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shade1313 wrote:


Also there's a bunch of new data sheets, inlcuding some for those of us that bought multiple NEW models

It's also NOT the only Chaos models coming out, along with a few other Khorne...speedy guys...

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New data sheets? For existing models? Why would they do that? Wrong rules in the codex?

Other Khorne models? As in plural. Another dual kit maybe or maybe we shouldn't put anything into it.

One thing I love about the Internet is the fact that its inhabitants can come up with simply fantastic names for almost anything. Khornemower. Genius.

GW actually produces good deals when they want to; the christmas megaforces and the apoc boxes were great, and they had no problems selling. Funny that, offer people a decent deal, and you move a ton of a product. I'd be more interested in those than whatever hamfisted superheavies they come out with.

Frankly, FW has already designed good superheavies, and GW's own design studio can't make things half as good looking as them. Frankly, it'd make good business sense to import FW models which sell particularly well into the main plastic line, like, say, a $150 - $190 plastic Thunderhawk. But GW doesn't want to do that anymore, and will stick to its own vastly inferior aesthetic, which means I'm not terribly interested in what they produce.

I have my plastic Baneblade (though I wish they had kept the sleeker aesthetic of the FW one, rather than rivetmania), and my marines don't need a superheavy, so colour me disinterested in whatever sillyness they produce if the leaked images are any indicator.

Chaospling wrote:

New data sheets? For existing models? Why would they do that? Wrong rules in the codex?

I'll just assume you haven't read the original Apocalypse books. Datasheets don't just cover single models, they also cover grouping of a certain model/unit(say 10 Leman Russes) or involving a certain model/unit in a group of other models(CCS + 3 Platoons). If you bring the required models for the Datasheets, you're granted special rules and/or additional Apocalypse Assets.

What the rumors are saying is that there are Datasheets in the new version of Apocalypse that features the new models recently put out in the 6th ed books, say a Datasheet featuring multiple Riptides.

shade1313 wrote:
From TheDarkGeneral, originally posted on Throne of Skulls and picked up by me on Warseer:

It's a dual kit approx size of baneblade box, but taller model. Makes either the Deathdealer or Lord of Battles.

Also there's a bunch of new data sheets, inlcuding some for those of us that bought multiple NEW models

It's also NOT the only Chaos models coming out, along with a few other Khorne...speedy guys...

Approx price is $125

More chaos, eh?

Oh, Khorne.

Given tDG's record of accuracy (less reliable than asking your cat), that most likely means nothing new for Khorne EVER.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Chaospling wrote:

New data sheets? For existing models? Why would they do that? Wrong rules in the codex?

I'll just assume you haven't read the original Apocalypse books. Datasheets don't just cover single models, they also cover grouping of a certain model/unit(say 10 Leman Russes) or involving a certain model/unit in a group of other models(CCS + 3 Platoons). If you bring the required models for the Datasheets, you're granted special rules and/or additional Apocalypse Assets.

What the rumors are saying is that there are Datasheets in the new version of Apocalypse that features the new models recently put out in the 6th ed books, say a Datasheet featuring multiple Riptides.

Ah yes of course. Forgot about those sheets, I had only separate Vehicle and Monstrous Creature rules in mind.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I suspect GW won't be offering any of those amazing boxes like they did last time when Apocalypse launched?

Well my wallet is hoping so anyway.

It's more likely than you think, actually.

With the Release of Eldar, they offered reboxes of three Support Weapon Batteries and three the War Walkers for less than the cost of three boxes individually. Then again, they reboxed Dire Avengers for a 100% markup.

Avian wrote: Given tDG's record of accuracy (less reliable than asking your cat), that most likely means nothing new for Khorne EVER.

This. Good Lord, a thousand times this. Anyone else remember his CSM legions rumours? There is no way Khorne are getting two dual kits for this release. It also makes no sense financially, you can't concentrate all of your efforts into an extremely small sub-section of players. An undivided, or Tzeentch/Slaanesh release would get far more customers than a second Khorne model.
Although he could be right about the price... that's ~£75? £80? Sounds about right for something that size, but I will be irate, and downright ****ed off with GW if the Monolith costs more than £80.

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:


With the Release of Eldar, they offered reboxes of three Support Weapon Batteries and three the War Walkers for less than the cost of three boxes individually. Then again, they reboxed Dire Avengers for a 100% markup.

Yeah, I thought they marked up the Dire Avengers too when I walked into my FLGS and saw the box, I had a small army based around the battleforce box a few years ago and so I guess I have 15 avengers at half the price . I really don't get why GW has to mark up the price so high for old models (ehrm... VC blood knights). I haven't looked at the new eldar codex, but unless they basically doubled in points and effectiveness then I don't see why they should have a price increase, especially when they are then same models too.

I'm hoping that they really work on how Titans and gargantuan creatures work. Currently, they GG creatures are superior..to titans...which created an imbalance when those hit the table. I'm also hoping they change how Structure points work. The 6th edition band aid that FW applied with 3 HP = 1SP ...I'm not a fan of.

The whole idea of hull points and Super heavies is garbage, IMHO. But because they sold enough tanks last edition, I fully expect GW to reduce it to 1 SP = 2 HP.

1 SP = 4+ HP would be much better. And they really need to fix Crew Shaken - it now stops the entire Super Heavy from shooting.

All I can think of now is

I really want to see the actual name of the Skulldozer/Khornebine Harvester/Khornemower now. Deathdealer? I don't know, I just don't imagine GW will keep the old epic names.

But if it is a deathdealer, mine will be killed Scrambles. Scrambles the Deathdealer. Hopefully someone will get the reference.

 Flood wrote:
All I can think of now is

+1 To you..... Certainly made my day

Lucarikx

 Lucarikx wrote:

 Flood wrote:
All I can think of now is

+1 To you..... Certainly made my day

Lucarikx

Damn, does that come in green?

There are a few kits they could easily bring in and make money off of due to them being dual-kits. Some armies have been overdone, so as much as I could see Macharius or Malcador kits...probably won't happen due to the Baneblade and Stormblade being so readily available and popular.

But I could see a kit for the two types of Tau Tigershark, Eldar Scorpion/Cobra, Mechanicus/Dark Mech Knight Titan...etc

A Plastic Barbed or Sycthed Heirodule...

That'd be a dream come true

Bloodhorror wrote:
A Plastic Barbed or Sycthed Heirodule...

That'd be a dream come true

If they do, I hope they at least get resculpted. They currently look like giant play-doh monsters IMO.

 Flood wrote:
All I can think of now is

Sad thing is, the harvester is actually much better in close combat
BTW is that a khorne field

I hope the guard get something.

 Flood wrote:
All I can think of now is

You Sir are a genius.

I hope SM get so good toys.

 Kroothawk wrote:

BTW is that a khorne field

Great, now I have images of 'zerks with straw hats, wearing ceramite dungarees and chewing a stalk.
Wonder how long that model will be, can get scale combine's measuring about 30cm in length...

You can always convert

So just because I was wondering, and I have photoshop, here are some size comparisons I did...

The first is the Lord of Awesome. This size comparison was based on the size of the head of a Juggernaut (specifically, the one on the front right, facing the camera), and using a Bloodcrusher in as close to a similar pose as I could find, then comparing the size of that Bloodcrusher's base, to the Wraithlord's base, both being 60mm.


The second is comparing the Megalith, using the size of the flying base the one on the left is sitting on, with as close to a similarly angled Wraith Knight base as I could find.


I'm really skeptical of the actual size of the Lord of Battles, but unless those Juggernaut heads sticking out of it are significantly smaller, it should be close to this size. The Megalith is also pretty substantial, especially when spread out.

MajorStoffer wrote:GW actually produces good deals when they want to; the christmas megaforces and the apoc boxes were great, and they had no problems selling. Funny that, offer people a decent deal, and you move a ton of a product. I'd be more interested in those than whatever hamfisted superheavies they come out with.

Frankly, FW has already designed good superheavies, and GW's own design studio can't make things half as good looking as them. Frankly, it'd make good business sense to import FW models which sell particularly well into the main plastic line, like, say, a $150 - $190 plastic Thunderhawk. But GW doesn't want to do that anymore, and will stick to its own vastly inferior aesthetic, which means I'm not terribly interested in what they produce.

I have my plastic Baneblade (though I wish they had kept the sleeker aesthetic of the FW one, rather than rivetmania), and my marines don't need a superheavy, so colour me disinterested in whatever sillyness they produce if the leaked images are any indicator.

They offer those mega-forces and Apocalypse boxes for just those occasions; and because it's a short run, special event, or limited edition product, it sells well. That's why they fly off the shelves. But the core game still has its own market value, and not everyone needs or wants to buy 3 Drop Pods at once, for example.

GW's Baneblade looks every bit as good as the Forgeworld one; I know, a friend of mine owns (and plays) both. It's also easier to assemble, easier to transport, and more durable than the soft, brittle resin. The lines are also cleaner, the seams come together straighter, and the mold lines are simpler to remove. So "...can't make things half as good looking..." is an exaggeration that holds no water in this discussion.

It doesn't make great business sense to port Forgeworld models, as it cuts into one business they profit from (Forgeworld), to profit from another. Then people like you would claim the FW ones look twice as good as the GW ones, so they wouldn't exactly fly off the shelf.

Your marines may not need a super-heavy, but there are thousands of marine players who would probably buy one in a heartbeat. The Forgeworld Thunderhawk has NOT sold that well, but I wager a plastic one would be perpetually sold out. Even if it were $200.

 minionboy wrote:
So just because I was wondering, and I have photoshop, here are some size comparisons I did...


The second is comparing the Megalith, using the size of the flying base the one on the left is sitting on, with as close to a similarly angled Wraith Knight base as I could find.


I'm really skeptical of the actual size of the Lord of Battles, but unless those Juggernaut heads sticking out of it are significantly smaller, it should be close to this size. The Megalith is also pretty substantial, especially when spread out.

Any chance of having a comparison shot (best guess) with the "megalith" and the regular Monolith?

 Kroothawk wrote:
You can always convert

So Slaanesh tills the fields and Khorne cuts down the crop.

Now all we need a Tzeentch seeder/planter and a Nurgle fertilizer.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
You can always convert

So Slaanesh tills the fields and Khorne cuts down the crop.

Now all we need a Tzeentch seeder/planter and a Nurgle fertilizer.

Fertilizing is probably also Slaanesh.

Awesome photoshops. Scale really makes a difference with the Khorne Konstruct.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
You can always convert

So Slaanesh tills the fields and Khorne cuts down the crop.
Now all we need a Tzeentch seeder/planter and a Nurgle fertilizer.

Tzeentch is providing the Heldrake cropduster, and Papa Nurgle fertilizes all day