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Guys, these updates on what Resin Forge put on their Facebook pages are pointless and off topic. People who want to read the page are encouraged to go and read it.

I guess I'm missing exactly what the topic is anymore? Are we still supposed to be talking about the C&D? Personally I'm work blocked from FB, so I appreciate having an open thread that has posted updates on RF's doings and behavior.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Guys, these updates on what Resin Forge put on their Facebook pages are pointless and off topic.

People who want to read the page are encouraged to go and read it.

Is this meant as an official "Mod" communication, or as your personal opinion?
There's a difference in that, if it's official... then that's that. Barring someone asking an Admin to over-rule it, then it needs to be heeded. On the other hand, if it's your personal opinion, then I respectfully disagree, for all the reasons already posted. What might, now, look like a post that is easily ignored as unimportant might matter at some later time.

I'd go so far as to say that screen shots would be a better way of showing the updates than simple copy/pastes, however.

Eric

I'd go so far as to say that screen shots would be a better way of showing the updates than simple copy/pastes, however.

They exist. General rule with RF - if there's no screen it didn't happen

i agree that we need to keep the presure up on RF we cant let "them" slink off and wait for it all to blow over after all the work people have done to prevent issues.

so any comunications that come out of RF need to be kept for record atm . especialy as things arnt sorted out yet for the people who are owed stuff ( ether from past lives or from the HH weekend mystery)

but we all really do need to keep on topic.

 MagickalMemories wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Guys, these updates on what Resin Forge put on their Facebook pages are pointless and off topic.

People who want to read the page are encouraged to go and read it.

Is this meant as an official "Mod" communication, or as your personal opinion?
There's a difference in that, if it's official... then that's that. Barring someone asking an Admin to over-rule it, then it needs to be heeded. On the other hand, if it's your personal opinion, then I respectfully disagree, for all the reasons already posted. What might, now, look like a post that is easily ignored as unimportant might matter at some later time.

I'd go so far as to say that screen shots would be a better way of showing the updates than simple copy/pastes, however.

Eric

Both.

In general as a Mod I need to keep the thread on topic. Any long thread like this tends to wander off. The repeating statements about RF's Facebook page says this or that or whatever, or doesn't say this or that, are a symptom of wandering off topic. There isn't anything worth saying, so people are picking up trivial things in order to keep the thread going. (I fully understand why.)

Screen grabs are a lot more convincing, as people have said. But they should be about something substantive.

I am puzzled why no-one has pointed out that Resin Forge's web page has not been updated since Nov 12.

I am puzzled why no-one has pointed out that Resin Forge's web page has not been updated since Nov 12.

That is not correct. The "news" section of that page has not been updated since then. The actual page has been updated. For example with the note that they had to remove GW's pictures (in may). Also prices have been changed (for example the body of Angron from 30 to 27$). So the page is definitely serviced.

 Kilkrazy wrote:


I am puzzled why no-one has pointed out that Resin Forge's web page has not been updated since Nov 12.

When did he add "We apolgoize for the lack of section pictures. We were asked by GW to remove them and did so."

When did he add "We apolgoize for the lack of section pictures. We were asked by GW to remove them and did so."

Sometime between the "issuing" of the C&D and roughly a week or so before the HH weekender.

Nov 12 is not what I call news.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Nov 12 is not what I call news.

Nov 12 is shortly after the site went live, and only a few weeks after TSS died.

Alpharius:

Update: I'm currently in contact with Resin Forge as they work to pay off Daniel Mandelbaum's outstanding debt to me and they expect to have this accomplished by 5/24/13.

Any further developments on this yet?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Alpharius:

Update: I'm currently in contact with Resin Forge as they work to pay off Daniel Mandelbaum's outstanding debt to me and they expect to have this accomplished by 5/24/13.

Any further developments on this yet?

I don't think its the 24th in the US yet

Good news!

1) "Resin Forge" had asked for anyone with outstanding claims with Daniel Mandelbaum to contact them for help resolving them.
2) I did this and , as of today, was able to get everything resolved to the satisfaction of all parties involved - Me, Daniel and “Resin Forge”, through the mediation efforts of “Resin Forge”.
3) "Resin Forge" has stated that Daniel Mandelbaum is only a small part owner of Resin Forge, and not the sole owner.
4) “Resin Forge” is asking anyone with any outstanding claims to contact them directly via their customer service number.

With all models returned previously and now all money returned as well, I can finally consider the matter closed for good.

This is great news! Finally without the sarcasm that GW tarred that phrase with But seriously that is good to hear.

Good to see it's finally being sorted Alph.

Quick question on this point;

3) "Resin Forge" has stated that Daniel Mandelbaum is only a small part owner of Resin Forge, and not the sole owner.

Not sure if you'll know anything about it; but if they're planning on now acting legitimately and "going straight" as it were, how are they planning on getting around the bad reputation that Daniel's name has gotten? Due to this and the previous threads, that's probably cost them A LOT of customers. His influence also seems to be quite strong in Resin Forge's business; is it not possible for the other owner(s) to keep him in check? Because, well, we know exactly what happens when he tries to run a business himself; surely the other owner(s) would like to minimise that damage.

 motyak wrote:
This is great news! Finally without the sarcasm that GW tarred that phrase with But seriously that is good to hear.

No amount of lore inspired mind scrubbing would disinfect that phrase from GW's clutches.

But again, echoing the sentiment, it is best that anything that is wrong be resolved.

3) "Resin Forge" has stated that Daniel Mandelbaum is only a small part owner of Resin Forge, and not the sole owner.

Good than that they still used the Mandelbaum office space and home addresses I guess

But whatever, I'll go and spread the "great news", I am sure there are still plenty of people waiting to settle their issues

Um, not to be a Debbie downer, but paying back money stolen 4 years ago after 100s of harassing phone calls and emails and identity thefts trying to mislead and avoid paying back is not even-steven in my book. He still took money that wasn't his and kept it for years while calling you a liar and a psycho publicly, that's not ok.

It's a positive thing he paid you back yes, but it doesn't really change anything. It's just a drop in the bucket he would need to fill before even approaching becoming trustworthy.

A good first step Mandelbaum, but in my book that's all it is.

money stolen 4 years ago after 100s of harassing phone calls and emails and identity thefts trying to mislead and avoid paying back is not even-steven in my book. He still took money that wasn't his and kept it for years while calling you a liar and a psycho publicly, that's not ok.

I don't know why you would assume that RF can distance itself so easily from that. Paying back is one thing. Having a good reputation repaired something completely else.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Um, not to be a Debbie downer, but paying back money stolen 4 years ago after 100s of harassing phone calls and emails and identity thefts trying to mislead and avoid paying back is not even-steven in my book. He still took money that wasn't his and kept it for years while calling you a liar and a psycho publicly, that's not ok.

It's a positive thing he paid you back yes, but it doesn't really change anything. It's just a drop in the bucket he would need to fill before even approaching becoming trustworthy.

A good first step Mandelbaum, but in my book that's all it is.

What gets me is after finding out about the toxic sludge of bad PR that follows Mandelbaum, they still kept him on board. Yes they are cleaning it up, but it's not the kind of clean up that will be done easily or quickly.

So would RF like to make corrections to Daniel harassing my office and trying to get me fired for a single comment I made on facebook from home on a Sunday?

They can't buy their way out of that.

Side note: Alpharius, did you ever actually talk to one of the still alleged "owners" and verify that they exist as real people? Many of us are still unconvinced that there is anyone other than Mandelbondsley running things, under the guise of some BS gmail account that has the RF name on it.

Has anyone actually met or spoken to these "other owners"? I just don't get it - having been in business myself and been an accountant for 25yrs and dealt with many small businesses I can state quite categorically that in 99% of the case where there is a Danial character they either operate alone or are dumped immediate by the other partners when stuff like this comes to the fore.

I still don't believe there are other owners, who in their right mind would keep Danial on in the business with all the baggage etc as it has to harm sales. It wouldn't surprise me that in 6 months time RF became another RSO or TSS debacle.

Why do I always want to watch the movie Psycho after reading this thread?

Glad someone got their money back But as Tom has pointed out, its a step after a 4 years, of having someone elses money. Just look at the whole situation these past few weeks, the mess and the stress.

Still no RF stamped pictures from the HH weekender, nothing posted on updated orders etc from the weekender.

27/05/2013:

Fear Gfx: Is that whole fraud suspicion taken care off?

Resin Forge Store: Resin Forge never owed anyone anything, period.

Fear Gfx: just asking...

Resin Forge Store: Don't sweat it.

I suppose that's technically true, given that it was an owner who owes people money independently of Resin Forge.

It definitely omits some pertinent information. I know that I will never buy anything from this company due to their choice to work with this person.

Well RF wasnt going to say. Well this company doesnt, but a partner who had a number of companies in the past, does from up to 4 or so years ago.

What a load... Mandelbaum that is such a con. Resin Forge the company (? lol) never owed anyone something, but Daniel Mandelbaum owes tons of people still last I checked. If you are an owner Daniel, that means Resin Forge, through you, owes people. Playing semantics to pretend everything is squeaky clean is so tired at this point... you want people to stop looking at you crooked try honesty, repaying all of your past customers and not throwing up smoke-screens left and right.

Give me a break.

Where are the pictures of Kim and Jason from the HH weekender btw? We are all still waiting to see those as you promised, surely you got the pictures by now? What about the Fulgrims?

Since he has made it clear he reads this thread might as well ask again...

Alpharius wrote: With all models returned previously and now all money returned as well, I can finally consider the matter closed for good.

Congrats Alpharius.

Well Tom, honestly if I didn't know about an individual that I had started a business with(providing these people aren't the same person) owed previous customers from his sole personally owned business I would not, through my company, repay debts owed by an individual within the company. However, I would, as a 33% owner convince the other person(who is also 33%), and use that 66% to give him the friggen boot. Or I would provide a DIRECT line to Mr. Mendelbaum where he can use his OWN funds to repay previous customers from another company. If he dared take money from the company in which he is an equal shareholder, I would file embezzlement charges for him doing so.