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What part of Arkansas? I used to live there, now I live in the DFW area, and I still have a long reach with the gamers there.

 warhamster77 wrote:
What part of Arkansas? I used to live there, now I live in the DFW area, and I still have a long reach with the gamers there.

That's just it, he wasn't REALLY going to Arkansas. It was the excuse du jour.

I have heard if him as a bad trader, but my first experience with him was Three Stage Studios

 GalaxyGames wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

You would then have to travel to Texas to be in court to testify, present documentation, and hope that the other party hasn't done something to cause you to have to travel to Texas a second time; file a last second extension, perhaps?

The gaming community is a solid one and the people in it watch each other's back's very well.

RF kind of reminds of the guys that tried to start up that deep discount pre-order thing several months/couple of years ago.

MM and Alph would know who they were..... Gobbo Games or something?

I haven't read everything - but I assume you are talking about me. Justin Wu.

I am in Seattle, WA. My business(es) are seperate and not in any way affiliated or related at all to any past, or present ventures. (MWG, RSO, TSS, RF etc.)
I have known Matt-Daniel previously as he has been on my websites in the past as well as bartertown.
Dakka staff know who I am. MM-Bartertown knows who I am.

I do not have any outstanding owed debts/balances to anyone to my knowledge. I have not done much 'commercial' business in wargaming in a while.
I do have intentions of doing so again in the future, but more focused on my other non-wargaming ventures in RL.
If anything owed by me then feel free to contact me at any time. (Not Daniel's Transactions)

Galaxy Gobbo had closed down because the groupon-deep discount business model is not sustainable business model with very low profit margins.
We fulfilled all our orders to best of our supply capabilities, and refunded all who did not.

I have done several hundreds if not thousands of successful trades/sales transactions across Roguemarket, Bartertown, Dakka, & Ebay.
But, I am not perfect and I have failed on delivery on transactions in the past - but worked to the best of my ability to resolve on those transactions.

I casually still sell wargaming goods on the side (personal collection) on ebay and some few trades here and there.

I have assisted Dakka before on a past nasty scammer.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/242943.page

I also assisted AlarmingRick - with his deal with trade deal agreement with Matt-Daniel who owed him a Baneblade.
I was able to assist AlarmingRick to retrieve his owed Baneblade by supplying a Baneblade from my own personal inventory.

Hope this is clarification - to clear the air.
OP Topic isn't about me - but if any other questions let me know.

J

I think the one he was remembering was, maybe, "Gorilla Tactics"?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/229827.page

So, I have emailed a CLEAR breakdown of what Daniel Mandelbaum owes me to the direct "Resin Forge" email address, as instructed to do so by... Resin Forge!

I have received nothing but a stream of replies asking me to call them.

I've also received legal advice to NOT call them, and to keep everything with them 'in writing'.

Of course, the whole thing is a farce, as obviously Daniel Mandelbaum knows exactly what he did, and what he owes me.

I had little actual hope of him making good on this debt, 4 years later, but I figured it was worth a shot, and maybe, just maybe Daniel was trying to be a legitimate 'business' these days.

Apparently not.

 yakface wrote:

 Monster Rain wrote:
I'm not sure if it's defamation to talk about personal experiences with a given person, but whatevs.

The internet is serious business.

Anyone who has had personal experience with Resin Forge or any of its owners (knowing with 100% certainty that they were dealing with those individuals), should ALWAYS feel free to post their experiences here.

I've been thinking about this post, and I wanted to clear something up.

I was referring to the idea of a C&D being sent to Dakka due to people discussing this sort of thing, and not to any actions that you have taken, Yak. The buffoonery is on the part of Mendelbaum/Bonder/Resinforge/Mr. Ripley. I just wanted to make sure that this was clear.

Resin Forge answers (well, somehow) about the upcoming Horus Heresy Weekender: whatever is behind this guy(s), he/ they have a very clear aversion of answering question with yes or no

http://i.imgur.com/HCzPxEG.jpg

Would it not be easier to post a scan of the tickets for flights and event?

Would it not be easier to post a scan of the tickets for flights and event?

Easier than to say: "yes"?

This guy tries as hard as possible not to ever give anything tangible, so I think tickets and copies of ID cards are a bit wishful thinking

I think a lot of people would not take a "Yes" as proof -- it's very easy to type, after all -- but scans of valid tickets would be pretty convincing.

That would be me again ;-)

The following is an exchange between myself and 'Jason' this morning.

Please note that while 'Jason' asks for this to remain private, I make no such agreement.


07:25
Resin Forge Store
It really is a shame there hasn't been time to get to you sooner. First these initial talks, will be private. While you do have the right to share them, I would ask you keep them to yourself for the time being. Second, if you would say, make a list of questions, clear cut, no confusion where some reader may read one thing and another reads something else. Words need to be clear which you generally have down pat. *Kudos!
Its also a shame you are in the UK so calling our customer service line was set up for this sort of PR. We simply have very little time, withe event coming up and all this drama the service line was set up so anyone with questions, complaints or whatever can get a hold of a rep and get a quick answer or resolution.
But in light of you wanting "help" us which to be blunt, seems your right now leaning a certain way but its impossible to see your real motivations. Please do not take that as an offensive remark!
You send your questions here, they will then be passed along right to our PR person on Monday when he arrives in. Hes closed for the weekend. (*His hours are Monday - Saturday, 9AM - 9PM US CENTRAL timezone.*)
I'm sure at that point, we will answer as many of your questions as possible.

07:35
Art Darryl Steventon
So there's a PR person?
Are you incapable of answering direct, straight questions yourself?
To whom am I speaking now?
For clarity - I have no affiliation to any fora, website or blog - whilst I am active on the UK communities through various other avenues, and as such, I take great interest in any suspect behaviour, either from retailers or fora.
Right now, your side of the arguments look increasingly weaker and weaker.
The failure to answer questions that have been directly put to you and to then hide behind 'my PR person' is just adding to that perception.

07:41
Art Darryl Steventon
Please note: I shall not get into protracted conversations with faceless identities - please provide a name to which I can refer.

07:41
Resin Forge Store
First, i am not the PR person. That is the person who can be reached 12 hours a day 6 days a week. I will not reply to questions that I either don't know the answer to or simply cant help with a 100% response. My job here is to simply keep customer updated and this update is in regards to claims we are not going to HH. it seems pretty clear to us and gives anyone reading the post can then make up their own mind on if they trust us enough to wait or if they just want their money back. Its a win win for the customer.\

07:43
Art Darryl Steventon
To whom am I speaking now?

07:44
Resin Forge Store
Already a trick question because ive seen areas you post, and no matter what owners name i give, you will not believe it. Correct?
But to be fare.
Im jason, nice to meet you.
And for anyone to say im not real, follow this link to a resolved customer who talked to both me and another owner.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/523568.page
Specifically this quote:

07:46
Resin Forge Store
I spoke with 2, both men. Jason and Daniel.
Daniel (I believe, was the original owner that called me and wasnt very polite). From then on I spoke with Jason multiple times, he was always great and always ready to listen to what I had to say. Today, the final call was with Daniel. He apologized for the way he reacted when he originally called.
I liked the fact that he was the one calling to close it off, and not go into hide and avoiding what had happened.

07:46
Resin Forge Store
Now to your next question, each of the 3 owners has a 33.3% share.
One money, very queazy.
moment DAMN AUTOCORRECT

07:48
Art Darryl Steventon
Now we're getting somewhere.
I had seen that quote previously, and yes, it does say that the issue was resolved. After three months?
Whilst it was resolved, not exactly speedy was it?
Though, kudos - you did resolve it.
Now, do you care to answer the other questions?
If you can answer nr.1 the others all roll on from there.

07:50
Resin Forge Store
Contact him.

07:50
Art Darryl Steventon
Contact who?

07:52
Resin Forge Store
His item was ordered, shipped a few days late, got to tracking went to Chicago, then stopped updating. We contacted him, Daniel was rough, I was polite, he calmed down and we worked out 100 that very friday and 100 this friday (yesterday). We had proof we shipped. But we felt he shouldn't be out anything and we used it as a learning curve so that now, we ship registered with insurance.

07:52
Resin Forge Store
He can vouche the story
As im not the PR ill answer as many as I personally can before it will be pushed straight to the PR phone line.

07:52
Art Darryl Steventon
Noted and acknowledged.As you obviously read Dakka, care to comment on user 'Aerethan's comments?
Will he, as previously intimated by the RF site, be receiving a refund for monies previously paid?

07:54
Resin Forge Store
My understand of that guy is simple. Hes not a customer, will never be one so why is he owed a refund? And what would said refund be for exactly?

07:56
Art Darryl Steventon
I refer you to the previous comments made on your page 'anybody owed money by Daniel should contact us' - he alleges he has made contact by email.
Are you denying he is owed any money, by Mr Mandelbraum for any previously unfulfilled orders from previous organisations he was involved in?

07:58
Resin Forge Store
I am flat out denying he ever sent an email and infact only called out hotline once asking for eric before hanging up. Ask him to send the email both resin forge and yourself and watch his lie collapse.
Ask him to send the email with a BCC to you or something.

08:01
Art Darryl Steventon
Noted and acknowledged.
Moving on;
Why, given that your registered address is Texas based, did you retain a Germany based security company to issue the C&D to www.dakkadakka.com?
And are you still maintaining that due to the efforts of 'Lexicanum' their website was then taken down shortly after?
Do you have any comment on the (very brief) investigations carried out by various users on Www.dakkadakka.com regarding their bone fides?

08:06
Resin Forge Store
Yes we did retain the company. We have pages and pages of conversations with the CEo as well as a paypal payment sent and then when it was accepted by him. Same name on his paypal account as was on the C&D. Any other talk about them goes to the PR person.
Lex posted a comment which here is the cap oh which leads us to think he did based on his own words and how easy it was after someone asked why the site is gone. Need the screen cap?
And the last one also goes to the PR person.
If you are UK, we can give you a calling card number to you so you pay nothing. Then you could actually call customer service and get the questions you answered right away. I do apologize, PR isnt my job in RF

08:11
Art Darryl Steventon
No, given that I prefer to be able to refer back to conversations verbatim if so required under legal duress I would prefer to keep all contact text only.
I'm sure you'll appreciate that.
It boils down to protecting both you and I from any comments being taken out of context at a later date by either yourself, myself or any third parties who may be able to access said conversations.

08:12
Resin Forge Store
Your choic
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08:12
Art Darryl Steventon
Thank you for understanding.

08:12
Resin Forge Store
Just understand PR is not my job here with RF and just talking with you is a no no since now have a real PR person helping out.
its 215 here and im very tired, we can continue more tomorrowif you would like

08:13
Art Darryl Steventon
And just so I can refer to them correctly, what should I call the PR person? What is their name?


At that point the conversation finished with no further replies.

So, Resin Forge are now employing a 'PR' person, who will deal with all enquiries.

I've no axe to grind, no score to settle on either side - just a good old fashioned sense of fair play. I have asked very straight, very basic questions that have led nowhere - so make of this what you will.

I'll be blocking RF the second that they turn abusive.

I don't think it can be proven that Jason is a real person and not another persona of Daniel's to hide behind. Why would anyone with honest intentions get involved with someone with such a history.

This unnamed 'PR' person is deeply suspicious. Why can't a company run by three people answer a simple question? Why is Jason so clueless that he feels only their 'PR person' can answer them effectively? It's obviously evasive, RF don't like answering questions and don't like putting things in writing. Make of that what you will.

Why is Jason so clueless that he feels only their 'PR person' can answer them effectively? It's obviously evasive, RF don't like answering questions and don't like putting things in writing. Make of that what you will.

Because it was EXACTLY the same with releasing the name of the owners. Just replace "PR" by "lawyer".

has anyone tried to have a face to face with Dan?

I've already shown that Daniel calls people as "Jason". My boss was called by "Jason", who acted desperate, frantic, and paranoid and was calling from Michael Mandelbaums phone and left it as a call back number.

I also have emails proving that it was Resin Forge that called me, and that Daniel is the person who called, as there are no police reports under the name "Jason Martin" from this month, but there is the one from Daniel on the 6th just moments after he called my office.


My only involvement in this was a single comment on RF's facebook page stating that RF was a scam and that I guaranteed the orders were being filled from Texas if they were being filled at all. Facebook is how my company info was found(which has been corrected). "Jason" claimed to have gotten my company's IP address from either the comment on FB, or from the Dakka thread, neither of which he would have had access to as FB and Dakka do not make IPA's public. Nevermind that the FB comment I made from home on a Sunday.

Daniel is the one who made this personal with me. He could have just deleted my comment and moved on, but instead he reacted like a child and tried to wreck my personal life while hiding behind feigned anonymity.

Reading the email transcript was painful, the guys either very young or barely literate.

I have formed the opinion that there are aliases being used because of this alone. Being a long time forum/world of warcraft player, it sounds odd, but you do get a sense of the personality behind some text. For example if I made another account I'm sure people could tell it was me due to the way I type.

Anyways, it's painfully obvious that there are shenanigans, and I personally think that no laws are broken by people discussing their experiences, this guy is just playing dirty tricks with his letters and his emails as far as I can see.

I like the way he refures to the PR "guy" isnt it suposed to be daniel/jason and a woman in the company and has only those 3 as staff ? lol

Art Steventon wrote:

07:52
Art Darryl Steventon
Noted and acknowledged.As you obviously read Dakka, care to comment on user 'Aerethan's comments?
Will he, as previously intimated by the RF site, be receiving a refund for monies previously paid?

07:54
Resin Forge Store
My understand of that guy is simple. Hes not a customer, will never be one so why is he owed a refund? And what would said refund be for exactly?

07:56
Art Darryl Steventon
I refer you to the previous comments made on your page 'anybody owed money by Daniel should contact us' - he alleges he has made contact by email.
Are you denying he is owed any money, by Mr Mandelbraum for any previously unfulfilled orders from previous organisations he was involved in?

I think you confused "Aerethan" with "Alpharius".

And yes, I contacted "Resin Forge" specifically because of that statement. Daniel Mandelbaum owes me a significant amount of money, "Resin Forge" said that if Daniel Mandelbaum owes anyone anything, please contact them, I've done so, and have received no resolution at all.

Long story short - I am now currently engaged in what looks to be the "run around" phase with "Resin Forge".

There is a continued unwillingness to clearly state names, there is evasion where none would be necessary in a regularly run business. It's like reading transcripts for 'The Prisoner'...

Who is Daniel Mandelbaum?

You are number 6...

Who is the 'PR person'?

That is not Jason...

Who is Jason?

We are Resin Forge...

Is Resin Forge Daniel Mandelbaum?

You are number 6...

As a sidenote, BoLS has put all comments about Resin Forge under moderation (my last two posts (same as here, nothing objectionable) are still waiting for clearance or were deleted)... Wonder if they also received a C&D in order to stop the discussion from spreading to other forums...

On the HH Weekender thing.... I thought FW said "Limit of 1 per person" on the Fulgrim mini?

Stay with me here.....

If he was legitimately going to it to buy things for customers, he would have to take like, 20 people to the event to fill orders. Now let's pretend he's not going to fly 20 people there from Texas. We'll say he's just going to recruit some yobs hanging out at the pub. Buying 20 tickets and 20 Fulgrims pretty much means he would make no profit and in fact lose money.

There's just no logical way to obtain and deliver the product and still turn a profit.

Unless of course there's recasting involved or someone has math skills that use an alternate dimension.

This all reminds me of the (new) Battlestar Galactica line: "This has all happened before...and it will all happen again."

Bear in mind - I applaud the people trying to help protect their fellow hobbyists from scammers/re-casters/conmen and their kind.

It just really seems to be a replay of all the others scams (by multiple scammers) that have come before it. The really funny thing (and those laughs are few and far between given the time and money people have lost in these types of scams) is the half=@$$ C&D letter.

Which I think is the real issue of the post. It is the reason the other post was deleted and it does seem to be helpful in that it has positively identified the owner (at least 1/3 of the ownership) as D.M.

Everything else starts to skew off into spin/counter-spin/agitation mode. Does anyone else have any proof that the business truly exists at the location in the letter (possible two locations)?

Does anyone know if the signature block person really exists - or is he a fabrication as well? I've seen a few posts indicating communication with him. Is it by phone or email? I'm suspicious of any and all emails given the ease of fabrication there. Phone numbers are more difficult - since they are geographic in nature and type. A German or U.S. address will have an area code. I doubt people are flying around the world picking up burners/setting up real accounts on these phones and then paying international rates for operating scams in different countries.

If he was legitimately going to it to buy things for customers, he would have to take like, 20 people to the event to fill orders. Now let's pretend he's not going to fly 20 people there from Texas. We'll say he's just going to recruit some yobs hanging out at the pub. Buying 20 tickets and 20 Fulgrims pretty much means he would make no profit and in fact lose money.

In theory he could just have 20 (or however many he would need) friends or acquaintances who anyway were going to the HH Weekender and who agreed to buy one-per-person miniatures for him.

Does anyone else have any proof that the business truly exists at the location in the letter

You mean the Britcons business in the two alleged locations in Germany?

This is astonishing. The level of ineptitude on display is actually pitiable.

You're thinking this would be hard to do.

Need a phone number in the EU? Here you go: https://www.globalcallforwarding.com/?ads=2&gclid=CO_Qg6HMkLcCFUFo4AoduVsAqw

I have family all over Italy and Germany and I'm sure I can get more than a couple of them to answer the phone if the above doesn't work.

** Please don't think I agree with any of this or do it myself! Been a reputable Trader for many, many years. I'm just pointing out that someone can do this with very little actual effort.


[Edit] @Inq - That is really the only way, but I doubt he has 20 "friends" to do that. It could happen though, lol.

[Edit] @Inq - That is really the only way, but I doubt he has 20 "friends" to do that. It could happen though, lol.

I didn't say I believe this to be feasible or plausible either

Maybe he has some kind of disguise kit and he's going to try to get them as each of his personas.

Maybe he has some kind of disguise kit and he's going to try to get them as each of his personas.

Whatever disguise it is right now, it has the worst English skills of all so far:

UPDATE UPDATE

Resin Forge Store Customer Service line will be open today. We have brought in someone help any who made need it with anything involving RF to any of its owners. This is a professional with many years in the phone Customer Service world. If you have a question, he can help, or will at least try while always stay professional. [...]

or

*name removed*
I find it odd that you cant just say yes or no

Resin Forge Store
If we say we will fill your order unless you want a refund, imply yes, we are going ? The next is say the names and frankly with the threats, We will not be sharing which staff members are going nor will we state who we are meeting there. Mobs have hatred so to speak. A joke people.

Someone posted this regarding FW stuff on Lex's FB page, It makes me wonder exactly how many staff RF are sending, cos if they are based out of texas, unless they are charging way above GW sales prices then profit will be, well it'll be non-existent.

"I'd just like to point out that Forge World stated when I rang them last week that only one model will be sold to one person. So you can't buy one for anyone else.

You can put in an order for the new stuff there and then but will need to pay for delivery."

 darkshard wrote:
Someone posted this regarding FW stuff on Lex's FB page, It makes me wonder exactly how many staff RF are sending, cos if they are based out of texas, unless they are charging way above GW sales prices then profit will be, well it'll be non-existent.

"I'd just like to point out that Forge World stated when I rang them last week that only one model will be sold to one person. So you can't buy one for anyone else.

You can put in an order for the new stuff there and then but will need to pay for delivery."

so costs of 2 tickets from US did i see some one say $600 each + to and from airport to Nottingham that,s about £80 each hotel's in Nottingham lets say a grotty B&B about another £80 tickets to the event ,taxis etc etc etc and don't forget buying the figures at retail price (£50 per Fulgrim alone ) how is this actually been swallowed as plausible by the people on his FB page ?

 Savagecoyote wrote:

 darkshard wrote:
Someone posted this regarding FW stuff on Lex's FB page, It makes me wonder exactly how many staff RF are sending, cos if they are based out of texas, unless they are charging way above GW sales prices then profit will be, well it'll be non-existent.

"I'd just like to point out that Forge World stated when I rang them last week that only one model will be sold to one person. So you can't buy one for anyone else.

You can put in an order for the new stuff there and then but will need to pay for delivery."

so costs of 2 tickets from US did i see some one say $600 each + to and from airport to Nottingham that,s about £80 each hotel's in Nottingham lets say a grotty B&B about another £80 tickets to the event ,taxis etc etc etc and don't forget buying the figures at retail price (£50 per Fulgrim alone ) how is this actually been swallowed as plausible by the people on his FB page ?

Exactly. I was hoping someone would be able to tell me how the numbers were adding up enough for it to be considered a profit?
I wasn't even doing the real math when I was thinking about it, just figuring off the top of my head I thought it wouldn't add up as being profitable.