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You would then have to travel to Texas to be in court to testify, present documentation, and hope that the other party hasn't done something to cause you to have to travel to Texas a second time; file a last second extension, perhaps?

This part you can do over the phone 99% of the time.

I have done so twice; once from VA to AZ and another from NE to AZ.

I do agree it's a lot of work, but there is another thread with a concerted push by members of this community to get their items back. They have found a Detective in the area of the person in that thread and it appears to be moving forward. I'm not saying this will be the case here but, where there's a will, there's a way.

The gaming community is a solid one and the people in it watch each other's back's very well.

RF kind of reminds of the guys that tried to start up that deep discount pre-order thing several months/couple of years ago.

MM and Alph would know who they were..... Gobbo Games or something?

 WarOne wrote:
I would take a step back and say that the bigger thing happening right now is how legitimate Resin Forge is. 2000+ likes on Facebook and a business model that caters to hundreds of customers is no small thing; further, despite who one of the owners is, the entire operation has not collapsed in upon itself yet.

Resin Forge seems to be a self sustaining operation that won't disappear too soon.

I found a place that sells 1k Facebook likes for $109.99 in less than 3 minutes. Just google "purchase Facebook likes"

Likes on Facebook are meaningless.

JWhex wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
I would take a step back and say that the bigger thing happening right now is how legitimate Resin Forge is. 2000+ likes on Facebook and a business model that caters to hundreds of customers is no small thing; further, despite who one of the owners is, the entire operation has not collapsed in upon itself yet.

Resin Forge seems to be a self sustaining operation that won't disappear too soon.

I found a place that sells 1k Facebook likes for $109.99 in less than 3 minutes. Just google "purchase Facebook likes"

Likes on Facebook are meaningless.

Dude... you have $5?

http://fiverr.com/gigs/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=Facebook+likes&x=0&y=0

I found a place that sells 1k Facebook likes for $109.99 in less than 3 minutes. Just google "purchase Facebook likes"

Possible, possible. But very often this fake likes come from Asia or one geographic region, so a quick analysis of the likes reveals it. Here that is not the case.

Look at it:

Stand: 07.05.2013
Land Anteil
Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika 1176
Großbritannien (UK) 707
Kanada 73
Australien 70
Italien 36
Deutschland 32
Frankreich 28
Spanien 24
Schweden 10
Mexiko 9
Niederlande 8
Griechenland 8
Dänemark 7
Polen 5
Brasilien 5
Japan 5
Malaysia 4
Argentinien 4
Neuseeland 4
Ungarn 4
Thailand 4
Indonesien 3
Singapur 3
Belgien 3
Türkei 3
Schweiz 3
Rußland 3
Österreich 2
Puerto Rico 2
Bulgarien 2
Portugal 2
Venezuela 2
Kroatien 1
Guatemala 1
Svalbard und Jan Mayen Islands 1
Kolumbien 1
Vereinigte Arabische Emirate 1
Marokko 1
Costa Rica 1
Serbien 1
Tschechische Republik 1
Panama 1
Rumänien 1
Afghanistan 1
Irland 1

That is entirely feasible without buying likes. Alone in my "friendlist" on Facebook I STILL have 44 people liking the store page

I think I am supposed to ban you now or something lol...

I think I am supposed to ban you now or something lol...

Me? Why?

Your post doesn't blindly condemn ResinForge without regards for the facts. Apparently, according to some, that means you get instabanned from Dakka lol

Your post doesn't blindly condemn ResinForge without regards for the facts. Apparently, according to some, that means you get instabanned from Dakka lol

Well, although a majority of people does regard the Inquisition as an institution that does not ask questions, the truth is more on the opposite side. We ask lots of questions And if somebody comes up and tells us that Daniel Mandelbaum has just turned into a chaos spawn and wreaks havok in downtown Dallas we would still have to try to find out if that was really true.

The blind claims that the Likes here were simply bought do not reflect reality. We were witnessing first hand how Resin Forge got their name and shop spread all through the 40K Facebook groups and communities.

I'm still a little uncomfortable with their fb page being so ready to creep your page, Lex, and not redact my last name in a screenshot where they accuse you of having taken down their "lawyer" page and imply it was some weird ninja hacker move and in fact not just you being a good citizen. :S


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...then again though, considering the brash behaviour they give off I shouldn't be surprised they're a little rough around the edges in this matter.

I'm still a little uncomfortable with their fb page being so ready to creep your page, Lex, and not redact my last name in a screenshot where they accuse you of having taken down their "lawyer" page and imply it was some weird ninja hacker move and in fact not just you being a good citizen. :S

Sorry. I assume this is just part of the terror tactics to intimidate people - as usual. You should actually walk up to FB and tell them that Resin Forge used a screenshot with your name without your consent - that should take care of that quite quick

Hey guys. Been following the thread and would like to toss some thoughts out there. In the past when he was caught by the community was anyone ever able to charge him or make anything stick? Secondly, it does seem odd that he now puts up this kinda've a fight after being outed again. On the surface the answer seems simple. However I think there is something more at work that is forcing his hand to defend and fight this off.

It's easy to get a bunch of legit likes; just publish a contest, offer to give something away free to one of the next 100 likes then run a sock puppet account that "wins". Not saying that's what's been done here.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

I'm still a little uncomfortable with their fb page being so ready to creep your page, Lex, and not redact my last name in a screenshot where they accuse you of having taken down their "lawyer" page and imply it was some weird ninja hacker move and in fact not just you being a good citizen. :S

Sorry. I assume this is just part of the terror tactics to intimidate people - as usual. You should actually walk up to FB and tell them that Resin Forge used a screenshot with your name without your consent - that should take care of that quite quick

They don't have the greatest options for what this is but I've done just that. I was cool with you using my name because we're friends, but when somebody who is out to get you and seemingly everyone around you, I gotta be careful, I'd rather not have their angry guns pointed at me more so than they already are.


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 Bikeninja wrote:
Hey guys. Been following the thread and would like to toss some thoughts out there. In the past when he was caught by the community was anyone ever able to charge him or make anything stick? Secondly, it does seem odd that he now puts up this kinda've a fight after being outed again. On the surface the answer seems simple. However I think there is something more at work that is forcing his hand to defend and fight this off.

You mean like genuine fear of consequences coming his way if the allegations turn out to be true? Perhaps.

 Bikeninja wrote:
Secondly, it does seem odd that he now puts up this kinda've a fight after being outed again. On the surface the answer seems simple. However I think there is something more at work that is forcing his hand to defend and fight this off.

I can tell you why that is. On the first/second cases, he more or less got away with things as RedStarOne, and was eventually revealed as a Mr Matthew Bonder, a complete alias. There was no chance of his proverbial chickens coming home to roost, as nobody knew his actual identity. He lost a few ebay accounts, but there was nothing to tie him personally to any of it.

The next time he came back, he was fronting Three Stage Studios as an indie model company, a member of a high profile blogging group, and another ebay seller. Eventually all three were corroborated by the internet community. Daniel attempted to salvage one of the account by linking it to the name of another identity, 'Susan Beasley'. But the evidence he was using to do so circuitously tied back to him, and in his struggles to try and salvage that account, he gave us the tools to identify him personally.

As soon as we definitively knew who he was, he dropped it and ran. Because he did that so quickly, whilst those intimately involved with the case remembered his actual name, the online community in general did not. The speed at which he disassociated himself and vanished made it difficult to nail him for any of the many frauds he had committed by that stage(I can say that definitively, as I was one of them).

Unfortunately for Daniel, he'd come to rely too much on the money he gets by scamming people, and not learning anything, he launched his resinforge identity even as his last one was collapsing. But the difference this time, is that it is now widely known and disseminated as to exactly who he is. We know who he is, where he lives, his phone number, his immediate family, and so on.

This time, there is no disassociation. We know who he is, and where to find him. Thankfully, we identified him this time before he started scamming people again. The same old problems and excuses had begun to crop up, but like his previous identities, Daniel was trying to build a good reputation before making off with his proverbial bag of swag, so as to guarantee the maximum amount taken.

But now that can't happen. He refunded the people with the original problems straight away to try and save this facade of his. And his reputation is already ruined, because he's been outed.


His problem now is that if he does scam anyone at all, his details are more or less there for anyone to see. His only hope is to try and suppress those details, and come back with a new identity in six months. So he's been doing everything within his power to try and remove anything linking him to this company and his past rep, and failing miserably. He's also given us even more ammunition in the process.

If he hadn't tried to defraud me of my own cash at one point, I'd probably feel sorry for him by this stage. He's just had the better part of six months hard work building up rep again ruined, and he hasn't gotten to run off with anyone's money.

 agnosto wrote:
It's easy to get a bunch of legit likes; just publish a contest, offer to give something away free to one of the next 100 likes then run a sock puppet account that "wins". Not saying that's what's been done here.

Or even just give those prizes as promised. Just because the prizes are real does not mean that that the business need remain legitimate.

*Shrug*

I have never ordered from him, nor am I likely to.

Some of those names... are definitely familiar, though.

The Auld Grump

In regards to testifying in Small Claims Court via telephone.

TalonZahn wrote:This part you can do over the phone 99% of the time.

I have done so twice; once from VA to AZ and another from NE to AZ.

This is a case of check local and state jurisdictions. I have never had to file in Texas and do not know if you can phone testify in Small Claims Court there. Looking over Title 2, Subtitle A, Chapter 28, Subchapter A of the Texas Government Code did me little good as well, because they use the word "appear" repeatedly, and in some states "appear" has been taken to mean "make yourself available to the judge and/or jury to testify, whether that be by Skype, telephone, or actually appearing, and in some cases it means "stand your butt in front of the judge." If someone feels like giving that a better reading...here it is.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/GV/htm/GV.28.htm

If anyone is thinking of filing a small claims case I would call someone with Texas Young Lawyers and ask two questions.

1.) Can I appear over the phone to testify?
2.) Can you be my authorized agent to file the case, and what will it cost?

http://www.texasbar.com/Content/NavigationMenu/ForThePublic/FreeLegalInformation/ConsumerTenantRights/HowToSueinSmallClaimsCourt.pdf

If you can testify over the phone, you will still need an authorized agent in the state of Texas to hand deliver the original complaint to the county courthouse. Remember to include the amount that costs in the damages you are seeking.

Inquisitor S. wrote:I didn't see evidence that likes were bought. Much more probable that he used his "Like" associations and showcasing in big forums (Bolter and Chainsword for example) and that his conversions were featured or liked or re-shared by big names (Aaron Dembski Bowden for example) and smaller pages (Lexicanum and diverse Painting Services for example).

In some ways I feel like a babe in the womb, I had no idea I could just go buy Facebook likes for $5. When I made my original post I used the term "buy" to mean "paid for advertising", and shared a story about the company I work for. For some people that's "buying" likes and for other people that's not, it's just advertising. These silly games we play are popular the wide world over, so building a targeted ad could get you a result like the one you have noticed.

More than 270,000 people have listed the term "Warhammer 40k" in their interests. It's really easy (thanks Facebook!) to build an ad that only those people would see, and because the game is played world wide get a "Like" list similar to the one posted earlier. Is that buying likes? Is that just smartly advertising your business? To me, if the new "Like" didn't come from an organic source, you "bought" that like. Organic sources, for this purpose, are friends of people who have already liked your Facebook page, and now those friends are discovering your page because that friend shared something off it. I have no idea which is the case here, some Facebook "like" factory, a well-placed ad, or truly organic growth, because I've never even seen the Facebook page or website this whole thing is discussing.

Kilkrazy wrote:If you did ring them, you should record the conversation to have proof of what is said.

n0t_u wrote:It's probably harder for most to record a call than to keep a letter. Or that's their belief.

MajorTom11 wrote:@KC this was discussed a bit earlier, though this would seem the common sense sensible thing to do, apparently recording conversations in many states, even when informing the 2nd party is considered entrapment or could be. This is why in writing, besides being the most accurate, is also the safest for both parties.

Kilcrazy, yes, yes, yes. We know, or have reasonable enough reason to believe based on phone number, that every call you make to this person is a call to Texas, a single party call recording state. If you don't live in one of the eleven two-party states, record every second of every call. There is nothing illegal about that.

n0t_u, let's fix that problem for everyone. Everyone go out and get one of these things.

http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/call-recording

I also had noticed the use of the word entrapment before, most recently in the above-quoted MajorTom remark. Entrapment can be a VERY scary legal word, but entrapment is a very specific criminal offense that most of you can't be guilty of.

The Laws of These Here United States of America and a Legal Dictionary wrote:
Entrapment - The act of government agents or officials that induces a person to commit a crime he or she is not previously disposed to commit.

The law that people might be concerned with here are laws against eavesdropping, but again, we have a very specific definition.

The Laws of These Here United States of America and a Legal Dictionary wrote:
The crime of eavesdropping means to overhear, record, amplify or transmit any part of the private communication of others without the consent of at least one of the persons engaged in the communication, except as otherwise provided by law.

To take this farther, it is okay for random Dakka owner to call me on my cell phone, ask me to hit the "record" button, and then three way this alleged scammer, or whomever they feel like in any of the 39 "one-party" recording states. The Congressional Research Service did a study released in 2012 on wiretapping and eavesdropping laws, and since your tax dollars paid for it, you can go read it if you'd like.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/98-326.pdf

Of particular interest to anyone concerned about the legality of recording a phone call made to this party is the section on Exemptions: Consent Interceptions.

Aforementioned Congressional Research Service Study; page 13 wrote:
The argument in favor of consent interceptions has always been essentially that a speaker risks the indiscretion of his listeners and holds no superior legal position simply because a listener elects to record or transmit his statements rather than subsequently memorializing or repeating them.

Now, here's where it gets a little tricky. Recording calls for criminal or tortious purposes can be construed as illegal. Tortious can be read as "with the intent to sue". So, your recordings are probably not admissible in court, but this argument frequently holds up nicely.

"Your honor, I recorded the call because the pace of the conversation was too quick to take detailed notes. From the recording of the call I made these notes."

Those notes should be perfectly admissible.

The fun thing here, if you like a little schaudenfreude in your life, is that First Amendment protections removed the old clause "other injurious purposes" from the law, which in effect meant you couldn't record a call if you planned on using the recording to embarrass the other person. That part's not law anymore, so you could just record every call because you feel like posting them to your blog for the world to hear what's going on.

LadyCassandra wrote:I don't have a horse in this race and have been watching because I enjoy reading the legal gymnastic threads and getting a primer on law and copyright information, but I have to post here just to say that you, TheZeppo, are a legend. That's probably the best info post I've seen in one of these topics for a while. Kudos and Exalted. (Good for your first post!)

Hope you keep posting.

Well that just made my morning, the fiancee thinks most of what I say is just drivel! I will keep posting and trying to be useful until my brain melts in the summer sun. Thanks a ton!

One last thing before I try to get out of bed and go to this Magic tournament today. Yak, incorporate, incorporate, incorporate. Use LegalZoom, pay the nominal fee to incorporate, pay the annual fee to incorporate.

Incorporating protects your personal assets. Incorporating provides name protection. Incorporating provides a physical and permanent entity you could sell if one day you didn't want to do this anymore. Incorporating provides tax benefits, such as "This corporation, dakkadakkadakka.dakkadakka, needed a new computer from which to do business this year. If it hadn't needed a new computer, after it paid for site hosting fees and registration fees and so on and what forth, it would have made $1,200 this year on advertising profits that it should have paid taxes on, but bummer, if needed a new computer, that happened to cost $1,199...hopefully we make more profits next year...right?

Forget everything else in that paragraph above though Yak. Incorporate because it's the best thing to do for you and your family. America is the most litigious nation in the world. Americans like to sue other Americans over hot coffee, road rage, a dented fender. Make sure that if you get sued for something that happens here you are the proud owner of a judgement proof corporation with so little in real assets the lawyers will laugh at the guy suing you.

Zeppo

I can tell you why that is. On the first/second cases, he more or less got away with things as RedStarOne, and was eventually revealed as a Mr Matthew Bonder, a complete alias. There was no chance of his proverbial chickens coming home to roost, as nobody knew his actual identity. He lost a few ebay accounts, but there was nothing to tie him personally to any of it.

The next time he came back, he was fronting Three Stage Studios as an indie model company, a member of a high profile blogging group, and another ebay seller. Eventually all three were corroborated by the internet community. Daniel attempted to salvage one of the account by linking it to the name of another identity, 'Susan Beasley'. But the evidence he was using to do so circuitously tied back to him, and in his struggles to try and salvage that account, he gave us the tools to identify him personally.

As soon as we definitively knew who he was, he dropped it and ran. Because he did that so quickly, whilst those intimately involved with the case remembered his actual name, the online community in general did not. The speed at which he disassociated himself and vanished made it difficult to nail him for any of the many frauds he had committed by that stage(I can say that definitively, as I was one of them).

Unfortunately for Daniel, he'd come to rely too much on the money he gets by scamming people, and not learning anything, he launched his resinforge identity even as his last one was collapsing. But the difference this time, is that it is now widely known and disseminated as to exactly who he is. We know who he is, where he lives, his phone number, his immediate family, and so on.

This time, there is no disassociation. We know who he is, and where to find him. Thankfully, we identified him this time before he started scamming people again. The same old problems and excuses had begun to crop up, but like his previous identities, Daniel was trying to build a good reputation before making off with his proverbial bag of swag, so as to guarantee the maximum amount taken.

But now that can't happen. He refunded the people with the original problems straight away to try and save this facade of his. And his reputation is already ruined, because he's been outed.


His problem now is that if he does scam anyone at all, his details are more or less there for anyone to see. His only hope is to try and suppress those details, and come back with a new identity in six months. So he's been doing everything within his power to try and remove anything linking him to this company and his past rep, and failing miserably. He's also given us even more ammunition in the process.

If he hadn't tried to defraud me of my own cash at one point, I'd probably feel sorry for him by this stage. He's just had the better part of six months hard work building up rep again ruined, and he hasn't gotten to run off with anyone's money.

You forget one (in our opinion) important point: quite some of the stuff he "sold" (more like pre-sold) in the last weeks was stuff he (or his co-owners according to him) is / are supposed to bring to the States from the Horus Heresy Weekender which takes place NEXT weekend. Markedly FULGRIM miniatures and such.
That is hardly going to hold up to the most trusting and loyal supporters of Resin Forge if the shop folds and vanishes before that.

Well, now we know he IS daniel and the names of these co owners, can we ask who ever is going to the HH weekender to introduce themselves to the co owners?,

Well, now we know he IS daniel and the names of these co owners, can we ask who ever is going to the HH weekender to introduce themselves to the co owners?

How would you know who they are? BUT even if there would be an answer: what would it show? GW certainly is not going to hand out the names of people to have bought tickets just to have a lynchmob assemble. Nobody ever met Daniel Mandelbaum in person I think. Actually wait, there was this guy in the other thread who did...

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Well, now we know he IS daniel and the names of these co owners, can we ask who ever is going to the HH weekender to introduce themselves to the co owners?

How would you know who they are? BUT even if there would be an answer: what would it show? GW certainly is not going to hand out the names of people to have bought tickets just to have a lynchmob assemble. Nobody ever met Daniel Mandelbaum in person I think. Actually wait, there was this guy in the other thread who did...

How many americans will be there?, a man and woman, cant be that many (no idea on the size of the event tbh)?, politey go up and ask their names and introduce yourself would be my plan. I am not suggesting a lynch mob, just a polite conversation about them and resin forge, after all they havent ripped any body off to our knowledge and if they are there it would be a good indication of whether resin forge is a legit long term business or not.

Let's just assume for a second that indeed there are not a lot of Americans and they were indeed walking around together and they were indeed willing to have a conversation with you. They would have to be quite daft to admit they are Resin Forge co-owners after all that happened. Unless (if they do exist, not like fictive German lawyers, dead or alive mothers, brothers stepfathers or whatever) Daniel is handling all internet stuff completely by himself and they never even access the net to see how their co-owned business is doing. In other words: I'd not bet any money on that happening But then miracles happen, who knows

What's this "German lawyer" business? As far as I'm aware no German lawyers have been any part of this situation.

A few people seem to have confused a purported German security/investigatory company for a law firm, but that's purely an error of reading comprehension on their part.

This thread is serving its purpose but lets not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Putting a name to the infamous face would be, in an ideal setting, great. But if any Dakkanauts are attending the HH weekender then just have fun.

Putting a name to the infamous face would be, in an ideal setting, great. But if any Dakkanauts are attending the HH weekender then just have fun.

This. Don't ruin your time or others by deliberately hunting out RSO. Vigilante justice isn't seen in the kindest light, and it really does become a witch hunt if you try to find him.

So... was there never a wife lost to cancer?

 Mannahnin wrote:
What's this "German lawyer" business? As far as I'm aware no German lawyers have been any part of this situation.

A few people seem to have confused a purported German security/investigatory company for a law firm, but that's purely an error of reading comprehension on their part.

It's actually not. Resin Forge has referred to "BritsCon" as their "lawyers" several times.

What's this "German lawyer" business? As far as I'm aware no German lawyers have been any part of this situation.

A few people seem to have confused a purported German security/investigatory company for a law firm, but that's purely an error of reading comprehension on their part.

This:

It's actually not. Resin Forge has referred to "BritsCon" as their "lawyers" several times.

And since according to their address on the C&D they are located in Erlangen, Bavaria, Germany, we dubbed them the "German lawyers". With good reason for the quote marks

If someone is planning a scam with Forge World products, maybe Forge World is interested and should be told in advance of the HH weekend.

If someone is planning a scam with Forge World products, maybe Forge World is interested and should be told in advance of the HH weekend.

It's not forbidden to buy Forgeworld products in bulk. What would FW do?

They really referred to Britcons as their lawyers? The letter doesn't, and all I saw was non-specific references to having retained/taking advice from their legal counsel (which they kept misspelling as "council").

But I haven't looked at their Facebook apart from screen caps posted here, so maybe I missed something.