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2013/05/22 12:42:32
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Roarin' Runtherd
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Just a question, if I run commander farsight as my hq as an allied force, do I need to have him with his Farsight enclave type scheme and soldiers etc. or can I just run him the same way you would with a normal commander. 
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2013/05/22 13:40:32
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Dakka Veteran
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There are almost no "Farsight Enclave" rules in the new codex. Farsight can be accompanied by a larger bodyguard regardless of whether he's an ally or primary - that's it.
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2013/05/23 12:41:18
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Roarin' Runtherd
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Ok thank God! Couse i was thinking that limitations would stuff it up... Awesome thanks 
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2013/05/23 12:56:43
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Dakka Veteran
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Dont forget you need a single troops choice, so your allies will quickly cost in the 1200s depending on the size you are going for.
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2013/05/23 13:53:59
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Pyrian wrote:There are almost no "Farsight Enclave" rules in the new codex.
This is completely and utterly false
the rules for the 7-man bodyguard squad is the farsight enclave.
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2013/05/23 13:57:42
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Scipio Africanus wrote:Pyrian wrote:There are almost no "Farsight Enclave" rules in the new codex.
This is completely and utterly false the rules for the 7-man bodyguard squad is the farsight enclave.
Note that the poster did not say there were no enclave rules.. However it appears the original poster is actually talking about the Breakaway Faction special rule that Farsight used to have (which was what originally allowed a 7-man Bodyguard team).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/23 13:58:35
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/05/23 13:58:15
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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 Happyjew wrote: Scipio Africanus wrote:Pyrian wrote:There are almost no "Farsight Enclave" rules in the new codex.
This is completely and utterly false
the rules for the 7-man bodyguard squad is the farsight enclave.
Correct. However it appears the original poster is actually talking about the Breakaway Faction special rule that Farsight used to have (which was what originally allowed a 7-man Bodyguard team).
I was being silly, but I concede and agree.
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2013/05/23 13:59:27
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Dang. Was hoping to get that edit in before anybody else had a chance to notice.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/05/23 14:01:19
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Happyjew wrote:Dang. Was hoping to get that edit in before anybody else had a chance to notice.
I have too much time on my hands.
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2013/05/23 14:13:24
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't get it. 
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2013/05/23 14:18:35
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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In the 4th edition codex, Farsight had a special rule called "Breakaway Faction". This made Crisis Suits 1+, you could not take Ethereals, or non Tau (except Drones I believe) and Farsight's Bodyguard could have 7 models instead of 2. In the new codex they got rid of everything except the Bodyguard model count (which is now called "Farsight's Enclave). Scipio knows the OP was talking about the old rule, and then claimed that you (Pyrian) were wrong about there being almost no Farsight Enclave rules (which he is wrong about, as you said almost none, which implies there are just incredibly few (ie 1)).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/23 14:18:46
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/05/23 15:07:43
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Not worth listening to.  Automatically Appended Next Post: Happyjew wrote:In the 4th edition codex, Farsight had a special rule called "Breakaway Faction". This made Crisis Suits 1+, you could not take Ethereals, or non Tau (except Drones I believe) and Farsight's Bodyguard could have 7 models instead of 2. In the new codex they got rid of everything except the Bodyguard model count (which is now called "Farsight's Enclave). Scipio knows the OP was talking about the old rule, and then claimed that you (Pyrian) were wrong about there being almost no Farsight Enclave rules (which he is wrong about, as you said almost none, which implies there are just incredibly few (ie 1)).
There are som pretty accusatory statements in there, scale it back so I don't look like an evil guy with a handlebar moustache next time.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/23 15:09:03
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2013/05/23 15:34:21
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Scipio, the only things I accused you of were:
A) knowing the OP was talking about the old rule (which if either is not true I apologize)
B) saying Pyrian was wrong about there being almost no rules for Farsight Enclaves.
Pyrian said that there are almost no rules. You said he was wrong. The fact is there is 1 rule (which can easily be read as almost none). My original post said you were correct, but then I re-read Pyrian post that you said was wrong.
Finally, what is wrong with the handlebar mustache? Granted the Fu Manchu is way cooler but...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/23 15:34:36
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/05/23 15:39:07
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Fixture of Dakka
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The part I find interesting, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that bodyguards are a separate unit. It isn't really a concern, they don't disadvantage you in any real sense by being separate from your HQ and can actually make some interesting gimmicks because of it. I just bring it up because nearly every other bodyguard choice in multiple codex's are upgrades to the existing HQ and not their own units.
It is just... interesting.
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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2013/05/23 16:06:37
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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The Hive Mind
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JinxDragon wrote:I just bring it up because nearly every other bodyguard choice in multiple codex's are upgrades to the existing HQ and not their own units.
That's just not true. The only one that is that way that I can think of is IG, and only in the Command Squad where the HQ is not an IC.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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2013/05/23 19:10:14
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Making Stuff
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Yeah, bodyguards as upgrades for the HQ unit went away a long time ago. From memory, Black Templars would be the last codex that would apply to. Everyone that has been updated since then gets retinues as a separate unit.
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2013/05/23 20:46:41
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow, that really dates some of these codex's my friend has laying around then...
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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2013/05/23 21:49:32
Subject: Tau - this is going to sound very stupid.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Happyjew wrote:Scipio, the only things I accused you of were:
A) knowing the OP was talking about the old rule (which if either is not true I apologize)
B) saying Pyrian was wrong about there being almost no rules for Farsight Enclaves.
Pyrian said that there are almost no rules. You said he was wrong. The fact is there is 1 rule (which can easily be read as almost none). My original post said you were correct, but then I re-read Pyrian post that you said was wrong.
Finally, what is wrong with the handlebar mustache? Granted the Fu Manchu is way cooler but...
Handlebars look like they'd tickle when you kissed someone.
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