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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 02:49:55
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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Here are the new unlocks! The Land Iron Clad:
And the Martian Overseer:
These are available as Add-Ons...though maybe they'll become goal rewards as well if enough people pledge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 03:08:49
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm going to find those toys very hard to resist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 06:14:00
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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Meade wrote:I'm going to find those toys very hard to resist.
Resistance is futile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 12:21:35
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
Melbourne, The great land of Oz
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Large Ironclad, Super Tripod, must have , must visit bank manager to take out second mortgage. lol j/k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 16:22:07
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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@DrunkenBoxer, I'm pretty sure those won't ever be stretch-goal freebies. The campaign has been generous, but that would be an unprecedented degree of generous.
As it stands, on freebies, they're already at an average of about 47% msrp on return... which basically puts them at parity with Deadzone/Mantic. That is really impressive considering that AD is a much smaller company.
That said, they understand the importance of us, their first adopters being champions and stewards of the game, and as such are treating us very well.
IF IF IF, we hit $175k, and then $200k is as impressive with freebies as $150k was (or we hit the plastics upgrades and suddenly get way more for our buying dollar), then this reasonably could end as one of those 60-70% return-on-msrp Kickstarters that become legendary for their value.
Meanwhile, i've desperately got to figure out how to milk my pledge. I'm at $470, which is my two big armies, and the two GIANT add-ons... with no other add-ons. This means none of the extra trenches I wanted, no flame-tank.... and no room for the entire line of upcoming British forces.
That sucks. :-p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 16:55:58
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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@NewTruthNeomaxim - I hear you on the big investment....this is probably the most I've yet to spend on a Kickstarter. And not because I have to...I think there are plenty of people that could be very satisfied at one of the lower pledge levels. It's because I want to. So many cool models and scenery bits coming out!
For those that haven't seen it yet, here's some detail on the Mark IV Steam Tank:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Another surprise, free bonus for Kickstarter backers! This goes along with a "demo" set of rules to try out the basics of the game (and only feature a few units): http://www.aliendungeon.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=547&view=summary&cid=18&catid=3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 18:07:06
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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I own a couple pieces from one of their kits, and it is surprisingly durable/attractive stuff. If anyone has seen the Dropzone Commander Cityscape.... this stuff is actually hardier, nicer material. Looks good and is quite functional.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 18:41:10
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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They've got the license for making terrain for All Quiet, and (fingers crossed) will have a set made up before the Kickstarter ends that can be purchased as an Addon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 23:10:20
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Try it before you buy it!
Hey guys, Alien Dungeon has set up a test run for you to see how the game works-- before you buy! Check out the link below!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1117201778/all-quiet-on-the-martian-front-miniature-tanks-vs/posts/486256
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 23:55:22
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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I'm running a test game tonight, so tomorrow i'll try to post at length with my thoughts.
From reading though, i'm liking blip rules a lot, and really appreciate how different mechanically the two sides already seem to be, even at a glance.
Again though, just from reading, the roll to kill for heavier models (ie damage tables) gives me nightmare memories of WH40k and rolling an obscene number of times to destroy something, in older ed rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 00:27:47
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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Scott Washburn from PaperTerrain has been on the comments section of the Kickstarter, asking for requests for scenery pieces. I've already requested a "Battlefield In A Box"-style kit, so it wouldn't help to also voice your desires for that(or other cardstock terrain pieces).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 07:54:32
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
Melbourne, The great land of Oz
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DrunkenBoxer wrote:Scott Washburn from PaperTerrain has been on the comments section of the Kickstarter, asking for requests for scenery pieces. I've already requested a "Battlefield In A Box"-style kit, so it wouldn't help to also voice your desires for that(or other cardstock terrain pieces).
I think the other big thing we want would scenario centric buildings. Key strategic areas like rail hubs, bridges, certain buildings etc.
I also will look at things like mountain passes as key choke points, but I'm thinking paper-mache for that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:47:49
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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vonhist wrote:I think the other big thing we want would scenario centric buildings. Key strategic areas like rail hubs, bridges, certain buildings etc.
I also will look at things like mountain passes as key choke points, but I'm thinking paper-mache for that.
Yeah, as Scott himself pointed out...remember these are papercraft models, so think of things along those lines. I'd take a look at his site and see the kits he already has to give you a good idea of what's possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 16:22:47
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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I got a good couple games of "Try before you buy" in last night with the wife. I'll report more formally in a couple hours when I have more time. Short version.... some clarifications needed, but over-all it was an incredible good time! This game is going to be AMAZING.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 20:04:15
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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OK, Scott Washburn @paperterrain.com posted an update in comments...the free building will be the only one directly linked to the Kickstarter.
However, he is planning on having several All Quiet On the Martian Front kits available by around August...so plenty of time to get and build them before the game ships in December.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 20:52:54
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Well, time today is more precious than I anticipated, but I would be remiss if I didn't at least briefly discuss my thoughts on All-Quiet's trial game.
It is, without question, a fast, frantic, and kinetic affair. Things like the second move phase are wonderful and add a dynamism I wish I could import into other systems I love. Similarly the way we played assaults (allowing an assault attack on the move, and also an attack during that phase, with reduced retreat except for rough-riders), felt much more meaningful than the almost throw away "charges" of games I love, like say Malifaux, or Warmachine. Both of these elements sing.
The fact that elements such as the blip system exist for humans, makes the game feel diverse, had my wife and I wanting to trade sides after every game, and speaks well to how different future factions could feel. It is as if the core rules are so functionally simple, that adding entire ones to a faction is not only non-intimidating, but welcome.
Further thoughts, which I will elaborate on later, but will be succinct as my time is short...
- I know scenarios are unbalanced by design in the trial, but Martians won decisively, regardless of who played the, in all four games. Rolling on a damage chart, as I feared, meant that some Tripods endured silly amounts of hits, and humans rarely stood a chance. Had the scenario been time constrained it would have felt like a fun chance to hold out nad endure, but as a kill objective, humans weren't winning.
- The rules are obviously early, but a good editor will have a quick time of standardizing language/terms, and picking optimal ones for clarity. This will obviously get a look before publishing, but for now, its a touch rough.
All in all though, we had a BLAST, and began day-dreaming about big games, advanced/full rules, etc... The consensus was... 1. December is FAR too far away. 2. This game, if tended to, and stewarded well could become a MAJOR system in our hobby. Even in cut down form it is just sooooooo good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 04:45:15
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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I'm trying to talk my family into all chipping in on this for a combined Father's Day gift for all the fathers.
My Dad is a big fan of Wells and the War. We got him a copy of Little Wars a few years back which he likes to flip through on occasion still. He's got an assortment of walkers and Martian paraphernalia. He's collected toy soldiers since he was a child himself, and is quite fond of turn of the century armies.
This seems like a no brainer then.
Since we're all cheapskates (and have blown tons on other Kickstarters) what do you think would give him the most bang for his buck?
I'm leaning towards the Battle of Memphis, just because it's got a nice rulebook as well as a fair amount of options for both sides.
Plus it's just a bit over a hundred, which between the other siblings I can probably strongarm them into helping contribute and they won't need to spend too much.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
On the plus side if a pledge manager rolls around I can get whatever I want too...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 12:13:14
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Updated my blog with some demo games I ran last night at my local club. Check it out here.
http://usulshomeworld.blogspot.com/2013/05/at-dawn-falling-star-with-trail-of.html
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The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown...
H. P. Lovecraft
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 13:34:19
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:I'm trying to talk my family into all chipping in on this for a combined Father's Day gift for all the fathers.
My Dad is a big fan of Wells and the War. We got him a copy of Little Wars a few years back which he likes to flip through on occasion still. He's got an assortment of walkers and Martian paraphernalia. He's collected toy soldiers since he was a child himself, and is quite fond of turn of the century armies.
This seems like a no brainer then.
Since we're all cheapskates (and have blown tons on other Kickstarters) what do you think would give him the most bang for his buck?
I'm leaning towards the Battle of Memphis, just because it's got a nice rulebook as well as a fair amount of options for both sides.
Plus it's just a bit over a hundred, which between the other siblings I can probably strongarm them into helping contribute and they won't need to spend too much.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
On the plus side if a pledge manager rolls around I can get whatever I want too...
Taking into account stretch goals as well as future potential, your best bang for the buck is probably full assault. If you check frequently, you may be able to snag an early bird at some point (as I was able to about a week ago). That said, Battle of Memphis is probably the second best option if the extra $100 would be a deal breaker. Something to keep in mind though is your getting about $100+ extra in strech rewards at full assault already vs the lower pledges and it will only continue to accumulate more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 17:38:19
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Mechanized Halqa
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I'd concur with Triple9. Battle of Memphis is a great, balanced starter set...but Full Assault, if you can afford it, not only gets you a great value for the minis that are in the pledge level, but is also the lowest pledge level that gets you the highest tier of goal rewards.
I originally had a Full Assault early bird, but left it to move up to an On The Front early bird when one opened up. Even more expensive, but also even better value.
As with any Kickstarter though, you just need to think about what's going to work best for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 23:28:44
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
Melbourne, The great land of Oz
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Here is a Battle Report from a game using the "Try before you buy scenario"
AAR -
Ran a demo game last night for my D&D Encounters group to see. They're all broke right this second, but they loved the concept. Long story short, humans ended up winning!
Humans deployed sneakily (all behind at least soft cover), with one of the HMG deploying in the middle wooded area... figuring the tripod would most likely come closest. Martian set up about as far away as possible (1-3" from the edge of the table), since their player loved the Focused variant of the Heat Ray.
Turn 1 - Martian tripod moved forward 6" (didn't feel like moving full speed for some reason) and fired upon a blip at nearly full range. That poor scout never had a chance, but his comrades elsewhere were saved a grisly fate by his distraction. The player was annoyed at the fake-out, so he moved the tripod in the second movement to be able to Sweep the Heat Ray.
The human player basically stayed put, moving some blips in the second move phase.
Turn 2 - Human player won initiative, successfully rolled for the Rough Riders, and they were all allowed to move. They fanned out, almost pincer-style to either side of the tripod. The blips moved away a bit in the second phase to counter the Martian move.
Martian player moved between the middle and left woods, toward the side with only one Rough Rider, and did a Heat Ray Sweep on two of the blips (barely got the edge of one of them). One was fake, the other an actual unit. The doughboys were dug-in, and still two of them were vaporized by the Heat Ray. The soldiers valiantly passed their morale check (crit!) however. The tripod then moved in closer to assault next turn.
Turn 3 - The Martian player won initiative, moved toward another blip to reveal another doughboy unit, and decided to sweep them in stead of finishing off the wounded unit. This attack decimated the troops, killing four of five, and sent the remaining solider fleeing.
The human player's Rough Riders were able to close the distance and miraculously ensnared all three of the legs (out of six cables total). Sensing a weakness, the Human player went for broke and revealed nearly all of their units (including the HMG that had been waiting in ambush in the trees) and proceeded to pepper the immobilized tripod. This furious assault from all sides led to the spectacular demise of the tripod, as it fell and exploded upon impact... though sadly taking the Rough Riders and remaining member of the battered doughboy unit with it. One could call it a Pyrrhic victory, as the humans lost four stands, with a fifth wounded.
All in all, very fast game, very fun. I can only imagine the awesomeness of having more rules/options & actual figures to negotiate around the field.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 17:40:21
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Good news for our cousins on the other side of the pond. From AD in the comments section...
International Shipping SOLVED.
Huzzah. It was not an easy task. Official announcement later in the day. Wanted to let people know before bedtime.
No VAT, No Import fees for EU and UK. Details coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:38:54
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Hey all,
We are pleased to announce our All Quiet Kickstarter has reached a partnership with Renedra to handle shipping in the UK an Europe!
This means NO INCREASE in the flat rate shipping. Plus, all UK and EU customers will not have to worry about VAT or Import Duties!
Anyone in the rest of the world will still pay the same Flat Rate shipping, and if your country charges any of the import taxes or duties, it will be up to you (as we have no control over that).
This is great news and can save many of you a great deal! So please consider pledging today!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:46:50
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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JHall wrote:Hey all,
We are pleased to announce our All Quiet Kickstarter has reached a partnership with Renedra...
This is great news and can save many of you a great deal! So please consider pledging today!
It would seem that Alien Dungeon and a certain other gaming company have vastly different understandings of the phrase, "this is great news..."
This great news, I would tend to agree with!
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
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"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:37:20
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Here is the exact text from the update regarding international shipping:
We are very pleased to announce that Renedra, the renowned manufacturer and retailer of plastic miniatures and accessories, has agreed to act as our European Union distributor for the All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter only. We could not be happier with this outcome since Architects of War, our sister company, is the Exclusive North American distributor for Renedra.
What does this mean for you if you live in the UK or EU? There will be no increase in the flat rate shipping charge! You will receive the shipment of your pledge, freebies and any add-on goodies by paying the previously stated flat rate shipping, no additional charges.
So, we have 3 different categories that you can fall into…
**US – Free shipping
**UK and EU – Flat rate shipping stated in the pledge levels or shipping policy for Add-ons. No Vat or other import duties will be charged to you.
**Everybody Else – Flat rate shipping stated in the pledge levels or shipping policy for Add-ons. You will be responsible for any duty or taxes charged at the time of delivery, if applicable.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1117201778/all-quiet-on-the-martian-front-miniature-tanks-vs/posts/489620
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 21:30:16
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Hopefully that, and the Brit-faction will bring in some more UK pledgers. This KS is one that legitimately gets better for us at every tier of goal hit, with nary a mediocre reward in sight. The more people who pledge, the greater the value we all receive.
And i'll say this... I've played, or hosted, in the realm of seven games now... That is more than I play most board-games I buy, in their entire life-time. That should say something.
Even the barebones trial is more fun than some whole revised systems i've toyed with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 23:20:53
Subject: Re:Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
Melbourne, The great land of Oz
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B.E.F. Arrives in New York!
Teddy Roosevelt stood upon the balcony and watched the crowd wave and cheer at what seemed like teaming masses of troops of the B.E.F. as they marched down Broadway. The crowd was interesting in its own right to the careful observer. They just weren’t Americans. This was New York City. The streets were lined with thousands and thousands of immigrants who had come there looking for a brighter future - Italy, Ireland, Greece, Germany, China- in fact , people from all over the globe. It was as if humanity itself was represented. Cheering. Cheering for salvation from the inhuman monsters that had come from another world. Teddy was also waving with the crowd with his signature grin stretching from ear to ear. Those closest to him could tell that grin was just a little more pronounced. “Bully, bully indeed” he repeatedly muttered, from time to time, as a new unit appeared.
While the public, and even most of his cabinet did not know was that this was the most cheerful Teddy had been in many months. The War, in truth, was going badly. True, the army had rallied after its shocking losses and initial defeats. True, the entire country, every man, woman and child was working, always working, night and day to rush materials to the Front. Training centers everywhere were turning every able bodied man in America into soldiers from the age of 16 to 55. So many scientists, inventors, industrialists - all were throwing everything they could at the “Martian” problem. Old political rivalries were even pushed to the side in the great struggle.
All of that, and daily sacrifices from everyone, and yet America was losing. The Canadians’ were losing. Teddy knew it and the generals knew it. Did the Martians? They had stopped at the Mississippi river for the most part and, though new attacks sprung up along the line every week, the Martians weren’t pressing to hard. The great military minds and Teddy had come to one conclusion. The Martians were consolidating and preparing for the Big Push. The final push. Reports from the occupied territories clearly indicated they were very busy. Cylinders were still falling every night.
Despite the relationship that had been deepening between America and the UK after the First Martian War, Teddy’s efforts to get real help in the form of men and materials had been hard. The British were very grateful for all the help America had given them in rebuilding, especially since so little had come from Europe, but England was hard pressed to hold onto their Empire. In India, the Martians were barely being held at bay by the forces of the Common Wealth. Hong Kong had fallen and all of North Africa including the Sudan and Egypt. At home, the British were even more nervous. What if cylinders fell there? What if France or Germany decided to strike while the UK was so hard pressed?
The British did commit to their American allies in the end. The BEF had arrived and, in all its technological wonder, was driving down Broadway. As spectacular as the sight of the new Imperial and Kitchener tanks were, as impressive as the trotting lines of Sikh horseman were, the marvel of the Gyro tanks, the sound of the bagpipes, Teddy couldn’t help but wonder in the end. His trademark grinned faded, if just for a moment. Would it be enough?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 16:37:39
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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http://aliendungeon.blogspot.com/
Here is a better-still, battle-report of more complete rules, using more diverse units, etc...
Sounds amazing! I wish this could generate a little more buzz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 22:52:28
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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What size are those round bases the tripods are on? 40mm?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 23:00:10
Subject: Alien Dungeon - All Quiet on the Martian Front Kickstarter NOW LIVE!
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The Large bases the Tripods are on are custom and will come with the Tripods. They are approximately 75mm round!
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