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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 13:30:00
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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In the wargear entry for the BA assault sergeant it states "the sergeant can replace his bolt pisto/chainsword with: hand flamer, pp, infernus pistols, pw, LC, SS, PF, TH"
In all other cases in the BA dex the sergeant entry reads as follows: the sergeant can replace his bolt gun and/or his chainsword with the following:
Does this mean that the assault sergeant can only replace one of his two weapons? Is this a typical GW editing/wording error, hence the assault sergeant CAN replace both bolt pistol AND chainsword?
My opinion is that he can replace both. How useless would a SS be if all you can take with it is a bolt pistol?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/17 13:51:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 15:22:23
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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You can replace both if you wish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 15:34:52
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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I assure you it is the same as the rest just our spiritual liege made a typo that wasn't picked up by the editor.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/17 15:35:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 17:42:43
Subject: Re:BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Thanks, that saves me ripping off plastic glued in arms in painted marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 19:08:38
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Dakka Veteran
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Since it says bolt pistol/chainsword I say no. The "/" clearly means or. It does not mean and/or, which is something that is said in many of the entries around the book, such as in the Death Company entry above it...
I feel sorry for bringing up another problem for blood angels players in a different discussion - even if it is factual. You all have pretty rough right now and I'll let this slide in a game against you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 22:19:43
Subject: Re:BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Actually, the slash can mean and/or in English - it's dependent on context. As to which applies here...well, the poll results appear to speak for themselves...
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 00:26:13
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Dakka Veteran
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I disagree about your interpretation of what the slash means since it does not mean that in any other codex and just because people agree to something doesn't make them right. I would argue that the rest of the codex, which has examples of the proper and/or being used, serves as precident in this regard. That is RAW of course. People are welcome to house-rule as they please.
Edit: It could be a GW error, but to call it such would be RAI not RAW.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/18 00:46:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 02:13:59
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can someone check the BA codex -specifically the section where they describe using the army list entries. I only have the Daemon codex on me but in this version it describes options as:
When an option states that you may exchange one weapon 'and/or' another, you may replace either, neither, or both provided you pay the points cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 02:21:26
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Dakka Veteran
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It specifically says "bolt pistol/chainsword" rather than "bolt pistol and/or chainsword" like it does for DC (as an example on the same page).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 11:00:55
Subject: Re:BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Ok, I've checked the Codex. Strict RAW, the argument holds true - page 81 only holds reference to "and/or" specifically, it doesn't mention just a single "/".
However - RAI wise, there's a convincing argument on page 73 where we're shown a Sergeant with a power axe and infernus pistol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 12:35:21
Subject: BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You can exchange both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 12:41:38
Subject: Re:BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Super Ready wrote:Actually, the slash can mean and/or in English - it's dependent on context. As to which applies here...well, the poll results appear to speak for themselves...
The slash means either.. or not and.. or.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 13:11:43
Subject: Re:BA assault sergeants and their wargear options.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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It depends on context. Though admittedly - the way the other Codex entries are written means context falls on the "either" side which I should have realised. :p
To be more specific, it can mean "and/or" when used in list format, and referring to terms that aren't mutually exclusive.
For instance:
"Before you board the aircraft, ensure you declare any liquids/sharp objects/narcotics/teddy bears/overgrown aubergines you may be carrying."
Declaring a teddy bear wouldn't exempt you from declaring any overgrown aubergines.
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