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2013/06/27 05:58:27
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Hey guys I just read up on what is going on. I've been out celebrating a birthday.
I'm sorry that the blame has fallen to Dakka and want to make it clear that I do not believe that is was from here, and if it was, that it was not someone of the majority opinion.
Everyone that I have had conversations with, regardless of our differences, have been nothing but polite and kind to me.
I'd like to point out though that my admin access was revoked prior to/at the time of that post so at this point I have no way of removing it or removing the comments from users that threaten and use down right rude/vulgar comments about this forum and others.
Personally the statement I would have made after the death threat is:
**Update 6/26**
Dear Resin Forge fans and friends,
Due to an increase in harassment and threats to my person, I will be shutting down the Resin Forge Store and closing the business. All orders will be fulfilled and any awaiting arrival from Forgeworld will be refunded.
Thank you for all the support and encouragement.
-Kim
Again, that is not what was said, but what I would have said.
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
This is just my unbiased opinion.
Have a goodnight,
Aj
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Hey guys I just read up on what is going on. I've been out celebrating a birthday.
I'm sorry that the blame has fallen to Dakka and want to make it clear that I do not believe that is was from here, and if it was, that it was not someone of the majority opinion.
Everyone that I have had conversations with, regardless of our differences, have been nothing but polite and kind to me.
I'd like to point out though that my admin access was revoked prior to/at the time of that post so at this point I have no way of removing it or removing the comments from users that threaten and use down right rude/vulgar comments about this forum and others.
Personally the statement I would have made after the death threat is:
**Update 6/26**
Dear Resin Forge fans and friends,
Due to an increase in harassment and threats to my person, I will be shutting down the Resin Forge Store and closing the business. All orders will be fulfilled and any awaiting arrival from Forgeworld will be refunded.
Thank you for all the support and encouragement.
-Kim
Again, that is not what was said, but what I would have said.
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
This is just my unbiased opinion.
Have a goodnight,
Aj
So there's that. AJ is no longer tied to the sinking ship, and good for him.
This has honestly been the weirdest 2 months. Tolkien himself couldn't write fiction this far out.
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2013/06/27 06:10:41
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
So wait, a shop that already closed... Is closing again? That's like saying the ship that sunk is sinking again.
What's with the warrants thing?
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2013/06/27 06:15:52
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
ExiledMiniatures wrote: .
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
It is really just the pretty normal and usual Daniel Mandelbaum style of post, nothing unexpected or surprising really.
Now I do hope that you have a great Resin Forge free stay here at Dakka (the cesspool of the wargaming community) and I am looking forward to seeing some of your great work that I have been hearing about.
2013/06/27 06:19:36
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
ExiledMiniatures wrote: .
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
It is really just the pretty normal and usual Daniel Mandelbaum style of post, nothing unexpected or surprising really.
Now I do hope that you have a great Resin Forge free stay here at Dakka (the cesspool of the wargaming community) and I am looking forward to seeing some of your great work that I have been hearing about.
Seconded! I really would like to see the Painting and Modelling blog you hinted at - If the stuff in it looks as good as the mini in you avatar you have a fan in me!
Welcome to the cesspool!
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2013/06/27 06:25:53
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
ExiledMiniatures wrote: .
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
It is really just the pretty normal and usual Daniel Mandelbaum style of post, nothing unexpected or surprising really.
Now I do hope that you have a great Resin Forge free stay here at Dakka (the cesspool of the wargaming community) and I am looking forward to seeing some of your great work that I have been hearing about.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: .
Now since I wasn't there, I am assuming that the post was made directly after the threat when emotions would be high and some unreasonable judgments may have been made.
It is really just the pretty normal and usual Daniel Mandelbaum style of post, nothing unexpected or surprising really.
Now I do hope that you have a great Resin Forge free stay here at Dakka (the cesspool of the wargaming community) and I am looking forward to seeing some of your great work that I have been hearing about.
Seconded! I really would like to see the Painting and Modelling blog you hinted at - If the stuff in it looks as good as the mini in you avatar you have a fan in me!
Welcome to the cesspool!
See, if you're a real person, and you have nice minis, Dakka people aren't so bad after all. Welcome to the cesspool! PS watch out for the kronk
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2013/06/27 06:33:12
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
RF can 'blame' Dakka all they want. I don't feel there's any reason to believe there was a 'death threat' over the phone, but that sounds like a better story than saying the want to go to ground again because they don't like their names, addresses, marriage, criminal records and everything else exposed and tied to their 'business'.
2013/06/27 06:35:24
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
In case you are interested William T (AJ) has a public photo bucket. He can correct me if I am wrong but back in the early 2000's he posted on Warseer as Kayamotsu.
http://m372.photobucket.com/albums/WarForgeStudios I know it's sort of OT but I thought some of the thread followers might find it an interesting diversion.
Automatically Appended Next Post: ROFL...warn him about Kronk but don't tell him to watch his two hole...
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2013/06/27 06:55:51
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
I'm sorry that the blame has fallen to Dakka and want to make it clear that I do not believe that is was from here, and if it was, that it was not someone of the majority opinion.
Yeah... A "company" without any verifiable registration or license and which did its best to avoid even admitting the city that they are operating out (let alone a street or other contact info) now claims that somebody got their secret home number, that is SO believable. Nice try DM/KH/ SH, that's even dumber than your usual silliness. So how did people get your secret home number to make these "death threats"? Was it the anti-Jewish-German-NSA-Prism connection of Lexicanum or Dakka? Yeah, I think it must have been that.
By the way, you remember that time on reddit when you threatened to beat the crap out of people because they didn't like your minis? Yeah, we heard they are now aware of where you are, have fun with them, they seemed quite eager for getting into contact, did you happen to give them your phone nunmber?
Otherwise see you in a couple of days when it turns out that all continues as before. And by the way: the readers LOVED your video. Don't be surprised if the next calls are marriage proposals. Probably not the most sane people in the world, but hey, if you are single as you say you shouldn't be too choosy nowadays
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MajorTom11 wrote: Guys, ever think to look in the painting and modeling section or check AJs posted threads? You may find some very nice stuff...
I certainly did, actually, just earlier. I didn't want to thread rez, but ohmygod that Deathwing Terminator is just plain gorgeous. Gorrrgeeeous.
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2013/06/27 08:15:58
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
i cant see the point of a death threat, it just be a waste of ammo anyway.
Just had a look on the RF page, and i wonder how many of the faithfull fans have really bothered to look at this thread and read it for themselfs
2013/06/27 08:29:08
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
fynn wrote: i cant see the point of a death threat, it just be a waste of ammo anyway.
Just had a look on the RF page, and i wonder how many of the faithfull fans have really bothered to look at this thread and read it for themselfs
None. Apparently we eat children and destroy honest businesses.
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2013/06/27 08:40:32
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
fynn wrote: i cant see the point of a death threat, it just be a waste of ammo anyway.
Just had a look on the RF page, and i wonder how many of the faithfull fans have really bothered to look at this thread and read it for themselfs
None. Apparently we eat children and destroy honest businesses.
We're all also, apparently, professional detectives and hitmen.
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2013/06/27 08:45:51
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Just had a look on the RF page, and i wonder how many of the faithfull fans have really bothered to look at this thread and read it for themselfs
For most of them reading already seems to be a challenge, so not a lot it seems. And even if it would just be anti-sect propaganda
As for the quality of RF's followers, this post is rather amusing:
Language warning
Spoiler:
"Mike Hawkins shared Resin Forge Store's photo.
This is complete bs, GW has ruined yet another awesome miniature company with their petty insecure asses. It takes more than one company to make the hobby, you greedy bastards!!!!!"
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Well then it's true. GW can be blamed for anything gaming related. You may want to photoshop that to remove the swearing though, since the filter can't do that for you, or else you'll be breaking the rules of the forum.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2013/06/27 08:52:10
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Sooooo now Dakka is a front for GW? Like a fifth (or in Kronk's case filth) column?
Wow.
This is a sideshow - Kim has now mutated back into Daniel. If 'she' had intended to make a go of things, then the attitude shown was never going to work.
Yet again Daniel shows his true colours. Yes there are threads on other 'scam' sites, but given that the sites in question get shut down pretty quickly once exposed, they don't need 200+ posts to expose them (ie one of the sites isn't available in the UK hence I don't comment).
Dan, you read this thread A LOT. Honestly, give it up. Wherever you pop up, there's a community which will expose your little get rich quick tries, and won't let up until you realise we're not all patsy's for your entertainment and profit.
2013/06/27 09:12:15
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
I don't know who is denser: the operator(s) or the followers... But they are both entertaining You think they all learned English from the same person?
Tallon Amaya
I fined it atrocious of you accusing me of these accusation you have said about me and i am still waiting on proof of these allegations of me being (racist rants, bodily threats, lies on end etc?) you still haven't proven anything, so if these are Recorded then you shouldn't have a problem posting this proof? just a dog with its tail between its legs. Marcus Kesler are you not D-USA from dakka?
Inquisitor S. wrote: I don't know who is denser: the operator(s) or the followers... But they are both entertaining You think they all learned English from the same person?
Tallon Amaya
I fined it atrocious of you accusing me of these accusation you have said about me and i am still waiting on proof of these allegations of me being (racist rants, bodily threats, lies on end etc?) you still haven't proven anything, so if these are Recorded then you shouldn't have a problem posting this proof? just a dog with its tail between its legs. Marcus Kesler are you not D-USA from dakka?
His FB page has been around since 2010, and is mostly public. Going by his posts he definetly has some opinions about Israel. And the US government. Doesn't seem to be a fan of either. He may well be a real person, just a conspiracy theory loving one. RF are also 'friends' he 'just made'.
2013/06/27 10:43:57
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Enigwolf wrote: We're all also, apparently, professional detectives and hitmen.
To be fair, the only proven record of someone hiring mercenaries to deal with his opponent in this conflict is Daniel Mandelbaum hiring BritCon and then claiming he mistook German mercenaries for US lawyers
Thinking about it, Resin Forge should restart as AmeriCon and hire Daniel for conversion work, as their AmeriCon artist
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I like the use of first person pronouns, we never made accusations about Tallon Amaya
Yeah, he seems to have trouble with understanding written text. But what he lacks in understanding he makes up in spreading RF's newest "being the victim" show. Here at bitzbox.
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Yeah that's a dang shame, I think it's because its a small business owner "defending" another small business owner.
Also, Tallon if you're reading this, can you please say where death threats were made via email? A phone call, unless recorded, is tough to prove it happened but an email is a paper trail. If Stephanie was threatened via email where is the email?
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2013/06/27 11:30:11
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Alfndrate wrote: Yeah that's a dang shame, I think it's because its a small business owner "defending" another small business owner.
Also, Tallon if you're reading this, can you please say where death threats were made via email? A phone call, unless recorded, is tough to prove it happened but an email is a paper trail. If Stephanie was threatened via email where is the email?
I agree, it'd be interesting to see who sent it, and how it's from dakka.
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