hollow leg!

But yeah, the beerhammer event is about fun and getting gak faced while playing 40K so, I am sure you can accomplish both, even with a diminutive stature

YAY, All fear My Space Sharks!!!!!!

Brothererekose wrote:

I could not compete with (drink as much) Copper Waddle, big strapping guy that he is. And there's the other demographic of gaming to be considered ... the, uh, say, *linemen* of gamers? Scale tilters in the double century range? Triple Century? What about us guys near the 100 year mark? C'mon!

 Reecius wrote:

@BrotherKerose

hahaha, no one can drink with Copper Waddle, the man's got a hollow leg!

I've had enough of this debauchery.... my name has been misspelled for long enough!

Copper = A semi-precious metal
Waddle = The way ducks move

I will smite both of you and drink you under the table at the same time.

Cheers!

Copper Waddle, you may be able to out debauch the average bear, but I have a liver made of granite. As Toby Keith said, I may not be as good as a I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was! You'd be in better shape the next day, but that night I would bury you, son! hahaha

And don't forget my magic hat, you can't out-game the silver fox!


@Thread

In other news, ticket sales have picked up big time this month and 40K is looking to sell out for sure, Fantasy is approaching 50% full and Warmahordes really picked up steam, our Warmahordes TO is thinking we may hit 80 players!

Snagged my 40k ticket just now! I can drink heavily throughout the holidays all in the name of "tournament prep"!

I "bulked up" just for Beerhammer, so I say that being in the welterweight class is just not gaming the meta correctly.

Can't wait to see everyone there! I have been working on my drinking skills here in China, along with my "eating really weird gak" skills, which I do not know if that will be useful back in the states.

I ate chicken feet today! haha

How full is 40K?

I forgot how did you guys rule, Can an Apothecary take gear? Like a Grav Gun