Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!

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**lennymaybe**

At the moment I'm in for lieutenant, but I'll definitely be re-evaluating that closer to the end. I know roughly what I want, and my final pledge will probably be a lot higher, but I can't work out exactly what pledge level I need until I know what will be available. The way the pledge levels are set up really doesn't give me incentive to increase until the end, and to be honest it's a bit frustrating.

As for having the option for paying extra to get stuff shipped in waves, that's definitely something I am in favor of.

**BrookM**

You could always try asking your local store to become part of the dropship program, though I do wonder what the actual incentives are for these stores.

**Herzlos**

I'm in the same boat; I want to support it and only really want a few minis to paint or pad out my guard army with. The freebie / sweet spot is fairly high after postage and probably includes more minis than I actually want.

As it progresses, I'm assuming there will be more freebies making it seem more valuable, in which case I'll stay in if I like them.

But I'm wary about that after the Reaper kickstarter where I bought in due to the huge amount of freebies even though I know I have no use for 95% of them, but they were just too cheap to pass up.

**BrookM**

I'm still kicking myself over missing out on the Reaper campaign, all them extra minis.. I'm sure a use could be found for all of them eventually!

**Azazelx**

What's the "sweet spot"? That is, what should I pledge to make sure I get the freebies?
The "sweet spot" gives you access to all the freebies that will be unlocked during the Kickstarter. This is available to anyone who pledges at LIEUTENANT BOX level and higher pledge levels.

Freebies have not been announced yet, but for example, you may expect to see an alternate version of Charlie, the Kurganovas' war bulldog (original one shown here: http://bit.ly/kurganovas ).

**Makaleth**

BrookM wrote:
For me personally the sweet spot is too damn high in, plus it penalizes people who are in it not for an army, but just want a few of the characters.

It's not that the sweet spot is too high me thinks, it's that you want free stuff at $40. Not quite the same thing. Given there are already 5+ free things and more to come I think they put it in the right spot (give or take $20)

**Azazelx**

Sweet spots are usually at $90-150. This one is from $150 + $20ish post (if you got the initial EB in the opening seconds) up to $160 + $20ish post if you want it now. So Basically $180.

Of course, the freebies/extras lists for the more successful KS campaigns tend to be a touch more expansive than what we see above... I'm sure the RH figures listed there will pretty much be subjectively better than most anything that Mantic puts out for DZ, but a few more wouldn't go astray...

**BrookM**

Makaleth wrote:
BrookM wrote:
For me personally the sweet spot is too damn high in, plus it penalizes people who are in it not for an army, but just want a few of the characters.

It's not that the sweet spot is too high me thinks, it's that you want free stuff at $40. Not quite the same thing. Given there are already 5+ free things and more to come I think they put it in the right spot (give or take $20)

I said, it's too high for me personally, I haven't been crying out for freebies, I'm just saying, if you're building an army, you're golden, if you are in it for just a few minis, like I am, that's bad luck.

**Ouze**

Why not pool with someone else and divide it up?

**BrookM**

My friends are all Dutch and alas, all cheapskates.

Nah, I've asked around, but they all like the chunky GW plastics. I think it might be time to find new friends.

I might check with some friends across the ~~Pond~~ Channel, I meant the Channel.

**Herzlos**

BrookM wrote:
I'm still kicking myself over missing out on the Reaper campaign, all them extra minis.. I'm sure a use could be found for all of them eventually!

I'm starting to kick myself for going into it; yes the stuff was seriously cheap, but I've got into 3 new games since the KS ended so I'm already overloaded with figures. As such I'm wary of investing in another batch of figures that'll turn up in a years time. I'll barely have gotten the reaper stuff open by then

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I think what's worrying me most is that one of the key creatives (and owner) clearly has medical issues that could kill his ability to work on the project

we had him having to go to the doctor just after launch, and now being out of action again with his back (presumably that's why he was at the doctor earlier, but without knowing for certain you worry)

If he can't work on the project things will slow down for sure even if they do bring in 'cover'.

**Ugly Green Trog**

BrookM wrote:
My friends are all Dutch and alas, all cheapskates.

Nah, I've asked around, but they all like the chunky GW plastics. I think it might be time to find new friends.

I might check with some friends across the ~~Pond~~ Channel, I meant the Channel.

Don't give up on your friends just yet, first send them to have their eyes tested and get their heads examined. No one in their right minds like GW Cadians!

**Makaleth**

BrookM wrote:
Makaleth wrote:
BrookM wrote:
For me personally the sweet spot is too damn high in, plus it penalizes people who are in it not for an army, but just want a few of the characters.

It's not that the sweet spot is too high me thinks, it's that you want free stuff at $40. Not quite the same thing. Given there are already 5+ free things and more to come I think they put it in the right spot (give or take $20)
I said, it's too high for me personally, I haven't been crying out for freebies, I'm just saying, if you're building an army, you're golden, if you are in it for just a few minis, like I am, that's bad luck.

Ah, sorry, must have read fast. That's perfectly reasonable

**Minx**

Buzzsaw wrote:
If I were to speculate, the most obvious problem is the lack of interaction over the last several days. Over the last 3 days there have been two updates; in contrast Cthulhu Wars had 3 updates just today alone.

The dependence of the kicktraq graphs on updates or more frequent interactions for this particular kickstarter seems to be rather low. The number of daily backers is slowly decreasing regardless of their updates and "spiked" only when the kickstarter got more exposure on some blogs. I guess most of the interested people who know about the kickstarter are either in already or wait for more information, i.e. the last days of the campaign. So, it's a matter of reaching more people to help the kickstarter along, as they've acknowledged as well:

LnR in Update #17 wrote:Furthermore, we need new backers! So this week-end and beginning of the week, we're gonna focus a bit more on communicating with the outside world, and we invite you to do the same. This means that you may not get as many Updates in the next few days, but it is for a good cause. The Toughest Girls of the Galaxy will conquer the world!

**Mathieu Raymond**

I just did a bit of Math-fu this morning... and I am puzzled by something: Looking at the Lt Box level, you pay 165$ for 150$ worth of minis.

Sure, you get the freebies. You get the exclusive mini. You get the digital artbook.

Still, freebies are supposed to be free. I can't believe a digital artbook is that costly spread over that many backers and 4 months of delay (oh, waiting for the bank? Doodle away on digital artbook...)

So is there a premium added to our pledges for the honour of pledging? For full discolsure's sake, I was lucky and got an EB Commander, so I am "even" in the values stated and the price paid.

**BrookM**

Isn't that $15 extra for the exclusive mini? Apologies if you included that in your math-fu.

**Alpharius**

I wonder if this will be the first Kickstarter to buck the 'last day rush' trend?

I doubt it, but at this point, who knows?

**prankster**

BrookM wrote:
Isn't that $15 extra for the exclusive mini? Apologies if you included that in your math-fu.

Yeah, it's $30 Heroines + $60 Troops + $60 Support $15 KS Exclusive.

**Mathieu Raymond**

I'm sorry, I really thought they were trying to pack on the value and did not add it. Especially since, at this point, her squad does not exist. So we can't really use her in their game. (I'd assume she needs to lead a squad)

**BrookM**

Hehe, that was also my beef with the Painter Box, which would be ideal for me, if I wasn't forced to put down an extra $15 for a mini I really don't like the look of.

**prankster**

LnR just surfaced in the comments on KS. Posting here for further visibility as it'll likely vanish into the history soon.

Loud'n Raging wrote: less than a minute ago

Hello dear backers and pledgers :-)
Yes, we are here! And we do value your feedback and comments!
We are indeed working on a thousand things at once :-)
We'd love to chat a bit more here in the comments section, and we'll try to check in more often.
We have indeed been preparing for this KS for many many months...
We do write long updates every day, sometimes more often.
We are currently working on the front page.
We are continually, even now, improving on the concept art to give you the best possible TGG armies we can, as well as outstanding Freebies!
And we are working on the 3D sculpts.
And we are test 3D-printing some minis, to make intelligent decisions on scale.
And we are also working on the banners and the advertising, now that Benoit can sit in a chair to do some images,
and writing new press releases,
discussing with suppliers,
scheduling production,
overseeing freelancers,
managing the regular business as well,
welcoming new retailers and new drop shippers,
and more...
So it is true that I try to come in when there is something new to say...
As for the concern about the slowing down of the campaign, you all know that most KS experience it at this point in time. But be confident that we are addressing it.
And as for the slowdown on the unlocking of minis, we feel the pain with you, and we will address it as needed as well...
I hope this is helping alleviate some of the concerns...

**Mathieu Raymond**

Hun. Not as much as I'd like. Point is, if no money is coming in, things won't get unlocked. At this pace, we might as well say we'll have 30 or 40K added to the current total.

**Minx**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Hun. Not as much as I'd like. Point is, if no money is coming in, things won't get unlocked.

What makes you so sure about that?

**BrookM**

I'd love to see a few more future unlocks laid out instead of being spoon-fed of two or so now. I'd love to know when the rest of my stuff will get unlocked.

**inqscott**

That's what I'm waiting on has well I would like to see the other mechs also the other army leaders being that the IE general is what brought me into the ks in the first place.

**Minx**

They are aware:

LnR wrote:And as for the slowdown on the unlocking of minis, we feel the pain with you, and we will address it as needed as well

**Hulksmash**

Early bird Leiutenant (sp?) opening in a minute or two.

**prankster**

Hulksmash wrote:
Early bird Leiutenant (sp?) opening in a minute or two.

Ta, assuming that was yours at $150, saved me $2 on my LT pledge.

**Hulksmash**

Certainly was. I'm over Raging Heroes issues at this point. I'll see about some of the models when they are released at retail but honestly I can't support a company this unorganized.

I'll keep an eye on it just to see how it turns out, I like some of the models, but this one turned into a pass unless plastics get thrown in.