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How comes the Titans ain't stumbling around? I mean have you see them, they reminds me of the rather stupid robot in the Power Rangers. Do people think they would trip a lot? I mean like Titan on a stroll, and a three story house with white picket fence, and the Titan stumbling over the house?

 Beaviz81 wrote:
How comes the Titans ain't stumbling around? I mean have you see them, they reminds me of the rather stupid robot in the Power Rangers. Do people think they would trip a lot? I mean like Titan on a stroll, and a three story house with white picket fence, and the Titan stumbling over the house?

Given that even warhounds weigh 400 tons and their mass goes way up with each size increase (Warlords weigh over 160 kilotons if memory serves) I'd say that in most building vs titan clashes the Titan wins without noticing the building was ever there. Especially since titans seem to have more powerful engines and motors than is strictly needed for something of their size and configuration and have armor that goes from about as thick as a toddler is tall to so thick you could comfortably fit a Sherman tank between the sides of the plates. As for avoiding falling in the first place, I'd say lots of gyroscopic stabilizers and motorsn that make minute corrections constantly to keep it upright like in dynamically unstable aircraft, and they seem like they could use their gun arms to push themselves up if needed, and given that they are machines they can also likely rotate their bodies at all sorts of funky angles.

But it's more funny if they stumble. I want them to stumble and act like stupid robots like 3-CPO.

Well they don't...
I don't know what you expected from this thread...

To have fun? Isn't that why people bother to log on?

I just am curious how they don't collapse under their own weight and doesn't avoid stumbling.

I'd imagine the Rule of Cool is liberally applied when it comes to the functionality of a Titan (and plenty of other stuff).

They probably would be a lot more unstable and less dextrous if they were controlled with analogue controllers or such, but the crew ( called "princeps" or something), are connected to the Titan's machine spirit by a piece of kit called the Mind Impulse Unit. This allows the crew to directly control Titan with their mind.

I've read somewhere that the main pilot will usually undergo a surgery to make control more efficient. This sometimes includes the removal of arms, legs and even eyes to stabilize the connection between man and machine. In other words, minimize the risk of it falling on its huge baroque bum.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
To have fun? Isn't that why people bother to log on?

I just am curious how they don't collapse under their own weight and doesn't avoid stumbling.

Actually being extremely heavyset and weighty is more realistic for a big plodding walker. In order for a Titan to stand it'd have to be made out of very strong materials and quite a lot of them, to be extremely durable as well would require even more such materials and redundant systems and thus even more weight. Then of course there are auxillary systems such as sensors, the engine, motors, weaponry, ammunition, and so on which all require even more material and thus more mass.

Titans can work in real life and the only cheat you'd need would be a metal (titans if I recall are almost entirely metallic in construction) a lot stronger than any we know of at the moment. You don't need to mess with gravity or anything else although it would likely do quite a number on any natural surface it stood on.

Realistically the only titans I think can last in battle are the Orks. The rest seem to have rather spindly elements which would snap after wear and tear. Hehe.

Titans seem like an easily workable idea...
Maybe not particularly good in actual combat but that doesn't mean they are impossible.
Like Kain said, the only thing we'd really need to figure out is metal strong enough to support it and we may have the technology to do that in the coming decades...
As for stumbling...
Well titans are largely controlled through the Mind Impulse Unit which is to say they are controlled directly by the Princeps and not through an interface...
Imperial Titans seem like they'd last fairly well...
Not that many spindly bits either.

Have you looked at a picture of a Titan, most are very vulnerable to groin-attacks, or can easily be hamstrung like this one http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:WarlordTitanicus.jpg#.UX0vusqtVwY

In reality something like a titan would likely be made out of something like Carbon Nanotubes rather than metal. You can do a lot to alter the physical properties of carbon by mucking around with the way they're bonded to each other, while metals as pure elements have a pretty hardset limit in how much you can improve them through things like alloying and as they lack the proper electron structure you can't make all those fancy metamaterials with them. Heck it seems that in the future most everything that needs to be strong will be made of some kind of carbon based metamaterial, because Carbon can do so many ridiculous things that the rest of the periodic table just looks lame in comparison.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Have you looked at a picture of a Titan, most are very vulnerable to groin-attacks, or can easily be hamstrung like this one http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:WarlordTitanicus.jpg#.UX0vusqtVwY

The crotch is supposedly the size of a baneblade or larger on that...
Then there are its void shields.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Have you looked at a picture of a Titan, most are very vulnerable to groin-attacks, or can easily be hamstrung like this one http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:WarlordTitanicus.jpg#.UX0vusqtVwY

I imagine the legs and the groin is probably the more heavily armoured it considering a hit that severed a leg would take it completely out of action...
That said reading Titanicus, there's not a whole lot that really hurts Titans apart from insane massed firepower or other titans...

 purplefood wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Have you looked at a picture of a Titan, most are very vulnerable to groin-attacks, or can easily be hamstrung like this one http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:WarlordTitanicus.jpg#.UX0vusqtVwY

I imagine the legs and the groin is probably the more heavily armoured it considering a hit that severed a leg would take it completely out of action...
That said reading Titanicus, there's not a whole lot that really hurts Titans apart from insane massed firepower or other titans...

And the fact that Titans of Reaver size and above are often deployed inside heavy defences to fire their weapons at targets that are extremely far away. And that their weaponry can vapourise most titan-killers that aren't themselves titans.

Titan firepower ranges from the hundreds of tons of TNT to many megatons worth of it every second. Maybe even gigatons if you cherrypick calculations for the biggest titans. I sincerely doubt any weapon we'd have today would meaningfully damage an Imperator short of repeatedly hitting it with strategic nuclear bombs (assuming it's polite enough to let them all hit the same spot over and over again) over a protracted period of time.

How about wind, that must affect the titans. I mean winds at 3000 meters over sea-level have been known to topple them. The Void-Shields must even work against wind, or else the short-legged Titans wouldn't not only stumble they would topple over due to wind-sheer. That I would actually pay to see, same with Titans and natural disasters.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
How about wind, that must affect the titans. I mean winds at 3000 meters over sea-level have been known to topple them. The Void-Shields must even work against wind, or else the short-legged Titans wouldn't not only stumble they would topple over due to wind-sheer. That I would actually pay to see, same with Titans and natural disasters.

The mass may be able to weight it down.

Yeah it must help alot with that high center of gravity on them along with those thin legs . I can some-what go for purplefood's defense that the legs likely have better armour, and by that better armour have tended to mean heavier IRL. But still it would be kind of funny to see a bunch of Emperor Titans getting toppled by a gust of wind.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Yeah it must help alot with that high center of gravity on them along with those thin legs . I can some-what go for purplefood's defense that the legs likely have better armour, and by that better armour have tended to mean heavier IRL. But still it would be kind of funny to see a bunch of Emperor Titans getting toppled by a gust of wind.

I've just had a thought..
The connection between the titan's pilot and the titan is largely a psychic one. Their mind becomes melded with the machine spirit. They're supposed to be very powerful psykers, maybe they use some of their power to keep the titan standing.

 Selym wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Yeah it must help alot with that high center of gravity on them along with those thin legs . I can some-what go for purplefood's defense that the legs likely have better armour, and by that better armour have tended to mean heavier IRL. But still it would be kind of funny to see a bunch of Emperor Titans getting toppled by a gust of wind.

I've just had a thought..
The connection between the titan's pilot and the titan is largely a psychic one. Their mind becomes melded with the machine spirit. They're supposed to be very powerful psykers, maybe they use some of their power to keep the titan standing.

or maybe they can just feel when it's leaning... I'm not going to make stuff up on how that work, I believe you can do that on your own.

 Lotet wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Yeah it must help alot with that high center of gravity on them along with those thin legs . I can some-what go for purplefood's defense that the legs likely have better armour, and by that better armour have tended to mean heavier IRL. But still it would be kind of funny to see a bunch of Emperor Titans getting toppled by a gust of wind.

I've just had a thought..
The connection between the titan's pilot and the titan is largely a psychic one. Their mind becomes melded with the machine spirit. They're supposed to be very powerful psykers, maybe they use some of their power to keep the titan standing.

or maybe they can just feel when it's leaning... I'm not going to make stuff up on how that work, I believe you can do that on your own.

Machine spirit relays sensory information to the pilot, pilot sends command, servos do the adjusting, titan stops leaning.

Wish I could buy that point Selym, but the Titans with psykers onboard is part of the dreaded PSI-Titans. I guess the willpower of the Princeps and his co-workers will play in somewhat, and the Machine Spirit of the thing will play in as well allowing it to do things it shouldn't be doing like breaking gravity.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Yeah it must help alot with that high center of gravity on them along with those thin legs . I can some-what go for purplefood's defense that the legs likely have better armour, and by that better armour have tended to mean heavier IRL. But still it would be kind of funny to see a bunch of Emperor Titans getting toppled by a gust of wind.

Clearly we deal with a lot of 'becausium' powered systems in sco fi. However manu explanations for shields i have seen is that they are selectively permeable to low energy, low mass material such as air. Kind of in the same way you can tune all sorts of energy fields to selectively target different typea of matter and particles. For example i have done work on selectively tuned alternating magnetic fields to impart energy into only particles of a certain size and material gor usein magnetic fluid hyperthermia.

Hehe so the moment the Titans are off the power they behave like Bambi on ice? Cool I would love to see that.

Aha! The Titans are powered by magnets! Thus they are miracles, and no one can understand how they work. Any scientists who claim to be able to explain are liars, and it's only natural to get annoyed by them.

All you need is a giant banana peel.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
How about wind, that must affect the titans. I mean winds at 3000 meters over sea-level have been known to topple them. The Void-Shields must even work against wind, or else the short-legged Titans wouldn't not only stumble they would topple over due to wind-sheer. That I would actually pay to see, same with Titans and natural disasters.

A warlord is only sixty meters tall and weighs three times more than the biggest incarnations of Godzilla. Unless you''re in the depths of Neptune wind isn't't going to make it budge.

 Mr Nobody wrote:
All you need is a giant banana peel.

Exactly! Off to the land of city block-sized bananas!

...Actually, genetic engineering them might be easier..

Apart from the IOM not knowing how to use genetic engineering anymore...

 Selym wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
All you need is a giant banana peel.

Exactly! Off to the land of city block-sized bananas!

...Actually, genetic engineering them might be easier..

Apart from the IOM not knowing how to use genetic engineering anymore...

If there's one branch of science the Imperium is still good at It's biology.