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Buzzsaw, you continue to impress.

I've not had any problems with the campaign so far, because my expectations were set to the following:

Will the concepts look good? So far, yes, practically all of the concepts I've liked, bar a few.

Do the renders follow the concept art? Mostly, and we've only seen a handful. RH has promised more to come, so we'll see. The troops were a bit wanting, but the heroine renders look ace.

Do the models look like the renders look like the concept? Yes, the side by side of One Shot Blondie proves Raging Heroes is completely capable of producing models from their renders (this was never a big doubt of mine).

Value. I consider the discount worth my money. $3-4 a figure is pretty good in my book for troops of a high quality. While $15 is stretching for a metal model, it's still manageable if it's the only one I'm going to get, and it's a quality model.

Apart from the early campaign rush (where I think RH were literally running around with their hair on fire), it's been fine in terms of pacing. It may have slowed in a few places, but I'm not expecting a Mantic or CMON-level campaign from RH.

I just want to see some cool miniatures make it to market.

~iPaint

 -iPaint- wrote:
Buzzsaw, you continue to impress.

I've not had any problems with the campaign so far, because my expectations were set to the following:

Will the concepts look good? So far, yes, practically all of the concepts I've liked, bar a few.

Do the renders follow the concept art? Mostly, and we've only seen a handful. RH has promised more to come, so we'll see. The troops were a bit wanting, but the heroine renders look ace.

Do the models look like the renders look like the concept? Yes, the side by side of One Shot Blondie proves Raging Heroes is completely capable of producing models from their renders (this was never a big doubt of mine).

Value. I consider the discount worth my money. $3-4 a figure is pretty good in my book for troops of a high quality. While $15 is stretching for a metal model, it's still manageable if it's the only one I'm going to get, and it's a quality model.

Apart from the early campaign rush (where I think RH were literally running around with their hair on fire), it's been fine in terms of pacing. It may have slowed in a few places, but I'm not expecting a Mantic or CMON-level campaign from RH.

I just want to see some cool miniatures make it to market.

~iPaint

That's where I am. I'm helping a boutique shop set up, and I'm willing to pay premium for attractive sculpts. Models like One-Shot Blondie up the ante to other companies. I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of her on C'mon.

JAILBIRD BIKE!
Update #28 · Jun 26, 2013 · comment


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The first motorbike for the Jailbirds Division is now unlocked.

Most of the Jailbirds' equipment is scavenged from the battlefield or is looted from during raids on industrial sites. However when it comes to bikes, the Jailbirds trust no one but themselves! In time, they have developed their very own models, which tend to be pretty amazing machines on the battlefield...

And.....balls. I hadn't planned on getting any bikes, but now I'm sorely tempted.

~iPaint

40k imperial guard "rough riders" or whatever they're called are pretty rubish... right?

RoninXiC wrote:
40k imperial guard "rough riders" or whatever they're called are pretty rubish... right?

Not sure, don't play 40k anymore. The bikes alone are cool, but the masked rider just screams badass.

~iPaint

Holy shades of beyond thunderdome batman! That's freaking awesome!

I wonder if I could make her fit on a DE jetbike?

Until there's a game for them, I can't come up with a use for the bikes... I don't think I can justify the cost for counts-as rough riders

I kinda wish the Shock Troops would have cyber horses instead of motorcycles.

Well, I like the JB concept better than the IE. The forward leaning pose looks a lot more active to me; I look at the IE and I think about being stuck behind a parade of these guys revving their engines. The lack of a ready game use for the model will limit the appeal of it, but I could see buying one just to look badass... it's a better value than most of the $15 Heroines, if nothing else.

Cross posting this from the comments;

With regards to the bikes and artillery: personally (just my own opinion here), it seems like a waste to sculpt 3 completely different bikes and 3 different artillery pieces for each faction (so 18 kits total).

IMO, it would be much better to have a single Bike kit and a single Artillery kit for each faction with a bunch of options allowing different load-outs. So instead of a $20 kit with one bike, maybe a kit that can make 3 bikes with a variety of heads, torsos and weapons for, say, $50 retail.

Similarly the artillery could be made modular.

So instead of having to cast 3 different complete bikes per faction, cast one basic bike that is modified by different weapon loadouts and can accept different riders.

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I never noticed before today... are you Mr. Spock?

Heh, well, let's just saw we grew from the same desert stones.

JWMarines wrote:
Until there's a game for them, I can't come up with a use for the bikes... I don't think I can justify the cost for counts-as rough riders

I.....I don't know what I would use them for, but they are awesome. Maybe scout ally bike? Use one shot and some snipes as a troops, No wait. Eldar jet bike! Yes, one shot as the Eldar sniper dude and there you go! HQ and troop.

I am thinking of getting the lieutenant box and just converting them or doing the troops up in chaos colors and using them in a chaos cultist army. Iron empire looks like a cultist army waiting to happen

Or just use them as rough riders and be done with it. I really don't understand what all the angst over this is about.

 Breotan wrote:
Or just use them as rough riders and be done with it. I really don't understand what all the angst over this is about.

Don't like the bikes; don't get 'em. Seems simple.

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 Buzzsaw wrote:

With regards to the bikes and artillery: personally (just my own opinion here), it seems like a waste to sculpt 3 completely different bikes and 3 different artillery pieces for each faction (so 18 kits total).

I can certainly see that working for the artillery boxes, based on the two per faction that we've already seen. Say a box with 3 frames with enough parts to have three of the same weapon if wanted, then the crew. Could still have the six different crew figures in there to keep the variety. Though I'd like it if they split it into two boxes, one for just the weapons and another for the crew. That way you can either get them as intended, or use the crew from one faction with weapons from another (JB crew and IE weapons for example) or even go out of range for weapons/crew depending on your chosen force/game.

For the bikes, its a little hard to agree at the moment. Certainly until we see more than one concept per faction. For all we know at the moment they might be vastly different and not suit the upgrade sprue idea.

But I want lots and lots of different bikes and riders.......

Although I'm not so interested in Artillery

(and I'm sure there are others who are exactly the opposite)

They've 'advertised' this is how they are going to do it (in terms of what they'll sculpt), and I think they need to stick to that

Loud'n Raging wrote: 11 minutes ago

We are focusing on the unlocks now. There will be more Stretch Goals for Freebies and Free Upgrades later... Add-ons are also planned... And details of weaponry etc. is forthcoming... You are in our hourly thoughts and we won't let you down!

From the comments section. Looks like we'll see the other freebies at some point before the end of the KS.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
But I want lots and lots of different bikes and riders.......

I agree. I like the promised variety.

On the contrary I am really not interested in bikes, but love the fact artillery is that varied.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
BTW, in one of the unnoticed updates, Raging Heroes assured us, that they have no doubts that all planned miniatures will be unlocked at the end of the kickstarter.

Jimsolo wrote:They've already pretty much told us that they're going to unlock everything one way or another. I wouldn't worry too much.

That's what I said 20 days ago, but people didn't believe me.

Makes you wonder why they bothered to have "stretch" goals at all, in a way if you want to go down that route.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I keep wondering to myself why I keep opening this thread. It's wall to wall negativity.

I kinda do too, since you seem to post in here every two days complaining about the negativity. It's not terribly different to most other KS threads. Well, except in this one, Kroot is the cheerleader rather than spending all his time pissing on Mantic.

 Azazelx wrote:

I kinda do too, since you seem to post in here every two days complaining about the negativity. It's not terribly different to most other KS threads. Well, except in this one, Kroot is the cheerleader rather than spending all his time pissing on Mantic.

Well, to be fair, Mantic's sculpts are somewhat less than stellar.

I've been more than critical on that point myself, though what I'm referencing goes way beyond that.

I don't want to drag the thread back into the argument over proportions, but... is it me or are Mortaria Noctis' legs way too long?

Alyanumbers wrote:
I don't want to drag the thread back into the argument over proportions, but... is it me or are Mortaria Noctis' legs way too long?

You say that as if there's something wrong with that.

I can see it, but I think it comes from the uniform more than actual body proportions.

Plug/Gimp/Body suits of that style can visually affect height and weight perceptions of individuals.

So not really you, but kinda you. That face also does horrible things to the perspective as well.

RoninXiC wrote:40k imperial guard "rough riders" or whatever they're called are pretty rubish... right?

JWMarines wrote:Until there's a game for them, I can't come up with a use for the bikes... I don't think I can justify the cost for counts-as rough riders

I'm using mine for Space Marine Scout Bikers. Given their ability to take locator beacons, they're actually a valuable unit for Tau, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, or Vanilla Marines, providing that your list utilizes Deep Strikers.

The rider looks cool, but the motorcycle itself still looks like junk. It reminds me of the old G1 attempts at motorcycle Transformers, which were more often than not blocks with bits of motorcycle kibble stuck on. A proper motorcycle that looked like it could steer would also be smaller and thus cheaper to produce.