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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Speaking of Miss Terious, is that still available?

She was also an early backer reward in the RPG kickstarter, so there's going to be some more on the market. I'll (eventually) have an extra one.

Since every master is also getting an avatar, maybe we'll get a better looking hungering darkness mini to split off and use as the regular one. I'd hoped for a nightmare edition, but we're getting the new Herald of Obliteration girl's NM version instead. Any idea on what her factions will be?

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Speaking of Miss Terious, is that still available?

She was also an early backer reward in the RPG kickstarter, so there's going to be some more on the market. I'll (eventually) have an extra one.

Since every master is also getting an avatar, maybe we'll get a better looking hungering darkness mini to split off and use as the regular one. I'd hoped for a nightmare edition, but we're getting the new Herald of Obliteration girl's NM version instead. Any idea on what her factions will be?

I believe Tara is an Outcast henchman... Also I'm such a dope! >_< If anyone wants to know a little bit about our future Henchmen... read the Dead of Winter Campaign stories collected here

I can't believe I didn't notice that >_<

Hmm, maybe buying the metal starters for dreamer, colette, and that asian resurrectionist girl whose name I can't remember now was a bad idea.

For those of you that stayed with the Thru The Breach KS: Any progress from them on any front? I know the info trickling out regarding Evil Baby has been pretty nil, so was curious how that one's going.

 cincydooley wrote:
For those of you that stayed with the Thru The Breach KS: Any progress from them on any front? I know the info trickling out regarding Evil Baby has been pretty nil, so was curious how that one's going.

I haven't been following it closely, They've started closed beta testing at least a month ago, and there was a contest for backers to join the Canon Campaign at GenCon, that's about it that I know of. You should have gotten an email several months ago about joining the "Through the Breach" playtest site... I haven't been following Malifaux stuff too closely since they asked for playtesters for Showdown (their new card game) and I couldn't because I work for another game company.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Hmm, maybe buying the metal starters for dreamer, colette, and that asian resurrectionist girl whose name I can't remember now was a bad idea.

Kirai Ankoku.

Haven't had the guts to start painting the boxset, though. Those clothes have me mighty intimidated.

Link to the Public Beta rules!

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?43070-M2E-Playtest-Files-5-31-13

Enjoy! I have!

There seems to be a lot of stuff on page @@...

I imagine the book will be much longer than the 73 pages it's currently at, and with shuffling fluff and last minute changes, it's probably simpler to just leave an easily searchable @@ and update before it 'goes gold' rather than try to guestimate where everything will be.

Also, heads up, apparently trying to print the rules book in its current form is... unwise. I printed off the stat and upgrade cards for all but one of the factions, but think I'd garner some ire at work if I blew through a toner cartridge on the book itself. Especially since there'll presumably be a number of revisions coming out over the next month or two or however long they're pushing the testing until it *has* to be at the printers in order to make Gencon.

I gazed through the stat cards... they are certainly shorter. I focused on 10T during my lunch break, and I felt that there were quite fewer abilities per model, for generally a higher price. Anyone else got that opinion?

Also, I can't field Yamaziko and Ototo in a Misaki Crew anymore?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I gazed through the stat cards... they are certainly shorter. I focused on 10T during my lunch break, and I felt that there were quite fewer abilities per model, for generally a higher price. Anyone else got that opinion?

Also, I can't field Yamaziko and Ototo in a Misaki Crew anymore?

They're upping the price of everything and making 'normal' games a higher SS count.

They're also removing some superfluous abilities while streamlining everything. The reason is that now Masters, Henchmen, and Minions can take special ability cards to expand upon customization. These cards are found in the .pdf as well.

I haven't been able to look through everything, the reason why models cost more is because it looks like the average game size is going up by a few points, but they're also upping some models so you're still going to have close to the same number of models on the board (from what I can tell).

Also the "less" abilties per models is because of the new upgrades system, which gives us ways to "customize" our masters and minions as we see fit. The thing that I bet will happen is that most things will be "usable" but there is eventually going to be "those combos" that everyone will know about and you'll see at tournaments. Haven't gotten a chance to play with those rules yet, it'll be a few weeks before I can

Yes, I just noticed on page @@, I mean 44, they mention that 50 SS is average, and my group was using 30 SS previously.

Oh the possibilities!

From what I heard they increased the costs so that they could better balance the units against each other.

Not that I have it painted, but Kirai doesn't get stat cards for the moment... are there many masters that didn't make the Beta cut?

Lots didn't make the cut (most book 2 masters/henchmen, 2 of the book 4 masters, most book 2/3 minons, avatars). They'll come out in the second wave in September/October, so it'll be a pretty short wait for them to be updated (I think the testing on them starts as soon as the actual book is released so they can be balanced against the finalized models).

I love the idea of McMourning as a Guild master.

Speaking of Book2 Henchmen, and considering the Arcanists won the recent Campaign, is there any news on the Kaeris resculpt, or is that being completely ignored in favor of shoving it in with all the other resculpts in Mv2?

Sooooo. A few things about the beta stuff... Arcanist color is now BLUE?!?!? WTF.

And does anyone know when/if they'll have the casters in Colette's wave out (or if they will?)

Arcanists have always been blue. Their color was originally a darker blue that made telling them apart from the Neverborn Purple a bit difficult at times.

Collette is a Book 2 Master. She will be in Wave 2 along with all the other Book 2/3 stuffs.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Arcanists have always been blue. Their color was originally a darker blue that made telling them apart from the Neverborn Purple a bit difficult at times.

Collette is a Book 2 Master. She will be in Wave 2 along with all the other Book 2/3 stuffs.

Have they? My fate deck looks pretty damn purple, as do all my cards......

Thanks for the Colette info. Excited to see her new art.

It is actually 2 betas. The first covers core rules and a limited amount of models. The 2nd beta will start in the fall and includes the rest of the models.

The Fate Deck you probably have is the Neverborn Fate Deck. The Arcanists are meant to be blue.


The cards themselves look very purple-ish, but they're supposed to be blue.

See Arcanists cards here:
http://www.wyrd-games.net/StatCards/Arcanistsv2.pdf

Neverborn here:
http://www.wyrd-games.net/StatCards/Neverbornv2.pdf

The boxed sets also have an almost-purple shade of blue whereas the Neverborn are strictly purple.



I'm happy Malifaux v2 is making the distinction more pronounced.

Hehe. No, I don't doubt it. I don't want to get in a silly argument, but I swear the cards I have are a violet purple (just looked at em). My never born stuff is definitely more of a pink-magenta.

They did change slighty from really blue to nearly blue! Bit weird but heh ho!

Anyway, a couple of changes I think are worth mentioning.

First up, std game size is as mentioned 50ss. Game length reduced to 5 turns then random.

Soulstones no longer add a card to flips. Rather just a + flip to defence/resist. If you ss a defence flip the attacker also suffers a - flip to their damage flip.

Red Joker on damage adds weak damage rather than the next card.

Most masters have more wounds.

"Pass" is no longer, although i'm led to believe that was scraped in 1.5!


Worth noting, "Bash" is no longer an option! So you'll want to keep anyone without a melee attack out of combat!

On that note, a (2)Charge Action gives you 2 melee attacks!

All Masters have 3 General Actions. Everyone else has 2 unless stated!

So a few changes! Keen to see how it all comes together!

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Also, I can't field Yamaziko and Ototo in a Misaki Crew anymore?

You can put a Master & Henchman in the same crew, based on what everyone in the beta forums is saying.

 Elemental wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Also, I can't field Yamaziko and Ototo in a Misaki Crew anymore?

You can put a Master & Henchman in the same crew, based on what everyone in the beta forums is saying.

And an Enforcer!

Then boost them all up with upgrades! Master has 3, Henchman 2 and Enforcers can have 1!

Can get pretty powerful but all upgrades cost between 1-3 ss!


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Just realised that Yama and Ototo are both Henchies!

Anyone know why the steamborg executioner is now a named character?

 bbb wrote:
Anyone know why the steamborg executioner is now a named character?

Fluff wise they all have names, I think there was one called Hank in the first book. I think that they must keep their real names from before they are "saved/improved" by Ramos!

Cautiously optimistic about a 2nd edition. I picked the game up when it first came out, and loved it, but by the last release i'd had my fill of a game that had become bloated with complexity for its own sake, and too much errata.

A game doesn't need uber complex rules to be interesting and engaging. Here's hoping the new edition follows the KISS model of game design. If the rules are solid, i'll pick this game up again and probably so will my group.

-- Haight

I played a game last night, first ever with Kirai... and I have to say that I am not against having simpler stat cards. I was doing a lot of hmmm and uhhh while trying to keep the pace of the game as fast as possible.

When faced with a 10T crew that had both Ototo and Yamaziko (my friend didn't have his crew), it was solidly in his favour.