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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 08:40:45
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Inquisitor S. wrote:Sorry, bit confused here.
Although Dan emailed me to point out that that's actually from five years ago, so I should correct my mistake or its liable. Found it on the first page when I googled "Resin Forge".
Daniel Mandelbaum mailed you about which post you made where? Where did he mail you to. Which e-mail address did he use?
What was your alleged mistake?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 08:51:50
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Alright, simple rundown;
Earlier today I googled "Resin Forge" out of curiosity to see what would come up. One of the results was the post by some guy who set up Resin Forge with Paul on another forum.
When someone commented in this thread about the three owners Dan, Jason and Kim, I replied about seeing the post talking about Paul.
Resin Forge emailed me at my standard adurot@gmail.com address that's linked to this account here asking where I heard about this Paul. Got a second email before I even saw the first where they had found the post themselves as well and said it wasn't them, pointed out it was from five years ago, and told me to fix my mistake because it was liable.
Yes, the link in the old post takes you to the new site. That's because with the same name, they both use the same address. If I move out of my house and someone else moves in, trying to send mail to my old address will have it sent to the new owners. Same thing here.
No, I didn't take what was apparently a misspelled legal threat about a simple mistake on the Internet seriously and laughed at it, but I can also admit when I'm wrong so I followed up here that it was indeed a five year old post and has nothing to do with the current Resin Forge.
Was also pointed out to me in an email that my assumption it was Dan that emailed me is apparently wrong, and they made reference to being a girl, so that means its apparently Kim. I of course have no way to verify who it is.
Why they would jump on the comment about there being a Paul? Well if there was a big debate about who's real or not, and someone (me) jumps in and says oh there's also totally this other guy they've not even mentioned yet, I'd want to clear that up as well. Seems perfectly reasonable, though they did come across rather brash with that apparent legal threat right out of the gate over what was clearly a simple mistake.
And the email says its Dakka who told the other two owners they cant make an account, not Dan. Was also mentioned even if they did everyone would just say they were Dan anyways.
They also said the product from the HH weekender has been mailed out to customers.
Final comment as full disclosure, Resin Forge offered to send me some free bitz as compensation for fixing my error here and generally being non biased. Not decided yet on if I'll take them up on that or not. I do like bitz, so I'll probably browse their store tomorrow and see what they've got to offer.
And with that, I'll back out of this current brouhaha of my own making as it was all a misunderstanding and should not reflect on current issues. Back to lurking...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 08:54:26
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Do I get it right?
The old Resin Forge company has nothing to do with the new Resin Forge company, but shares the same website?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:05:18
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Mandelbaum is a liar, out and out lol... What, we told 'Kim' and 'Jason' they couldn't make accounts before we even knew it was Mandelbaum at RF? There was a gap of months lol...
Daka loves getting in touch with random companies and telling them not to make accounts for no reason lol. And so nice of alleged Kim and supposed Jason to accommodate the request by then showing their trademark restraint not making an account anyways... Yup... Restraint is a byword for RF when it comes to the Internet and not picking fights! Oh wait lol.
The problem with Mandelbaum is compulsive lying without thinking thins through, then losing track of his stories. He is also loving threatening anyone who even types his name into a keyboard with 'liable' without understanding what it even means lol...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:05:45
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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It appears that:
1) there used to be in 2008 a company called 'Resin Forge' who attended games days and sold GW stock.
2) there was a member of that RF who was called Paul
3) at some point that RF went bust / went out of business
4) Daniel Mandelbraum / Matthew Bonder / Kim Hernandez / Jason whoever then started posting as RF earlier this year, and setup a website using the same URL as the old RF
5) Daniel is not the only person(ality) at RF
6) someone emailed to claim libel / liable for comments made surrounding the use of the name 'Paul' in relation to RF 'now' as opposed to RF 'then'.
I seriously doubt ANYONE has had new stock from Daniel / Jason / Kim / Matthew. It's easy to say this is the case - but where is the proof? If it was me I would have been posting pictures of the packets and screaming 'SCREW YOU DAKKA!' At the top of my lungs to prove us wrong on the accusations, but, There is, to paraphrase the Matrix, no spoon. Or in this case, no stock.
There never was.
He's a lying toad - a Walter Mitty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:07:14
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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@kroot
Registration for the domain prob lapsed and Mandelbaum bought it from go daddy or whatever... Prob no connection whatsoever... Resin Forge is not the hardest name to come up with for our industry after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:10:34
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Someone should tell Resin Forge how to spell 'libel', it's not the first time they've made that mistake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:11:58
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Final comment as full disclosure, Resin Forge offered to send me some free bitz as compensation for fixing my error here and generally being non biased. Not decided yet on if I'll take them up on that or not. I do like bitz, so I'll probably browse their store tomorrow and see what they've got to offer.
Wait, wait, wait.
You were/ are NOT a customer of Resin Forge and had/ have no oustanding things to settle with them and they offered to send you bits (incl. postage costs?) just so that you remove a comment where you say there was another company with the same name 5 years ago?
Is that correct? So basically they offer you stuff to change statements?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:15:26
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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'Thanks for being non-biased', so here's some freebies to change your previous comments.
I suggest you *don't* give them your personal details and home address given that only a little earlier they wanted to take action against you for 'liable' and have a habit of harassing and abusing people over the phone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:18:21
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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I wouldn't give that guy your personal info if you know what's good for you dude lol....
And yes, 'they' expect if they give you anything that he has then bought you. If you say or do anything other than support him after that, silence counting as betrayal as well btw, he will badger the hell out of you. He has nothing better to do than email strangers in a harassing relentless fashion, trust me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:28:44
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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MajorTom11 wrote:I wouldn't give that guy your personal info if you know what's good for you dude lol....
And yes, 'they' expect if they give you anything that he has then bought you. If you say or do anything other than support him after that, silence counting as betrayal as well btw, he will badger the hell out of you. He has nothing better to do than email strangers in a harassing relentless fashion, trust me.
Allegedly harass! You dont want to get a sternly worded email!
I find it funny that they offered bits for taking a comment that was an obvious mistake and fixing it.
So all someone would have to do is say Joe works at RF and apologize for some bits? Sounds like a sweet deal if it were any company beyond RF.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:29:01
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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To me it looks like paying off Alpharius is done to create a fake image of good will so that others don't go up in arms and cancel their orders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:30:35
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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They did not offer to send me stuff and ask me to change my post. They told me to change my post because it was wrong, and it was wrong, so I did change it. The offer for free bitz came a couple of emails later and was not tied to any conditions. I'm also not Super worried about giving them my address as it literally takes two google searches to find it. I'm not very anonymous really. I'm actually kind of curious to see if I'd actually get them. Not saying I don't believe them or think they're lying, just, well, you know, Dan's reputation and all...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:45:23
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Rotgut wrote: MajorTom11 wrote:I wouldn't give that guy your personal info if you know what's good for you dude lol....
And yes, 'they' expect if they give you anything that he has then bought you. If you say or do anything other than support him after that, silence counting as betrayal as well btw, he will badger the hell out of you. He has nothing better to do than email strangers in a harassing relentless fashion, trust me.
Allegedly harass! You dont want to get a sternly worded email!
I find it funny that they offered bits for taking a comment that was an obvious mistake and fixing it.
So all someone would have to do is say Joe works at RF and apologize for some bits? Sounds like a sweet deal if it were any company beyond RF.
I don't have to say alleged if I've seen/experienced it both to myself and others
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:49:32
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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So to be clear about everything, there was a company called Resin Forge set up in 2008 to make 40K buildings. They have since gone out of business. Daniel Mandelbaum and his two associates bought the name and URL for their own business, presumably last autumn, but there is no connection between the two companies. The "Tiny" in Monkeycrap is not Daniel Mandelbaum. The "Paul" is no-one associated with the current Resin Forge. Is that the situation?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:52:14
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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The offer for free bitz came a couple of emails later and was not tied to any conditions
So you were not a customer and nevertheless they offered to send you free bits? Why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 09:58:46
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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From The FB page
"RF partial inventory including many things not in the shop yet. This will be the one and only time we will "prove" anything to the certain group that keeps saying we have no stock. Also its worth noting that we do not update orders publicly except on rare instances. The HH weekender items we got on hand have gone out. All have been delivered (or are in transit to the more remote places) with no problems. The extras as well as the Praetors were ordered and those customers talk with us almost daily.
In the photo below you can see weapon boxes and shoulder pads in the back, also with arms and odds and ends, the 3 main ones up front are tons of termies, tons of heads torsos and backpacks in another and the 3rd is full of legs and other bits. The giant pile of bits are ones yet to be put in the shop as are the pile of FW bags (9 but its hard to see) as well as 3 more blisters. The black boxes are HH character bits.
Can the rumors about us not sending orders or having stock please stop now?"
So if i post a picture of my bits box's that proves i'm legitimate!!!!!!!! dude i could go photo mine and my friends right now we would look like GW headquarters and FW put together
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 10:03:16
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Inquisitor S. wrote:The offer for free bitz came a couple of emails later and was not tied to any conditions
So you were not a customer and nevertheless they offered to send you free bits? Why?
Never been a customer, no. I just have amazing mooch powers and people can't help but offer to give me free stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 10:12:30
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Savagecoyote wrote: From The FB page
" RF partial inventory including many things not in the shop yet. This will be the one and only time we will "prove" anything to the certain group that keeps saying we have no stock. Also its worth noting that we do not update orders publicly except on rare instances. The HH weekender items we got on hand have gone out. All have been delivered (or are in transit to the more remote places) with no problems. The extras as well as the Praetors were ordered and those customers talk with us almost daily.
In the photo below you can see weapon boxes and shoulder pads in the back, also with arms and odds and ends, the 3 main ones up front are tons of termies, tons of heads torsos and backpacks in another and the 3rd is full of legs and other bits. The giant pile of bits are ones yet to be put in the shop as are the pile of FW bags (9 but its hard to see) as well as 3 more blisters. The black boxes are HH character bits.
Can the rumors about us not sending orders or having stock please stop now?"
So if i post a picture of my bits box's that proves i'm legitimate!!!!!!!! dude i could go photo mine and my friends right now we would look like GW headquarters and FW put together
Same here, I keep every box I get from GW, an odd habit. I could look like a Legit Space Marine dealer in no time if all it took were some pictures
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 10:58:33
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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"RF partial inventory including many things not in the shop yet. This will be the one and only time we will "prove" anything to the certain group that keeps saying we have no stock. Also its worth noting that we do not update orders publicly except on rare instances. The HH weekender items we got on hand have gone out. All have been delivered (or are in transit to the more remote places) with no problems. The extras as well as the Praetors were ordered and those customers talk with us almost daily.
In the photo below you can see weapon boxes and shoulder pads in the back, also with arms and odds and ends, the 3 main ones up front are tons of termies, tons of heads torsos and backpacks in another and the 3rd is full of legs and other bits. The giant pile of bits are ones yet to be put in the shop as are the pile of FW bags (9 but its hard to see) as well as 3 more blisters. The black boxes are HH character bits.
Can the rumors about us not sending orders or having stock please stop now?"
As usual an answer that addresses a question that nobody asked (if they had an inventory for the shop products) and circles around the actual question asked (where are the pictures of the HH weekender products).
Almost admirable efforts to always look as the victim by so selectively picking out posts and items.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:07:34
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Old Sourpuss
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They are still very much reading this thread as they have mentioned, "Why are people thinking there are plastic bits there? More importantly, why are people thinking the exact stock we have on the site, now clearly seen in a picture, can be called 'a personal bits box'. Clearly it's the inventory from the shop."
Well clearly they've never seen some of the dakkanauts' bits boxes. I believe there is a picture on that large Mantis Warriors blog that shows at least double the bits in RF's photo.
I know that you all are reading this Resin Forge, seriously Kim and Jason can easily create an account here, they haven't been banned. Make an account and actually communicate, or hell set up a Reddit AMA. Talk with your dissenters, and work to get this ish settled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:10:47
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Lol they don't have a shop...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:18:26
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Zack, there!
Tom Sweo:
The claims of product was for the fulgrim models you got, I question I asked a few weeks ago and was ignored :-\… I just wanted to see the model in its box/blister in its unassembled beauty...
Resin Forge Store:
Why would we open a product for a customer? The box itself is the normal HH box. When the others we ordered arrive we will have them as bits in the shop, as well as 2 sets of praetors. Those we will open and have for sale as bits.
Resin Forge Store:
Also the claim was not just for Fulgrim. It was questioning our entire stock. The picture clearly shows the exact stock we have in the shop.
Mr Mandelbaum, there we have two "inaccuracies":
1.) nobody here doubted the "entire stock."
2.) Just shortly before you said " RF partial inventory including many things not in the shop yet", now it's suddenly "the exact stock we have in the shop". Contradictory? Or you don't know what you have in the shop and what is in the picture?
You should at least be able to remember what you just said shortly before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:30:08
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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By "shop", do they mean an actual retail outlet that I could go into a buy some stuff over the counter for cash?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:35:17
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Kilkrazy wrote:By "shop", do they mean an actual retail outlet that I could go into a buy some stuff over the counter for cash?
I think they mean webshop, like etsy or the like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 12:37:34
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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I.e his dad's basement. Automatically Appended Next Post: You will note he is making claims he got items and already shipped them that could only be purchased at the weekender... Yet cannot produce a pic of Kim and Jason's from the weekender, nor show an image of the products in question.
Typical Mandelbaum, acts like he is proving something while in fact dodging everything...
Daniel, quick, I dare you, prove Jason and Kim went to the hh weekender... Show some pics, a hotel bill, plane tickets, stamps on their passports, refer us to a reliable uk based person who was verifiably at the event and met them... I triple dare you son!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 13:04:35
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Daniel, quick, I dare you, prove Jason and Kim went to the hh weekender... Show some pics, a hotel bill, plane tickets, stamps on their passports, refer us to a reliable uk based person who was verifiably at the event and met them... I triple dare you son!
He can't as he is busy bashing the Lexicanum again
And funny how (again) he accuses people of the things he was just shortly before accused of. Defintely Mr Mandelbaum at the keyboard there
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 13:10:50
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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Yes Inquisitor S., "Resin Forge" as an entity seems to have issues with phrasing (Archer.jpg)--in regards to Daniel/Kim/whatever else other name is floating around.
Does Resin Forge have a brick/mortar store front?
Does Resin Forge have a trade account with Games Workshop?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 13:15:18
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
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It's not even dads basement. He lives with Grandma and Grandpa, as does daddy.
As always, there is no Kim, there is no Jason. They have no photos from HH weekend because fictitious people can't go to real events.
No one cares about what "stock" they have on hand. We care only about Fulgrim, and the proof that RF ever had a single one to begin with. Random comments from private accounts in Europe on Facebook are hardly proof.
At this point, the ONLY thing that would sate the community as a start would be for Kim and Jason to get on the phone, talk with me, and then show themselves publicly with some form of verified message proving that they are not just random pics from the interwebs.
Kim, you know where I work. My extension is 130. I welcome a call from you to work this all out. Daniel of course is not welcome to call, as he burnt that bridge earlier this month. Automatically Appended Next Post: AgeOfEgos wrote:Yes Inquisitor S., "Resin Forge" as an entity seems to have issues with phrasing (Archer.jpg)--in regards to Daniel/Kim/whatever else other name is floating around.
Does Resin Forge have a brick/mortar store front?
Does Resin Forge have a trade account with Games Workshop?
No and no.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/28 13:16:21
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Feldwebel
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Tom - that's the thing, he can't prove it can he, as its nothing but a thin tissue of LIES
Daniel:
A) the boxes of 'stock' - be it partial or otherwise, proves nothing. Where are the HH Weekender parts? Oh yes, that's right, you've already shipped out the Fulgrims. Ok, that's plausible, apart from.... You've dodged answering a straight question several times on how many you managed to grab haven't you? Also, I have probably 10 boxes similar to those (I use the Really Useful Box Co.s versions as I can sort to my hearts content) all full of FW parts, and possibly another dozen with GW parts. What does that prove? That we're bothk high consumers of GW stock. What it doesn't prove is that you have stock purchased from the HH weekend legitimately does it?
2) proving you / Jason / Kim were there is impossible as you weren't there - no directly attributable pictures, no stubs for tickets, no receipts.... Not to mention I even offered you / your multiple personalities a pint if you met me at the Belfry - I'd even have gone public and apologised for doubting you! Instead I got a very nice evening taking part in a quiz with friends, whilst asking anyone with even a whiff of an American accent if they knew of Resin Forge. None of which admitted any involvement even on the ofference of beer...!
You've been found out - you were found out weeks ago . Those who still support you will no doubt come a cropper with you at some point when you let them down as you always do.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'll also add that it's strange that the 'people' who apparently offered him their Fulgrims are nowhere to be seen .....?
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