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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/28 16:18:25
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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I'm thinking of starting Tau, but unsure which race to use as allies when I get to that point level. I want an allie that will make up for the Tau's lack of CC. But would Orcs be best? Or possibly Space wolves? Or een Blood angels? lol. So many choices but which does anyone here think would be best?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/28 16:30:05
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Blood Angels would work well what with death company/assault squads as troops. Have you considered Deathwing detachment with TH/SS? That would mean that they would have to be the primary detachment however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/28 16:31:16
Subject: Re:Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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Deathwing didn't even cross my mind +Face palm+ lol. I'll do some playtesting and see how it goes!
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"Let us lay low the arrogant mongrels of the corpse-emperor, and bestow upon them the ultimate gift from our grand patron Nurgle! UnDeath to all who oppose us!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 07:03:21
Subject: Re:Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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At the moment I'd say either Space Marines or Orks, I'm leaning towards Space Marines due to psychic powers and hammernators, though big squads of shoota boys make great bubble wrapping and you can still use supporting fire when they get charged.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 07:24:19
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Olympia, WA
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My favorite allies are Lysander and 5 Terminators, plus scouts.
Gives Tau serious punch. Riptides are definitely not meant for close combat...nor is anything else Tau have really. So...
Lysander for the win if you NEED an ally. So far I am winning withint any allies in the new codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 08:03:25
Subject: Re:Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Hellion Hitting and Running
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Three allies really stand out in my mind. And it is my personal opinion that tau should take the minimal possible allies as to not water down tau's ability to alpha strike.
Those three allies are:
Necrones- They have two things really going for them, ability to bring a night fight and wraiths. Night fight is huge for tau because it basically denies your opponent a turn of shooting. It is so easy to set up a night fight where your opponent's heavy guns can't hurt you and you pick out what ever worries you the most. Wraiths are just a great unit who can stop assaults or tear apart the enemies flanks.
Eldar- The need for powers has decreased and now with a command and control nod and multi-spectrum suit you can have some of the better divination powers at your fingertips without a farseer. But defense against enemy psychers is a powerful tool and can make a hard match-up like demons seems rather easy. Besides the farseer eldar really don't bring anything amazing to the battle field. Jetbikes are nice for last minute objective grabbing though.
Orks- seems like an odd pair for tau but they are actually pretty good as you can make a cheap mini hoard. They offer very cheap close combat fighters who can use strength of numbers to kill or at least tie down a unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 12:47:25
Subject: Re:Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Oh wow, Eldar and Tau are Battle Brothers... doesn't make much sense but let's run with it. Divination support and OP psychic defence from a Farseer with Runes of Warding, and a min unit of Guardian jetbikes for capturing objectives late game could be pretty good and very cheap, even if Eldar don't have the combat staying power of Hammernators or Ork Boyz.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 12:57:18
Subject: Re:Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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PrinceRaven wrote:Oh wow, Eldar and Tau are Battle Brothers... doesn't make much sense but let's run with it. Divination support and OP psychic defence from a Farseer with Runes of Warding, and a min unit of Guardian jetbikes for capturing objectives late game could be pretty good and very cheap, even if Eldar don't have the combat staying power of Hammernators or Ork Boyz.
Well, the Eldar and Tau are the two factions most likely to listen to reason and join forces, although the Eldar will as always have an ulterior motive but given that the Tau don't represent a threat to their civilization and are quite happy to accept help without too much second guessing the Eldar's motives are almost certainly not hostile to the Tau. For their part the Tau seem to greatly admire the Eldar and are very eager to learn more about them, likely born out of a pipe dream of the Eldar joining the Tau empire.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 13:00:56
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Isnt there that whole possibility that the Eldar created the Ethereals? Maybe i just heard that somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 13:10:33
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Messy0 wrote:Isnt there that whole possibility that the Eldar created the Ethereals? Maybe i just heard that somewhere.
The origin of the Tau empire is very nebulous. Anyone from the Emperor, to Cegorach, to Eldrad, to Trazyn, to the deceiver may be responsible for the arrival of the ethereals. Given that the Eldar, who were created by the old ones to fight he Necrons and later designated by the Old Ones to be the heirs to all they left behind would probably try to throttle any creation of their old enemy in the crib ruling out the Necrons seems reasonable.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 15:37:50
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
Washington, DC area
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Sorry to derail the conversation and make a point re: the original post, but:
I'd hold off on buying any Eldar as the new codex is on the horizon (finally). Currently they make great allies, but will only exist in their current form for another month-and-a-half.
If you want, play test using proxy models.
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An Eldar, bizarrely dressed in a customised suit of power armour and standing on a shield borne by two servants, was carried forth out of the crowd. Raising his Daemon weapon, he shouted three abrupt words:
"Thin! YOUR! PAINTS!"
With that, every member of the warhost screamed out their own battlecry; only a few that I heard were "WOLVES FOR THE WOLF GOD, WOLVES FOR THE WOLF THRONE!", "METAL BAWKSES!", and, strangest of all, "CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!". However, after a few seconds, all these shouts were replaced with a single, simultaneous battlecry:
"DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA! 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO!" Upon shouting this, the entire army charged down the hill, guns blazing." - extract from the report of Colonel Montague, Cadian 12th, on the "Gugalle Incident".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 16:16:41
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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The Lost Autarch wrote:Sorry to derail the conversation and make a point re: the original post, but:
I'd hold off on buying any Eldar as the new codex is on the horizon (finally). Currently they make great allies, but will only exist in their current form for another month-and-a-half.
If you want, play test using proxy models.
You can probably still buy the models that are garaunteed to largely remain legal like Guardians or the aspect warriors. Some minor details about them may change but the overall gist is likely to remain the same, so Dark Reapers will probably still be MEQ killing shooters and Banshees MEQ killing stabbers.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 16:30:28
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
Washington, DC area
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Oh, I don't doubt that the current models will still be legal.
But the new Eldar rules may change some things that could make them less attractive of an ally, hence my "wait to buy."
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"The warhost on the hill was one of the most bizzare sights I had ever seen on a battlefield... Xenos, daemons and humans collected together in units together, gripping dice and paintbrushes; Orks, humans and creatures for which I had no name, clad in ancient armour and clothing; steam-powered walkers with antique-armoured assistants; and many bizarre war-machines, many of which had no purpose that I understood.
An Eldar, bizarrely dressed in a customised suit of power armour and standing on a shield borne by two servants, was carried forth out of the crowd. Raising his Daemon weapon, he shouted three abrupt words:
"Thin! YOUR! PAINTS!"
With that, every member of the warhost screamed out their own battlecry; only a few that I heard were "WOLVES FOR THE WOLF GOD, WOLVES FOR THE WOLF THRONE!", "METAL BAWKSES!", and, strangest of all, "CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!". However, after a few seconds, all these shouts were replaced with a single, simultaneous battlecry:
"DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA! 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO, 'ERE WE GO!" Upon shouting this, the entire army charged down the hill, guns blazing." - extract from the report of Colonel Montague, Cadian 12th, on the "Gugalle Incident".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 16:40:17
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Currently, either eldar for a farseer with runes of warding and guide, who simply twin links a pathfinder unit, or a space marine librarian with null zone in a drop pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 18:00:41
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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The Lost Autarch wrote:Oh, I don't doubt that the current models will still be legal.
But the new Eldar rules may change some things that could make them less attractive of an ally, hence my "wait to buy."
Well, given that the aspect warriors are almost garaunteed to remain largely the same in functionality save for some price point juggling and maybe a new rule here or there I think things like striking scorpions would still be a wise investment to chop up those hordes of poor save gribblies better than the Kroot ever could.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 18:02:08
Subject: Opinion of best allies for Tau?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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IMO best is easily Orks. Fearless bodies is huge, it gives you some counter cc and a nice bubblewrap without LD problems. I love Orks and Tau.
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