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Made in ch
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes. In fact a company in Texas is beholden to Texan law, which requires that it be registered.

That's what I thought. It seems strange that a small Texan run business which operates on little to no profit margin would try to obey UK law, and possibly make a rod for their own back, by raising the possibility of having action taken against them in UK courts and having the added financial burden of employing legal counsel in the UK, as well as having to travel there when compelled to appear.


I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...
   
Made in us
Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

They just seem to have an excuse for every question.

"We were scammed by our fake lawyer from Germany"
"People convinced 8 sellers in the UK to not sell us their Fulgrims"
"Our faces are in all our pics and we don't want the world to know what we look like"(which is the easiest way to make people assume you are still the person we all suspect you of being)
"We're waiting to release info that proves Daniel is out because BS BS BS BS".

In the midst of all this turmoil, those "likes" keep rising. How much do those things cost?

"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

Gamma310 wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes. In fact a company in Texas is beholden to Texan law, which requires that it be registered.

That's what I thought. It seems strange that a small Texan run business which operates on little to no profit margin would try to obey UK law, and possibly make a rod for their own back, by raising the possibility of having action taken against them in UK courts and having the added financial burden of employing legal counsel in the UK, as well as having to travel there when compelled to appear.


I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...


Historically it's more a case of growing a lie bigger and bigger until it can no longer be sustained because it starts to contradict itself and falls apart.

Doing more than is needed to please the people would be "while we at the Weekender to pick up models for our customers let us take more than 11 pictures of an event that we previously stated we would cover and share with our customers".

But maybe I just have high expectations...
   
Made in us
Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

Gamma310 wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes. In fact a company in Texas is beholden to Texan law, which requires that it be registered.

That's what I thought. It seems strange that a small Texan run business which operates on little to no profit margin would try to obey UK law, and possibly make a rod for their own back, by raising the possibility of having action taken against them in UK courts and having the added financial burden of employing legal counsel in the UK, as well as having to travel there when compelled to appear.


I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...


So they'll comply with UK law about posting crap online, but not comply with Texas law regarding DBA registration? Call me crazy, but one of those 2 governments will kill you if you do enough wrong, and it isn't the one where police don't have guns.


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 d-usa wrote:
Gamma310 wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes. In fact a company in Texas is beholden to Texan law, which requires that it be registered.

That's what I thought. It seems strange that a small Texan run business which operates on little to no profit margin would try to obey UK law, and possibly make a rod for their own back, by raising the possibility of having action taken against them in UK courts and having the added financial burden of employing legal counsel in the UK, as well as having to travel there when compelled to appear.


I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...


Historically it's more a case of growing a lie bigger and bigger until it can no longer be sustained because it starts to contradict itself and falls apart.

Doing more than is needed to please the people would be "while we at the Weekender to pick up models for our customers let us take more than 11 pictures of an event that we previously stated we would cover and share with our customers".

But maybe I just have high expectations...



Which is ludicrous. Every year I go to NAMM which is a music expo, and every year I come back with about 250 pictures(2012 I had over 500), about 10% of which actually have me in them.

And then RF says that they just so happened to already have planned on being in the UK to visit friends when the HH weekend was announced, so they were going to just drop by, no big deal. I call an insane amount of coincidental bs there.

Pictures of plane tickets, sales receipts, DBA or tax ID. We're not asking for unreasonable things here.

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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
Made in be
Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

In any case the last post they made is not really clear to understand. I wish they would put a little more effort and checking into their public statements.

However it is now also listed in the about us section which we will also shortly have our LLC info showing the 2 remaining owners, company address, as well as the UK laws (we are US based, however we will comply to UK laws) that require a company to do those very things.

If you take it as it is, it says they will include the actual UK law texts. Plus I doubt there are laws saying anything about Facebook's "About us" section. And even if, for the European market that would be Irish law, not UK law.

However somebody once said if you sell to the UK, you need to have some stuff that UK law requires - in how far that is true I can't say.

In the midst of all this turmoil, those "likes" keep rising. How much do those things cost?

Cents. I am not saying they buy them. They/ he post their/ his models all over the place. Much more probable Their like increase is just back to previous levels, nothing super-suspicious.

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Made in us
Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot





Sparta, Ohio

My wife owns a company that is a LLC. As a Union Ironworker it works out for us. I do Ironwork (Build bridges and steel buildings), she works for a local hospital, and we ran the other business with only her on it so that I could get unemployment when I was laid off. All completely legal and above board ... but I still made money off of it and my name was not attached to it ANYWHERE.

Sorry, I have to cry BS when they say that there are employees in the photos and they are worried about harassment. Photoshop, MS paint, and various other things are available to blur or blackout faces. All could be done in about 5 seconds ... and they have to have something like that because, if you recall, they were going to watermark 'their' photos ... need software to do that. Use the software that you intended to watermark with to blur faces ....c'mon, it is not like you are building a NASA control center here.

One thing about the Business # that the wife has, now that I think about it ... it does have our ADDRESS on it ... perhaps this is why they are unwilling to publish it until it is changed. Just a thought.

Now, we like big books. (And we cannot lie. You other readers can’t deny, a book flops open with an itty-bitty font, and a map that’s in your face, you get—sorry! Sorry!)  
   
Made in be
Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

One thing about the Business # that the wife has, now that I think about it ... it does have our ADDRESS on it ... perhaps this is why they are unwilling to publish it until it is changed. Just a thought.


They already wrote (see my loooong post) that they will only publish a PO box address. Can you make an LLC with a PO box address?

   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Leerstetten, Germany

I personally don't do business with any one man operation that is a PO Box, it's an instant red flag to me.
   
Made in ca
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
One thing about the Business # that the wife has, now that I think about it ... it does have our ADDRESS on it ... perhaps this is why they are unwilling to publish it until it is changed. Just a thought.


They already wrote (see my loooong post) that they will only publish a PO box address. Can you make an LLC with a PO box address?


Not if the PO Box is from the US Postal Service. From a quick search about registering an LLC ;

"When submitting your application for your business, you’re not allowed to use a P.O. Box number. However, when you rent from a UPS Store, you can simply turn your mailbox number into a “Suite” number, and the address will totally fly. In fact, that’s what was recommended to me by the person working at the UPS Store.

So, if I ended up getting mailbox #111 from a UPS Store on 222 Main Street, my physical business address might look like this:

222 Main Street, Suite 111"

So it is absolutely doable assuming it is not a government post office owned box.

And of course having an LLC with 2 owners does not preclude having additional people on-board, so "proving" new (reduced) ownership proves little.
Not to mention it takes an average of 20-30 days to get your paperwork and have a "registered" LLC once you've filed.

*Edit : Upon further reading even the UPS PO box is suspect. Unless, of course, the UPS Store is charging a fee for services to be the 'registered agent" to accept any service of legal notices on behalf of the LLC in question (and as such must be named in the LLC registration as their agent for receiving said legal notices).

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Made in us
Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions






Gamma310 wrote:
I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...

What people are they trying to please? Do they have a significant number of UK customers and enough profit margin to contest any civil case in the UK? It seems strange to me otherwise because I've seen nothing that there is any substantive need to follow UK law, especially as a small US based operation.

 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






Akron, OH

Inquisitor S. wrote:
One thing about the Business # that the wife has, now that I think about it ... it does have our ADDRESS on it ... perhaps this is why they are unwilling to publish it until it is changed. Just a thought.


They already wrote (see my loooong post) that they will only publish a PO box address. Can you make an LLC with a PO box address?


As far as I can remember, no, you need a proper address on the paperwork. On The Lamb's paperwork is all on our actual address, but we only use the PO Box for everything else as our postal service is horrible.

-Emily Whitehouse| On The Lamb Games
 
   
Made in us
Horrific Howling Banshee






Well to be honest, it doesn't take much to find an address. I found everyone related to Daniel and his address in Dallas with just a cursory search. Pipl.com. Or you can check the Dallas county registry. and his father owns his house, so he pops up immediately. It isn't hard to find someone in the U.S. His/their attempts at being vague are pretty much pointless.

   
Made in gb
Confident Goblin Boss






Can't speak for the USA but here in the UK most registered addresses for businesses are the accountants address, you have a trading from address so all official mail from HMRC & Companies House etc go there and invoices and gak go to your trading from.

   
Made in jp
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Gamma310 wrote:
I think they do that to please the people. I don't think they do that because they had to or something like that. It's more kind of doing more than is needed...

What people are they trying to please? Do they have a significant number of UK customers and enough profit margin to contest any civil case in the UK? It seems strange to me otherwise because I've seen nothing that there is any substantive need to follow UK law, especially as a small US based operation.


Some research into UK and Texan company law is needed.

But yes, overall there is a strange lack of detail and precision about everything.

"Once we find a law firm..."
That would take 10 minutes on Google.

"Of a reasonable price..."
You don't need a law firm to fill in the papers to register a company.

As mentioned above, employees of a company are not listed on the registration anyway, so the absence of Mandelbaum would not prove he had left the company.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
Made in us
Horrific Howling Banshee






@Kilkrazy, in Dallas you can throw a rock and hit a lawyer, there are approximately 11,500 lawyers in Dallas/Ft. Worth. His/their excuse is another stall tactic. And Texas law states that if you are a legitimate business (taxes, permits,employees) you must register for an LLC within 30 days.

   
Made in us
Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions






 Kilkrazy wrote:

Some research into UK and Texan company law is needed.

But yes, overall there is a strange lack of detail and precision about everything.

"Once we find a law firm..."
That would take 10 minutes on Google.

"Of a reasonable price..."
You don't need a law firm to fill in the papers to register a company.

As mentioned above, employees of a company are not listed on the registration anyway, so the absence of Mandelbaum would not prove he had left the company.

I believe there are reputable companies that will do LLC paperowrk for $99 + the State filing fee(s). Also;
No, you do not need an attorney to form an LLC. You can prepare the legal paperwork and file it yourself, or use a professional business formation service, such as [redacted]. If you choose to form your LLC through [redacted], you will only need to answer a few simple questions online. We will take care of all of your paperwork, file the necessary documents with the state and even send you an LLC kit with seals and certificates.

(website's name removed in case it is seen as advertising)

I do believe that they will have to name at least one member of their company if they go the LLC route- http://www.sos.state.tx.us/corp/forms/205_boc.pdf

 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





It is all stall tactics from what I read above, if anyone thinks that will statisfy questions they are sadly mistaken.

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Made in us
Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

 warhamster77 wrote:
@Kilkrazy, in Dallas you can throw a rock and hit a lawyer, there are approximately 11,500 lawyers in Dallas/Ft. Worth. His/their excuse is another stall tactic. And Texas law states that if you are a legitimate business (taxes, permits,employees) you must register for an LLC within 30 days.


Meanwhile 8 months later RF doesn't have that done.

"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
Made in jp
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

There are several ways to form a company without it being a limited liability company.

They might have registered as a partnership trading under a name. You have to register, though.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
Made in us
Sslimey Sslyth




For what it's worth, when I was working as a dance instructor, my earnings were small-time enough for me to just do as "business for self." I didn't incorporate or anything, and my income was either self reported or reported as 1099's from certain larger groups I did work for. I filed taxes for the three years I did that sort of work using a form 1040 Schedule-C. I never registered with any state governmental organization, and nothing was ever said to me by any entity, including my accountant, about that. Most of the dance instructors I know (who don't own their studio) handle stuff this way.
   
Made in us
Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

Saldiven wrote:
For what it's worth, when I was working as a dance instructor, my earnings were small-time enough for me to just do as "business for self." I didn't incorporate or anything, and my income was either self reported or reported as 1099's from certain larger groups I did work for. I filed taxes for the three years I did that sort of work using a form 1040 Schedule-C. I never registered with any state governmental organization, and nothing was ever said to me by any entity, including my accountant, about that. Most of the dance instructors I know (who don't own their studio) handle stuff this way.



You sold services, presumably under your own name and not under a DBA. Resin Forge is a retailer, selling goods across state lines where sales tax MUST be reported. They MUST have a DBA registered with their county, and they MUST charge sales tax to any customers in TX, meaning they MUST have a tax ID.

"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
 
   
Made in us
Sslimey Sslyth




 Aerethan wrote:
Saldiven wrote:
For what it's worth, when I was working as a dance instructor, my earnings were small-time enough for me to just do as "business for self." I didn't incorporate or anything, and my income was either self reported or reported as 1099's from certain larger groups I did work for. I filed taxes for the three years I did that sort of work using a form 1040 Schedule-C. I never registered with any state governmental organization, and nothing was ever said to me by any entity, including my accountant, about that. Most of the dance instructors I know (who don't own their studio) handle stuff this way.



You sold services, presumably under your own name and not under a DBA. Resin Forge is a retailer, selling goods across state lines where sales tax MUST be reported. They MUST have a DBA registered with their county, and they MUST charge sales tax to any customers in TX, meaning they MUST have a tax ID.


I actually just called the Texas State Comptrollers office. According to their representative, regardless of whether or not they're using a DBA or incorporated or whatever else, since they're selling a good, they must have completed the registration to get a sales tax number, must collect sales tax, and must send the collected tax to the state.

So, you're exactly correct.

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Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Who wants to bet that didn't happen... sigh...

   
Made in gb
Feldwebel




Tamworth, UK

In the UK any person can check with Companies House to find a Co. registration.

You can also check with the HMRC for VAT numbers for sole traders / partnerships to check that they're valid and legal - is it not possible in the US?

Unfortunately my CIPS qualification is UK biased so the intracacies of the US tax / contract law system are mystical to me :-)

But yet again, still obfuscation and half truths rue the day for RF - even when they're being 'open' the aping holes in the story are apparent.
   
Made in be
Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

DW:
Hi dude. Little clarification from Resin Forge:

Can you tell lex, thank you for not changing things but he did get one fact wrong as did the others that read it.

We are not following UK laws, we offered to put UK law info on the site to make UK customers feel better. Here in the US we are not required to do anything of the sort.

So please let him know it was and is being done for him and his UK fans that seem to think its a law in the US as well.

Thank you.


"UK law info" still means information about UK law. Don't know how they would know about UK law or how that is supposed to make UK customers feel better. But so be it, not our problem

   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

In Texas, any business that sells or leases "tangible personal property" is required to have a Texas sales and use tax permit.

Linky

Also of interest in reference to KK's post here.

9. If the ownership of my business changes, is a new permit needed?
Yes. The new owner must obtain a permit if there are any changes in ownership of your business. Incorporating a business or forming a partnership or limited liability company is considered a change of ownership and must be reported. For example, if you operate a business as a sole proprietor, but decide to incorporate, the corporation will have to obtain a new permit for the business, even though you may operate the business as an officer of the corporation.

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Made in dk
Stormin' Stompa





Do Resin Forge really think they can restore any kind of "good faith", and then run a successful business?

From my point of view they are completely and utterly tarnished by Daniel's bad reputation, and nobody can ever be completely sure that Daniels Mandelbaum's involvement is truly ended.

Too bad, Resin Forge, but you might as well shut down.
Also Resin Forge should take this as a lesson in how to totally feth-up, botch and mishandle any PR situation.



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Made in gb
Feldwebel




Tamworth, UK

Notice yet again, correction to a minor point but still no detail on evidence that they went to the HH weekender?

Strange that, almost.... Mandelbaum like.
   
Made in be
Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator




TERRA

Notice yet again, correction to a minor point but still no detail on evidence that they went to the HH weekender?

Strange that, almost.... Mandelbaum like.


We did press that point again when answering to the mediator about that correction. Will see what the answer is.

   
Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

Guys it is best to stick to the facts as much as possible, do not underestimate how many people come to look at this thread and walk away with the impression we are exaggerating or have no actual evidence. Mandelbaum is absolutely expert at exploiting the tiniest grain of doubt, do not take it as a foregone conclusion that everyone believes 'us' and not RF.

Also remember, above all else, that it is exactly those kinds of people who need the info the most.

   
 
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