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Dude, that spoiler was wrong and not needed, just say it wasnt useful or something.

JWhex wrote:
Dude, that spoiler was wrong and not needed, just say it wasnt useful or something.

Seconded. What was the point?

JWhex wrote:Dude, that spoiler was wrong and not needed, just say it wasnt useful or something.

Ktulhut wrote:

JWhex wrote:
Dude, that spoiler was wrong and not needed, just say it wasnt useful or something.

Seconded. What was the point?

Well, not really being one for HTML or whatever the hell that was, I didn't really know how to describe it. I thought that possibly someone would see it and be able to fill me in on something I was possibly doing wrong.

I have trouble understanding how hard it is to grab the scroll bar and go back up and click the spoiler button again, but I'm removing the post anyway. Nevermind.

It was the XML for the RSS feed for their show.

 notprop wrote:
Words escape me.....I mean how do you get a gig without actually meeting the person face to face? The frequency of "I Was ripped off on the web" type thread makes a whole lot more sense to me now I see how "business" is conducted.

I just started really listening to Deep Strike Radio a few weeks ago. Their hosts are from several different countries, including the US, Norway, and Germany. I believe this Christina person was Canadian. It's pretty impossible to hold face-to-face interviews for new podcast hosts when you're spread across the world. I believe, but don't quote me, that the new hosts were interviewed via Skype calls, presumably without video.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 notprop wrote:
Words escape me.....I mean how do you get a gig without actually meeting the person face to face? The frequency of "I Was ripped off on the web" type thread makes a whole lot more sense to me now I see how "business" is conducted.

I just started really listening to Deep Strike Radio a few weeks ago. Their hosts are from several different countries, including the US, Norway, and Germany. I believe this Christina person was Canadian. It's pretty impossible to hold face-to-face interviews for new podcast hosts when you're spread across the world. I believe, but don't quote me, that the new hosts were interviewed via Skype calls, presumably without video.

Everyone knows that if you're talking about a 'girl from Canada' (especially a girlfriend from Canada) it's a lie. Her name is Alberta, she LIVES in Vancouver.

What the actual feth lol.

Oh god no, the rage, the scandal, the horror!!!

At the risk of being callous, eh, who cares? Someone pulled one over on you. Radio kind of has a long-standing tradition of being a platform for elaborate hoaxes. A lot of these have caused much more distress and worry than here. See I, Libertine and War of the Worlds, to name a few. People would probably do better than to believe everything they hear anyway.

No one was actually hurt. No one lost money (that I could see). The only thing that happened was that some nutcase got a finger or two on your heartstrings for a moment. Take a deep breath, shake your head, and get on with life.

We got trolled. Thats what I get for caring about others.

 daedalus wrote:

No one was actually hurt. No one lost money (that I could see). The only thing that happened was that some nutcase got a finger or two on your heartstrings for a moment. Take a deep breath, shake your head, and get on with life.

This.

JWhex wrote:
The person that perpetrated this hoax needs to be outed. They have some serious mental health issues and the community really should be warned away from this person.

Or you could just ignore them and not give them the attention they seem to want so badly.

 cvtuttle wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

No one was actually hurt. No one lost money (that I could see). The only thing that happened was that some nutcase got a finger or two on your heartstrings for a moment. Take a deep breath, shake your head, and get on with life.

This.

Double This. Seriously.

It's the Internet. A large portion of "people" lie about gender, age, background, well, pretty much everything. Why? Sometimes because they just want to be someone else, other times they like trolling people. I personally know of companies that have fake facebook / twitter / whatever accounts they use in order to find persons; and yes, this includes personal and family photos etc. There are many companies who sell their services to "up vote" or "like" things or leave "positive feedback" in order to prop up others.

Quite frankly I don't find this any different than people hiding behind pseudonyms like "Best40kgamer" or "HotChick" or whatever (those were made up but I'm sure someone is using them somewhere). Even if they said they were a "90 year old fat bald guy with halitosis" you can bet that it's not 100% accurate. The old adage: if it's on the internet it's probably fake is very much true for a reason.

Also, this isn't limited to the internet. People have been pretending to be others for time immemorial. In today's parlance that's called "social engineering" in the old days they were called "confidence men". Point is, you can't tell anything about anyone. Even in person you *might* be able to tell their gender and approximate age; although even that's not a guarantee.

Point is, the community was trolled. Just LOL and move on.

clively wrote:

Double This. Seriously.

It's the Internet. A large portion of "people" lie about gender, age, background, well, pretty much everything.

Oh man. You're bringing back Match.com memories... Ugh. "125lbs and social drinker only" my ass.

 kronk wrote:

clively wrote:

Double This. Seriously.

It's the Internet. A large portion of "people" lie about gender, age, background, well, pretty much everything.

Oh man. You're bringing back Match.com memories... Ugh. "125lbs and social drinker only" my ass.

Was she equally disappointed when she found out you were actually Will Ferrell?

 kronk wrote:

clively wrote:

Double This. Seriously.

It's the Internet. A large portion of "people" lie about gender, age, background, well, pretty much everything.

Oh man. You're bringing back Match.com memories... Ugh. "125lbs and social drinker only" my ass.

Hah! This seriously made me laugh.

I've downloaded a few of the podcasts

I'm rustled now. The guy could have easily been himself and become a regular member of the only community - no need to pretend to be a woman

Then faking a death online and all that jazz. U w0t m8?

 BolingbrokeIV wrote:

That's completely understandable and to be honest I didn't think the likes of yourself or Galan, who were immediately affected, needed to obliged to address the issue but thanks for doing that. I just think it's such a remarkable issue and some people would rather deal with it with some discussion.

Firstly, it was weird reading my name...that took me a second to realize that it wasn't my forum name here.

I apologize if you thought I was being dismissive of people talking about the situation. I do I think it's definitely something worth discussing. I completely understand why people are upset, especially people that invested a lot of time getting to know the Christina persona. It was an elaborate ruse, with many layers...the best and most believable lies are, IMHO, complex. Hell, one of the other hosts spent a fair amount of time talking to her and was understandably upset by the hoax.

While nowhere near as elaborate as what happened here, the whole KCWM thing stemmed from an alternate persona I concocted on the very first message board I ever posted on. I did it for the attention/notoriety, as an experiment, and because I was bored and had a job that allowed me the leisure to do it. My whole thing looks like kiddie hour compared to what this individual did and that is what I find most fascinating. Perhaps that, in addition to my own experience, helps nip any anger I have in the bud.

As others, either on here on the DSR facebook post have said, the fact that no one actually died is a small victory. What I do know is that learning about the "death" of this persona and based on the nearly hour long goodbye, it provoked a good amount of introspection for me with regards to how I compartmentalize things in relation my wife, my daughter, and my friends. I've started trying to work through that issue. Whether the situation was fake or not, that's a positive thing for me.

People dismissing other people being bothered by the situation say far more about themselves than they are saying about others. The whole Internet Tough Guy thing is pretty old hat nowadays.

 kcwm wrote:

People dismissing other people being bothered by the situation say far more about themselves than they are saying about others. The whole Internet Tough Guy thing is pretty old hat nowadays.

I don't think anyone's trying to be Internet Tough Guy here. Just saying that it's not something worth getting your undergarments wadded up over. You mistake "indifference through the expectation that things similar occur far more often than realized" for "anonymous internet bravado".

Besides, in the grand scheme of things, "Grown man who pretends to be a woman" probably isn't much more bizarre than "Grown man who plays with plastic action figures".

If that says a lot about me, then I suppose it does.

 daedalus wrote:

 kcwm wrote:

People dismissing other people being bothered by the situation say far more about themselves than they are saying about others. The whole Internet Tough Guy thing is pretty old hat nowadays.

I don't think anyone's trying to be Internet Tough Guy here. Just saying that it's not something worth getting your undergarments wadded up over. You mistake "indifference through the expectation that things similar occur far more often than realized" for "anonymous internet bravado".

Besides, in the grand scheme of things, "Grown man who pretends to be a woman" probably isn't much more bizarre than "Grown man who plays with plastic action figures".

If that says a lot about me, then I suppose it does.

Unless you've been in the situation and can say for certain that you wouldn't get your "undergarments wadded up", then it's all just grandstanding, when in all actuality, you have no idea unless you've been in the situation.

Interestingly enough, I did pitch shift a portion of the interview I did with Christina. While both of our voices sounded modified, my voice sounded unnatural whereas "hers" sounded like a guy talking a little higher, and shifting that up through a filter would make it sound like a girl. I'm not convinced it was a dude masquerading as a girl, but I can't rule it out by any means.

During the interview, before she'd talk, you can hear a number of weird clicking or popping noises. While crappy mics do indeed sound like you're talking through a telephone, it'd be odd for it to click and pop before someone talked and not during their talking. I wouldn't rull it out, but as I listened with a different point of view, a few things did stand out as odd to me, especially when listening to the pitch shifted version.

Griever wrote:
That's why anytime anything remotely tragic happens we get a 24/7 news cycle crammed down our throats about this school shooting, this random bombing in some city, this tornado that shockingly didn't dodge a school full of kids (in a place where they get serious tornados every year).

Hey! Get your own tragedies!

 kcwm wrote:

Unless you've been in the situation and can say for certain that you wouldn't get your "undergarments wadded up", then it's all just grandstanding, when in all actuality, you have no idea unless you've been in the situation.

You just don't get me then. I'm outraged at the outrage. You appear to be some meta level of outrage outrage outrager. I think you're just grandstanding my grandstanding. You'd understand if you were ever in my position.

Okay, so maybe I'm being petulant. Frankly, I have dealt with men who were pretending to be women online though, and it IS no big deal for me. It's weird, sure, but the world is full of weirdos. Again, nothing to do but shake your head and move on. Nothing ITG about that. If anything I think that's quite the opposite.

Internet tough guy is a good enough term for it. But we'd be better off if we had a similarly catchy term for the guy who interjects in a thread and goes: 'Oh look you people are reacting to something. How quaint. Who cares? I'm above all this reacting to stuff. This happens all the time, what is new?'

This is nuts...

If you think that this is nuts, wait till the internet realizes that I'm not a man at all, but a self-aware squid with a dial-up modem.
That backlash is going to be crazy...

 Squidmanlolz wrote:
If you think that this is nuts, wait till the internet realizes that I'm not a man at all, but a self-aware squid with a dial-up modem.
That backlash is going to be crazy...

You better delete this before the men in black find out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqbTLJ0U84M

 BolingbrokeIV wrote:
Internet tough guy is a good enough term for it. But we'd be better off if we had a similarly catchy term for the guy who interjects in a thread and goes: 'Oh look you people are reacting to something. How quaint. Who cares? I'm above all this reacting to stuff. This happens all the time, what is new?'

I guess if I have to see your outrage, you have to see my flippant disregard? Perhaps part of the problem is that you take too many things too seriously, and I take nothing as serious as I should.

So then I guess it's "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be numb psuedo-intellectual" versus "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be selfrighteously enraged and taken-advantage-of innocent upstanding member of the community" over "petulant and bored neckbeard who's figured out he can antagonize a group of people by pretending he is a dying mammal possessing a reproductive type opposite of his own." Not as catchy as Internet Tough Guy.

You might try psuedo-intellectual internet sophist. Problem is that it's still not very catchy, and that there's so many of us it's not really as profound a remark.

 daedalus wrote:

 BolingbrokeIV wrote:
Internet tough guy is a good enough term for it. But we'd be better off if we had a similarly catchy term for the guy who interjects in a thread and goes: 'Oh look you people are reacting to something. How quaint. Who cares? I'm above all this reacting to stuff. This happens all the time, what is new?'

I guess if I have to see your outrage, you have to see my flippant disregard? Perhaps part of the problem is that you take too many things too seriously, and I take nothing as serious as I should.

So then I guess it's "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be numb psuedo-intellectual" versus "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be selfrighteously enraged and taken-advantage-of innocent upstanding member of the community" over "petulant and bored neckbeard who's figured out he can antagonize a group of people by pretending he is a dying mammal possessing a reproductive type opposite of his own." Not as catchy as Internet Tough Guy.

You might try psuedo-intellectual internet sophist. Problem is that it's still not very catchy, and that there's so many of us it's not really as profound a remark.

See, the difference is, other people post in a thread to express that they care about the topic in some way. You are posting just to tell everyone how little you care. Why not just not post at all and save the trouble?

I bet I know who it was...
















MANDELBAUM!!!!!!!

 MandalorynOranj wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 BolingbrokeIV wrote:
Internet tough guy is a good enough term for it. But we'd be better off if we had a similarly catchy term for the guy who interjects in a thread and goes: 'Oh look you people are reacting to something. How quaint. Who cares? I'm above all this reacting to stuff. This happens all the time, what is new?'

I guess if I have to see your outrage, you have to see my flippant disregard? Perhaps part of the problem is that you take too many things too seriously, and I take nothing as serious as I should.

So then I guess it's "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be numb psuedo-intellectual" versus "petulant and bored neckbeard pretending to be selfrighteously enraged and taken-advantage-of innocent upstanding member of the community" over "petulant and bored neckbeard who's figured out he can antagonize a group of people by pretending he is a dying mammal possessing a reproductive type opposite of his own." Not as catchy as Internet Tough Guy.

You might try psuedo-intellectual internet sophist. Problem is that it's still not very catchy, and that there's so many of us it's not really as profound a remark.

See, the difference is, other people post in a thread to express that they care about the topic in some way. You are posting just to tell everyone how little you care. Why not just not post at all and save the trouble?

3 possibilities. Take your pick:

1) I'm actually the guy in question, and I'm drinking up the attention like delicious, delicious ambrosia.
2) Because I genuinely believe that it's my job on earth to convince people to not have a self-righteous panic attack anytime anything wargaming happens.
3) Because I came here genuinely curious about what the hoax was, wanting to shield myself from potential liability in case it was a widespread case of fraud not unlike the RSO debacle, only to find that it was some scandalous ordeal that has no real-world impact, with me voicing my annoyance at the underwhelmingness of the event. After all, what use is a discussion forum if the only people allowed to post had the same opinion? It likely could have been a one and done comment. Well, except for all the people who agreed with me.

I'll let you guess which one is right. Frankly, I'm still trying to guess myself.

Regards,
Tiffany