You may have heard the rumors ... and now we're excited to announce that Malifaux 2nd Edition (M2E) is coming!

Malifaux 2nd Edition will be pre-released August 15 (during Gen Con 2013) with a general release by October. In the mean time we plan to tease you with new art, new models, new characters, and the ... Public Beta for Malifaux 2E.



Malifaux 2nd edition is coming! If you want to be one of the first to play it and provide input, we'll be having a public Beta for your shuffling pleasure. (More details on the Beta below.)

What are some of the features of 2nd edition to look forward to?

Streamlined, Updated Ruleset.

Clarified rules interactions and Model Actions.

Upgrade Your Models / Customize Your Crew.

That's right, keep your favorite model fresh and competitive for years to come.

New Masters.

From the current Henchmen getting promoted, to fresh faces like Tara, the Herald of Obliteration!

Gremlins a Faction?

You bet!

Easier to Read Card Format.

Every model updated to a new, easier to read format. No more searching through the books. The cards are standard sized as well, making them easy to sleeve for dry erasing.

Story Moves Forward.

Find out what happens to your favorite characters, see the new alliances formed, and discover new Tyrants!

FAQ.

For those of you who never got enough of the rules-love, we'll be moving to an FAQ system updated on a set schedule! No more searching the forums for rulings.

We'll keep you updated with more details over the next few months.

What

Play Malifaux with your friends! See the new rules online as soon as they're available. This will be your chance to give feedback.

Who

Anyone! No previous Malifaux experience required.

When

Starting May 31

How

Watch the new Public Beta section in our forums. Access the rules, ask questions, give feedback, and interact with other Malifaux enthusiasts.
Public Beta Forum

 Lansirill wrote:
You know, when you're only out $30 on the rulebook... it doesn't sting anywhere NEAR as bad when a new edition of the rules is released a year later. I'll have to stick my nose into the public beta, should be fun.

 Lansirill wrote:
You know, when you're only out $30 on the rulebook... it doesn't sting anywhere NEAR as bad when a new edition of the rules is released a year later. I'll have to stick my nose into the public beta, should be fun.

cincydooley wrote:

 Lansirill wrote:
You know, when you're only out $30 on the rulebook... it doesn't sting anywhere NEAR as bad when a new edition of the rules is released a year later. I'll have to stick my nose into the public beta, should be fun.

Sounds like you'll also need new cards.

Hopes for the cards:

1. You can buy them in Faction Packs like they did with WM/H Vol 2
2. They're coated so you can use dry erase pens on the right away.
or
2b. They're a normal size that fit in normal sleeves so I don't have to laminate them all.

 warboss wrote:
When did the first edition come out?

 cincydooley wrote:

 Lansirill wrote:
You know, when you're only out $30 on the rulebook... it doesn't sting anywhere NEAR as bad when a new edition of the rules is released a year later. I'll have to stick my nose into the public beta, should be fun.

Sounds like you'll also need new cards.

Hopes for the cards:

1. You can buy them in Faction Packs like they did with WM/H Vol 2
2. They're coated so you can use dry erase pens on the right away.
or
2b. They're a normal size that fit in normal sleeves so I don't have to laminate them all.

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
UNless I misunderstood, the release said they'd be normal size. However given the info already on them, the large number of special abilities most figures have, and that they are going to include the rules for glossary terms on the cards, everything is going to need multiple cards or they are going to have to strip out some abilities. I'd take mroe clutter over a blander game.

chaos45 wrote:
The game needed a re-balancing...from the get go balance has been a massive issue. My guess is they will use the new edition to try to fix things.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 warboss wrote:
When did the first edition come out?

GenCon ish, 2009

 Alfndrate wrote:

chaos45 wrote:
The game needed a re-balancing...from the get go balance has been a massive issue. My guess is they will use the new edition to try to fix things.

O.o Strange, with the exception of a single master, I didn't notice balance issues. to each their own though And if I get more balance, then that's a good thing of course

decker_cky wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

chaos45 wrote:
The game needed a re-balancing...from the get go balance has been a massive issue. My guess is they will use the new edition to try to fix things.

O.o Strange, with the exception of a single master, I didn't notice balance issues. to each their own though And if I get more balance, then that's a good thing of course

Faction to faction (how the game is balanced), there's overall solid balance. But there's distict tiers of balance, where book 1 stuff is weaker, book 2 stuff is more powerful, and book 3 is once again similar to book 1. Book 2 needed a number of balancing erratas, and book 4 seems to be pretty close to the post-errata power level of book 2. There's exceptions to the rule in all the books, but it's notable how many bad choices there is in book 1 and 3, that essentially are replaced by something better in one of the stronger books.

There's similar issues in a number of the schemes, but not divided by books. Some schemes will always be easy, others very difficult. Tournaments usually disallow duplication of schemes, so where you have both good master specific schemes and faction specific schemes overlapping, it can be a problem. On the other hand, there's a number of useless master specific schemes, or incredibly hard faction specific schemes. Then looking at general schemes, there's a big divide - some schemes can be made impossible for your opponent by sacrificing or killing a friendly model.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I guess I'm saying this as someone that plays Malifaux weekly with a variety of masters from all the books, and who faces a variety of masters. I rarely find myself as "outmatched" with my stuff.

Like I said, to each their own. Some people think it's unbalanced, I (and with my experiences), have found Malifaux to be fairly well balanced.

Edit: Source - I have 1/6th of the posts in the Dakka Malifaux Boards... (I have no life D: )

decker_cky wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I guess I'm saying this as someone that plays Malifaux weekly with a variety of masters from all the books, and who faces a variety of masters. I rarely find myself as "outmatched" with my stuff.

Like I said, to each their own. Some people think it's unbalanced, I (and with my experiences), have found Malifaux to be fairly well balanced.

Edit: Source - I have 1/6th of the posts in the Dakka Malifaux Boards... (I have no life D: )

I haven't played nearly as much as you. I agree that overall, the game is pretty balanced, but you're being wilfully blind if you don't think there's some obvious balance issues in the game.

It's not being willfully blind if I honestly don't see the balance issues, I'm not refusing your idea (thus why I said in my experiences, see it's up there in my quote ), I'm simply saying that in my play experiences that the game doesn't have glaring issues, with the exception of the uphill battle I've had against a Zoraida/Collodi crew (which is what I said in my first post, that with the exception of 1 master).

Put it this way: Do you feel a slate ridge mauler provides real value for the cost compared to a rail golem? Does a sabertooth cerberus really compare with a blessed of december? Is there any reason for anyone to ever take Latigo Pistoleros? Is there a use for a malifaux child? How is the ice golem worth it's cost compared to anything else? Because there's other new models to fill in the holes, it isn't a real issue, but that doesn't change the fact that there's issues with the old rules. Wyrd has gotten better at designing rules in the system since they started, and the comparison shows it.

You make an lot of comparisions, and I've played a lot of Malifaux, I find myself taking an Ice Golem with my Rasputina crew, but that's due to my lack of models for her, my Tina list rarely varies beyond Tina, 2 Silent Ones, 2 Ice Gamins, 1 Golem, 1 Essence of Power, and I've seen people take Slate Ridge Maulers over the Ice Golem, and I've seen both Ice Golems and Blessed of December (granted this was 1 time and it was in the Cake Tournament at AdeptiCon). I know that there was issue with the power levels of the Book 1 Masters and models vs. Book 2, 3, and 4, but I run Book 1 Masters 75% of the time, and I rarely lose (often draw).

Likewise, the balance between hidden and open schemes is skewed heavily towards hidden. Not a game balance issues, since both players can do the same thing, but it is a design balance issue, since there's choices that there's really no reason to take.

On the competitive side of things, you'll see the exact opposite. Most players will take 2 schemes, and announce them both, because schemes are generally easy enough to earn that not announcing them screws you out of 1 to 2 VP. There was actually a decently heated (read: good back and forth) discussion a few months ago about this very topic, and making hidden schemes "worthy" to take.


Again, all of this goes back to personal play experiences. And as I also said in my post, more balance is NEVER a bad thing, I'm just saying that I personally don't experience unbalanced Malifaux play.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I suspect it may be in part at least a way to allow them integrate the upcoming RPG more easily

First edition was obviously made with no thought of the RPG (supposedly due September), 2nd edition has presumably had at least some thought put into how to tie them together more easily

 Alfndrate wrote:
Lalochezia is available for bribery I hear, he takes the world's best spinning chairs in trade for promo art.

Sadly, I cannot afford such a steep price.

 Lalochezia wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
Lalochezia is available for bribery I hear, he takes the world's best spinning chairs in trade for promo art.

Sadly, I cannot afford such a steep price.

Don't believe everything you hear.

I take money, too.