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this question may have been asked already or it might be common knowledge, but i can't find it anywhere. it has been bugging me for a while now. please help me Dakka, what is the emperors name? surely he has a real name, not just a title.

This may not be current fluff, but its been alluded to that he is all of the significant figures throughout human history, so he is conceivably Jesus, King Arthur, Ghengis Khan, Buddha etc etc

I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

Satan haha LL nice one as always. I was gonna say Hans for unknown reasons, but that name isn't embarrassing enough.

I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

Palpatine. Gotta be.....

His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

 Troike wrote:
I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

In Prospero burns it explains that when a daemon knows your name it has power over you to control you or take away your power, hence the reason no one can never know the Emperors true name.

So while he could of gone hundred's of names know one can know his real name.

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

RotFL.

BTW: Caesar is appropriate for the Emprah in my opinion. That or August, since they built an awesome empire which, after their death (Caesar was killed by his son, Brutus... Empy and Horus anyone?), started to crawl because the politicians were corrupted (High Lords of Terra).

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

That changes my whole perspective.

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

RotFL.

BTW: Caesar is appropriate for the Emprah in my opinion. That or August, since they built an awesome empire which, after their death (Caesar was killed by his son, Nerone... Empy and Horus anyone?), started to crawl because the politicians were corrupted (High Lords of Terra).

Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

It could be Cartagia.....See how he was fixated on Godhood.....how would Londo fit in....

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

And if the Emprah was, in fact, the last reincarnation of the Doctor :O?

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

I'm willing to believe you joked, but then again telling that about Nero who acted rather heroically during the fire is something else. Then again Roman Emperors had a nasty tendency to go insane.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

I'm willing to believe you joked, but then again telling that about Nero who acted rather heroically during the fire is something else. Then again Roman Emperors had a nasty tendency to go insane.

I made a mistake. A huge mistake. Dunno why, but I did. I didn't say that Nero whas a bad emperor, I said that he burned down a christian sector of Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Rome<- the Great Fire of Rome. Yes, Nero paid with his own funds, but many historians believe that was him who set up everything.

Him taking the sites as an expansion of his imperial palace have most to do with the rumors as I don't believe them myself, but remember you have an insane emperor of Rome here.

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

And if the Emprah was, in fact, the last reincarnation of the Doctor :O?

Be warned, spoilers...

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

That about sums up my thoughts on the subject.

In the novel Pariah

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

Clearly his name is For. The say "For, the Emperor" many more times than "In, the name of the Emperor". In is just a nickname

He's also heavily alluded to be St. George the Dragon-slayer.

 LoneLictor wrote:

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

It's the one on the Lexicanum, so I guess it's the most canon one there is.

The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

 Troike wrote:

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

Spoiler:

Oooh, so he does have an actual name?

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

At the moment, it's too early to know.

I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being left unclear as to whether he does or not, otherwise we might be skating a bit too close to altering ancient fluff...

BTW, if you're going to read it, it's worth reading Eisenhorn and Ravenor first.

Liam Pourer, it was just heard incorrectly.

 Troike wrote:

 LoneLictor wrote:

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

It's the one on the Lexicanum, so I guess it's the most canon one there is.

The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

He is a fusion of all of humanity's first psykers. He has their memories, not their personalities. His power is also greater than the sum of his parts.

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

Spoiler:

Oooh, so he does have an actual name?

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:


The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

He is a fusion of all of humanity's first psykers. He has their memories, not their personalities. His power is also greater than the sum of his parts.

I know, I was just continuing Lone Lictor's focus on personality to address his point about multiple personalities. Probably shoud've pointed that out.

Pretty sure his name is "Jimmy Ray"

Carl Sagan.