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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

Hogun wrote:
Plus AJ would think it would be a great idea if you post on the RF facebook page about your situation with them and that while posting in the Dakkadakk forums, it was all friendly and we aren't baby eaters or a Nazi hate page etc.

I don't think that we need to solicit people to go and post about Dakka on our behalf. This thread is available for anyone who wished to read it and I think it shows that we are not just the caricature that has been presented.


(please place the word "allegedly" in any place you deem appropriate )

Thats all fine and good but he still may want to let his case be known on their page, it seems like he said he would be helping out and now hes had his admin rights or whatever removed and people may think a legit person like AJ is the one still posting, and after all the ALLEGED identities DM has taken its probably a good idea to let people know hes not affiliated with them anymore.

Has anyone tried to contact AJ through FB?

It may be the case that AJ has made a post regarding his status as a moderator, but that RF pulled it before we became aware of it.

I'm not saying that this has happened, merely that it is a possibility.

It may be the case that AJ has made a post regarding his status as a moderator, but that RF pulled it before we became aware of it.

Then he *could* still post here or on his personal FB page.

When was the last time he posted here, anyway?

AJ was on here yesterday, in the Exiled Miniatures P&M WIP blog...
seems he's sticking with Dakka, and washed his hands of the RF madness...
not to put words in the guy's mouth, but it seems he would like to forget the whole thing, which is completely understandable...

so, what's RF's next move going to be???
open, closed, selling on the down-low???
is Kimanie just a mouthpiece, or just as insane as Daniel???

just when it seems like they've given up, a week later, it's back to the same BS...
these guys waffle more than a Sunday morning at Waffle House...

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:

so, what's RF's next move going to be???
open, closed, selling on the down-low???
is Kimanie just a mouthpiece, or just as insane as Daniel???

Lots of speculation on your first two questions on the last 2 pages, but my guess was:

THEY will keep posting updates like "We're getting the paper work together" then delay with "Well, we're looking into registering as ___" all the while saying, in the mean time, you can PM me orders...

That's a guess.

They'll continue that while they thing there is money to be had with their remaining inventory. Meanwhile, they're probably making a new business, trying to learn from this one and not get caught.

As for question 3, I'm not sure. Probably just a mouth piece. A fair amount of the FB posting has Daniel's trademark misspellings, knee jerk reactions, and rage.

 kronk wrote:
They'll continue that while they thing there is money to be had with their remaining inventory. Meanwhile, they're probably making a new business, trying to learn from this one and not get caught.

Might be difficult if they surface with a new venture that has a significant inventory of FW stuff

 kronk wrote:
As for question 3, I'm not sure. Probably just a mouth piece. A fair amount of the FB posting has Daniel's trademark misspellings, knee jerk reactions, and rage.

And obfuscation, and victim card playing (allegedly)

Original post redacted.

 Enigwolf wrote:
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Not sure how comfortable I am with that comparison

I'm actually not at all comfortable with it, given their alleged criminal activities.

I wish people would stop bringing it up.

...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

 Enigwolf wrote:
...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

I appreciate you trying to make a distinction between the two groups, but given the hostile attitude that some groups may habour towards Dakka such a comparison may be more harmful than beneficial.

 Enigwolf wrote:
...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

It is best to leave any hint of that kind of stuff out entirely.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:
...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

It is best to leave any hint of that kind of stuff out entirely.

Agreed. I would like to think what we are doing here is more a Consumers Report/Yelp type service for people.

 ProtoClone wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:
...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

It is best to leave any hint of that kind of stuff out entirely.

Agreed. I would like to think what we are doing here is more a Consumers Report/Yelp type service for people.

Right - and just to be clear, what I posted wasn't a suggestion.

 Alpharius wrote:

 ProtoClone wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Enigwolf wrote:
...Hence why I used, "kinda like", and not "WE ARE". Semantics, semantics...

It is best to leave any hint of that kind of stuff out entirely.

Agreed. I would like to think what we are doing here is more a Consumers Report/Yelp type service for people.

Right - and just to be clear, what I posted wasn't a suggestion.

A bit off topic but can't there be a special MOD only color put into place so we know when something is official MOD speak as opposed to a MOD being in a conversation. It really would help, especially in threads like this where MODs are so heavily involved.

I've since deleted my own post after thinking about it. Yeah, you guys are right (Particularly Deadclaw69).

OverwatchCNC - I know a lot of mods like to use red to denote that.

I've removed the now deleted content from my own post too

 Enigwolf wrote:
I've since deleted my own post after thinking about it. Yeah, you guys are right (Particularly Deadclaw69).

OverwatchCNC - I know a lot of mods like to use red to denote that.

I know, I just think something official and universal would be a good addition to the MOD team.

It's red.

See? Don't I 'sound' modly now?

 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's red.

See? Don't I 'sound' modly now?

Yes... Especially when I saw the name was the last post in the thread... I I was like, "uh oh... mod voice D:"

 MajorTom11 wrote:
It's red.

See? Don't I 'sound' modly now?

So many answers, so little time.... :-D

Going by past behaviour, Datthew Mandlebonder & Kimanie will be posting shortly I would suggest.... wonder what joys they will bring? What new excuse?

For me, it is orange - always has been, always will be.

Additionally, I think by now it has to be quite obvious what should and should not be said, suggested, hinted at, etc.

 Alpharius wrote:
For me, it is orange - always has been, always will be.(allegedly)

Additionally, I think by now it has to be quite obvious what should and should not be said, suggested, hinted at, etc.

Fixed that for you.

I wouldn't be surprised if DM already has plans toward a new site. Now what he SHOULD do, is register it legally and operate openly if he's going to try and make this little idea of his stick. It would protect him, as well as any buyers. Then again he should have done that in the first place.

Fortunately, he's not that bright, so his next site will fall as easily as this one did.

[Mod Kilkrazy] When I make a moderation post I either highlight it with red, or append [Mod] or use one of my morale boosting pictures.

Am I the only one who sees the humor in the fact that the mods discussing how they remind people that they're off topic is, in fact, off topic?

LOL

Eric

You're just not thinking meta enough, MM.

MM you are under a mistaken impression here.

Off-topic is when the conversation takes a turn that no longer serves the topic. A user asked, in reference to a very on-topic and particularly touchy line of thought, how they could know if a Mod was being 'official'. This was clarified by multiple Mods, so that the conversation can continue on under clearer terms. It wasn't off the rails, it was pulling off the road for a second to gas up so the journey could continue.

It is the Mods ultimate responsibility to determine what off-topic is, and I personally dislike it when a user decides to speak with authority about how a Mod interprets the rules. We are entrusted/burdened with the responsibility of making these calls as we see best in order to keep things moving smoothly. When you decide your interpretation trumps ours, it is not only incorrect by definition, it also undermines and diminishes the hard work, time and effort put in. I don't need a thank you from anyone, but I would appreciate a modicum of deference to the team in the only area we should have it, the rules.

I hope that clarifies both the 'gas stop' and also why you may have mistakenly offered some minor disrespect. I know you do the job over in your neck of the woods, I would have thought you of all people would understand how it would be taken.

Now that everything is all cleaned up, unless I am mistaken there has been no real activity for a few days? Some of you are implying communication is ongoing with them and that they are still taking PM orders, is this true?

Also, it goes without saying, our collective bits searching is pretty massive I would imagine, now would be the time to keep an eye out for 'Mandelbaum Type' new bits/conversion vendors. This is not to say any action should be taken or harassment mind, just saying now is the time to be vigilant, as historically it has been less than a month between the collapse of one illegitimate business to the opening of the next.

My apologies but, both in my neck of the woods and here on Dakka, it is traditionally acknowledged to be a joke/humorous comment and not one to be taken seriously when someone adds a smiley, a "LOL," or something similar. That is why I ensured that I ended the post with one. Monster Rain seemed to have 'gotten it.'

If you think I'd "[decide] to speak with authority about how a Mod interprets the rules" or that I think "[my] interpretation trumps [yours]" you really don't know me or what I'm about. The site staff on ANY site is the final arbiter of the rules and, even if I DID have an actual complaint with their actions/decisions, I'd take it private.

There's no need to call me out and give me a lashing. Just note the "LOL" and see that it's a joke. No disrespect was offered, either knowingly or mistakenly, it was just taken.

I agree, of course, that it is time to watch out for a new endeavor from MandelBonder, but I fear that it might not be as easy. Although he shows a history of inability to learn from his mistakes, my concern is that he eventually WILL.
My suspicions are that he will, at most, move to eBay for a while, keeping as low a profile as is possible. I suspect it will be a while before we see anything as "in your face" as a "company" with a public face.

Eric