Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!

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**Rinkydink**

I have to say, this kickstarter is still moving pretty well.

Think I may have to jump in for some Iron Empire and maybe Bernadette too.

**Jimsolo**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:

And I want the Kruganova mascot to be a bear with machine guns.

Aura hopes its a Hyena in a gas mask... she said she'll convert one herself if it isn't.

I'm pro this!

**Valhallan42nd**

I know the Kuragnovas already have a bulldog mascot, but I think -given their were-bear shaman theme- that there might be a better nomination for their mascot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(soldier_bear)

**overtyrant**

Kroothawk wrote:
Everyone is using them for 40k Imperial Guard (or just painting), so the rules are just a bonus.

I'll be using mine for Warpath.

**Valhallan42nd**

overtyrant wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
Everyone is using them for 40k Imperial Guard (or just painting), so the rules are just a bonus.

I'll be using mine for Warpath.

Same idea.

**Minx**

Stompin' with style:
Jailbird Mecha unlocked!

I would like the jailbird power loader even more if the pilot was sunk slightly further into the machine instead of hanging completely in front (although that might be hard to tell from the concept art).
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**Buzzsaw**

Minx wrote:
Stompin' with style:
Jailbird Mecha unlocked!

I would like the jailbird power loader even better if the pilot was sunk slightly more into the machine instead of hanging completely in front (although that might be hard to tell from the concept art).
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I believe that RH has said that their concept artist had limited time and that the mech will be a bit different from how it is shown here. DO let them know about your concerns, they seem to have their won reservations (I distinctly remember seeing a mention that the head in particular was not yet up to what they wanted).

**Minx**

I remember something similar but only found this comment from LnR after a quick visual grep:

quite pose-able, and we've also planned options for other pilot heads in upcoming 'free upgrade' stretch goals

Edit: Perhaps one of the heralds would be kind enough to whisper my preferences concerning the jailbird mecha into RHs all-hearing ears:
"I would like the jailbird power loader even more if the pilot was sunk slightly further into the machine instead of hanging completely in front (although that might be hard to tell from the concept art)". Thank you in advance.
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**Vermillion**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:

And I want the Kruganova mascot to be a bear with machine guns.

Aura hopes its a Hyena in a gas mask... she said she'll convert one herself if it isn't.

Haha that's an awesome idea

overtyrant wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
Everyone is using them for 40k Imperial Guard (or just painting), so the rules are just a bonus.

I'll be using mine for Warpath.

Haven't found sci-fi rules I liked to use em in :( Wondering about deadzone as the scenery looks nice, models look ok but mantic have never really wowed me except the for three werewolves they have coming up

**Alpharius**

Vermillion wrote:

Haven't found sci-fi rules I liked to use em in :( Wondering about deadzone as the scenery looks nice, models look ok but mantic have never really wowed me except the for three werewolves they have coming up

The only way that could have been worse is if you said you loved their Trolls!

**edlowe**

Wow! Is there anyway I can pledge just for that mech!

**prankster**

edlowe wrote:
Wow! Is there anyway I can pledge just for that mech!

There's no pledge level that covers it, but you could just go the route of pledging $50 for the mech and postage. Though for that, its probably worth finding someone else locally and splitting postage, or going in for more figures

**Lansirill**

edlowe wrote:
Wow! Is there anyway I can pledge just for that mech!

Get the Private pledge, add on an extra $15 (+$20 for shipping), and swap the heroine money for support money. It's... kindof needlessly complicated, but I think that's Kickstarter's 'This is not a store.' rule mucking around with things. You could also do First Class (+ shipping), swap 3 $10 heroines for the mech, and then get one extra heroine.

The international shipping makes pledging for just the mech a mediocre deal though, most likely. You'll probably be better off waiting for the retail release.

**edlowe**

Doh that makes my head ache! Il have to wait for retail then, im a sad panda :(

**somewheresomehow**

The Kurganova's mascot is to be an alternate sculpt of Charlie, the bulldog. They really hyped that bulldog sculpt during the lead up to the KS.

Editted: Fixed grammar issues.

**prankster**

Well, for those who are wanting the hippo but aren't pledging at a level to get one / at all, should still be able to get one in future as RH have said that the freebies aren't going to be KS exclusive. Though when that'll be hasn't been mentioned just that they will eventually make their way to retail.

On the subject of information from RH on this, whilst their updates over the past few days have been a welcome change to the first days of the KS I feel that there's still room for improvement when it comes to the timings of updates.

Whilst I appreciate that the last few updates have been quite informative and, some would say, game changing not every update needs to have big things in it. Just a couple of small updates every now and then, that can be thrown up with some new SGs to keep things ticking over whilst they're busy with number crunching / meetings / planning things out further. This would serve to keep people talking about what's coming and mitigate the risk of running out of announced SGs.

Take the current situation, they posted 8 SGs ($335k to $370k) in update 8 on the 9th, followed by a further SG on the 10th ($375k). We've churned through most of those now, with pledges standing at $362,780, but nothing further has been posted and (IIRC) the $375k SG wasn't in the update but has appeared on the front page. A brief update confirming the unlocks and posting a couple of more SGs to work towards would have possibly kept things moving today.

In a similar fashion, the front page of the KS needs a work over a well. There's still outdated images that show figures as locked that aren't, for example Bernadette is showing as the next unlock when further up the page she's showing as unlocked in the large 'poster'.

In summary, they're still doing a good job, but there's room for improvement to keep the momentum of the past couple of days and breeze through the unlocks before the end of the KS.

**PsychoticStorm**

My suggestion for the jailbirds walker was rollbars and heavy Armour on the pilot.

**Lansirill**

A cage around the pilot may make the mech look a lot better. Then again I'm not a huge fan of the power lifter concept, so I'm not terribly concerned about the thing being changed; whatever they do to it I'll still probably be meh. The cage *is* a nice idea though.

**Hurley**

I play in a very casual environment here in Oklahoma I'm going to use these hardcore ladies as an allied guard force for sure cheaper and easier on the eyes. Any word on when these are coming out?

**HisDivineShadow**

I wouldn't mind a cage like the obvious inspiriration that is the Aliens loader. But I don't her armored.

No one cries foul @ Guard Sentinels, with the open cockpit. Its lightly armored. That's the concept.

This whole range is drawing on very iconic visual inspiration. Yeah sure we could up armor the mech, but then the homage would be gone.

There is always going to an argument involved in armor. Take the Nolan origin for the Bat suit. We could probably make something like it IRL. But the cost? Soldiers, historically get just enough equipment to win. No more, no less. That's the economics of war.

**Jimsolo**

Hurley wrote:
I play in a very casual environment here in Oklahoma I'm going to use these hardcore ladies as an allied guard force for sure cheaper and easier on the eyes. Any word on when these are coming out?

Well, the expected ship date is in 2014, so I assume the models will become commercially available sometime after that. They've mentioned shipping them in waves as they become available to the backers.

If you put some money down on the KS, though, then they'll ship them to you hot off the presses! And at a tidy discount.

**Bossk_Hogg**

Minx wrote:
Stompin' with style:
Jailbird Mecha unlocked!

I would like the jailbird power loader even more if the pilot was sunk slightly further into the machine instead of hanging completely in front (although that might be hard to tell from the concept art).
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Why does every one of these walker things have the squishy pilot exposed? Sure, Ripley's claw loader in Aliens didnt have any armor, but that thing was a commercial tool, and she had all of 15 seconds to improvise using it. The jailbirds clearly had enough time to kitbash this and rig up weapon systems, assuming its not military grade by design. Is some sheet metal, armored cockpit or force field too much to ask?

**PsychoticStorm**

She is exposed in front of it, even the sentinel provides some protection, from light arms fire, if you are to field such a machinery and expect it to do something the pilot should be adequately protected, so yes its not a purpose build military vehicle and adding armoured plating or cockpit will probably be too much stress on the machine, giving the pilot a scavenged heavy armour is not a bad solution or a stretch to the design.

**Ouze**

I think it works best if you think of it less as "a dreadnought" and more as "a way to carry heavy, crew-served weapons into battle with only a single operator". In other words, something dropping ordnance from a great deal away, from rocket pods they can't carry themselves when they don't otherwise have vehicles to mount them on (or said vehicles won't work due to terrain).

**gohkm**

That scavenged look should be fairly easy to achieve, with a bit of elbow grease, wouldn't it? It doesn't seem a far stretch from, say, converting an Ork Battlewagon.

I quite like the Jailbird Mech. Might go back into this, albeit at a greatly reduced pledge, just for the Mech. The homage to Aliens is really hitting my nostalgia buttons.

I'm quite looking forward to the Iron Empire and Kurganova Mechs, now.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Trucking right along to unlock little Harry, who better be hauling decent beer.

Another RH response:

Wolfwings asked me a question, and I' thought I'd share my reply with you.
Question: ""How does the drop point affects postage?" and "Is it possible to take multiple pledges at one adress to save the postage?Cause you know, Major and Lt. postage rate is the same and we hate the post...""
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ANSWER:"The drop ship programme does NOT affect postage. The drop points will mean that people can get their rewards in several waves, instead of waiting for everything to be ready at once.
As for combining pledges to a single address, we cannot discount the shipping costs on that for a simple reason. Right now, we barely break even on shipping for pledges up to about 350 Euros or so. Anything more expensive than that means that we are paying the extra postage ourselves. Please keep in mind that high pledges mean heavy packages. Our regular shipping cost for our online shop is 9.90 Euros for Shipping with Tracking, which is over $13. But that's for orders that are usually under $150, and where we already actually subsidize a good chunk of the shipping costs. But in the Kickstarter, the pledges will often be for much higher than 150$ and because all the minis in the KS are discounted, that does not leave us any room to pay for the extra shipping costs ourselves, or subsidize them.
Also, we spoke to many other Kickstarter project creators who ALL told us they lose A LOT of money because of underestimated shipping costs. So we have to be very careful with that.
We worked hard to find the best possible options for everyone, and we were able to drop our shipping costs by half compared to our intial estimates. Also, for anybody outside the US, our shipping costs are quite competitive with other KS (if not downright better). And often, US shipping costs are actually built into the price of the rewards, but we chose to be transparent and not to proceed this way.
The other thing that has to be factored in is the picking and packing costs. If we were actually able to save a few pennies on shipping, this would go towards picking and packing because right now, given the many different miniatures that will be included in each pledge, and given that all those pledges are all going to be different, it's going to be a very labour-intensive job to prepare them, and since we're keeping the production in Europe and the US, then the labour costs are significant...
Furthermore, on packing, we do extensive quality control, and we are known for packing our minis very carefully to avoid breakage... And that also has a cost...
I hope this helps :-)

**PsychoticStorm**

Thats the story I have heard from many kickstarters and frankly I do believe it myself, it makes sense.

**-iPaint-**

I have no qualms paying for postage if it's reasonable. For the pledge level I'm currently at, it's about 6.25% of the total cost for shipping. Since I'm not paying a sales tax, I'm fine paying a bit more.

Looking forward to new updates for the $380k+ goals. I think now or tomorrow would be a good time to show another render, possibly of IE or Jailbirds troopers.

~iPaint

**Minx**

Freebie #4 or rather FreeBie(r) 4 everyone

**RiTides**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
My suggestion for the jailbirds walker was rollbars and heavy Armour on the pilot.

Lansirill wrote:
A cage around the pilot may make the mech look a lot better. Then again I'm not a huge fan of the power lifter concept, so I'm not terribly concerned about the thing being changed; whatever they do to it I'll still probably be meh. The cage *is* a nice idea though.

HisDivineShadow wrote:
I wouldn't mind a cage like the obvious inspiriration that is the Aliens loader. But I don't her armored.

No one cries foul @ Guard Sentinels, with the open cockpit. Its lightly armored. That's the concept.

Please, a cage, roll bars, something. That's worse than the walkers in the third Matrix movie*... and that's saying something.

*Note, I loved those walkers... but the not the unarmored pilots when they were clearly meant for combat. Without roll bars, or Any protection here... just ugh!