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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 16:12:35
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Tunneling Trygon
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Is that the Model version of the Dick Plane we saw in the Rumors Thread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 16:34:36
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 16:43:00
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Do we really have to call it the 'Dick Plane'? Now that we've seen a better rendering, it really doesn't look like a dick and most of us are out of middle school.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 16:47:45
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You can call it something else, but the old name will always be used when my Eldar buddy fields his. Edit: The new picture is much better.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/06/11 16:51:42
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:09:26
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Unless they change the damage charts and how they relate to superheavies I don't see a lot of Eldar superheavies being near worth their points.
All blast weapons that can easily get 'shaken' or 'stunned' out of being fired.
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Farseer Faenyin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:37:43
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just a cockpit added to the Crimson Hunter? I don't believe that. Someone is trolling BOLS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:39:46
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Kroothawk wrote:Just a cockpit added to the Crimson Hunter? I don't believe that. Someone is trolling BOLS.
Would not be the first time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:53:43
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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There's also some extra engines and modified wings, but yeah, it's obviously a phooshop of the Crimson Hunter's top view. Could be just a way to explain how the new plane would look, but it all seems very doubtful.
If it's even real at all, it seems more likely to just be mistaken for the missing DE bomber.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 18:05:28
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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pretre wrote:Do we really have to call it the 'Dick Plane'? Now that we've seen a better rendering, it really doesn't look like a dick and most of us are out of middle school.
Physically perhaps, but never in spirit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 18:06:33
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The DE bomber looks different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 18:17:49
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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How do you know? It's been a while since I glanced the Dark Eldar codex,, but I believe it doesn't even have codex art if I recall correctly? And even if it has, GW doesn't always follow codex art looks when something finally receives a model (e.g. the Tyrannofex and the Manticore I believe). Or am I missing something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 20:14:32
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Dakka Veteran
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bodazoka wrote:Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol
Technically, there's supposed to be a difference between playing with toys and collecting "fine miniatures", but GW has been pretty successful in blurring the line lately..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 20:21:42
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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prowla wrote:bodazoka wrote:Irony is grown men playing a toy game complaining that there toys look too much like toys. lol
Technically, there's supposed to be a difference between collecting toys and painting "fine miniatures", but GW has been pretty successful in blurring the line lately..
If you say so, but I suggest you check out some of the toy fandom's customizers and customization forums before making that call.
Frenyrumble's a good start. So are those Steampunk Star Wars figures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 21:02:30
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rumours say, it has a turret on the front. Also, DE don't fly wraith geese
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 15:59:02
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Anybody else curious as to the reason behind the absolute death of Apoc rumors? Doesn't bode well. Either the original leak of information was all that is coming from the Apoc release, or GW is getting much better than the NSA on keeping people quiet.
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Farseer Faenyin
7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 16:14:44
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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The leaker was taken care of by top men.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 16:29:51
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Farseer Faenyin wrote:Anybody else curious as to the reason behind the absolute death of Apoc rumors? Doesn't bode well. Either the original leak of information was all that is coming from the Apoc release, or GW is getting much better than the NSA on keeping people quiet.
GW's been really tight on leaks. We usually don't know anything until about a week before the WD comes out; the fact we got a cover shot and picture of that Monolith thing so early is really unusual. It's been like this going back to September at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 16:38:38
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Brother SRM wrote: Farseer Faenyin wrote:Anybody else curious as to the reason behind the absolute death of Apoc rumors? Doesn't bode well. Either the original leak of information was all that is coming from the Apoc release, or GW is getting much better than the NSA on keeping people quiet.
GW's been really tight on leaks. We usually don't know anything until about a week before the WD comes out; the fact we got a cover shot and picture of that Monolith thing so early is really unusual. It's been like this going back to September at least.
Only getting a pic of the cover and one page was the unusual thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 21:58:24
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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What, so GW finally had the leakers bumped off? actually that doesnt sound so suprising anymore...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 22:31:39
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Fixture of Dakka
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I was more surprised by how early the apocalypse White Dwarf was leaked: which may explain the lack of subsequent rumours, as they typically come much closer to release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 22:34:34
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Cosmic Joe
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Okay, I laughed out loud when I saw that Khorne demon engine. That thing is just goofy looking. It's hard to make that concept look good. It's a big guy stuck on tank tranks. It doesn't have the feel that Chaos should have (being cool looking) and doesn't fit in with the fluff. Wouldn't they have knights and titans of different sizes? Why make up something that just looks stupid? I realize that it's old school epic, but some ideas should be left to die, and this was one of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/13 23:19:12
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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Brother SRM wrote: Farseer Faenyin wrote:Anybody else curious as to the reason behind the absolute death of Apoc rumors? Doesn't bode well. Either the original leak of information was all that is coming from the Apoc release, or GW is getting much better than the NSA on keeping people quiet.
GW's been really tight on leaks. We usually don't know anything until about a week before the WD comes out; the fact we got a cover shot and picture of that Monolith thing so early is really unusual. It's been like this going back to September at least.
Was I smoking crack when every single 6th edition codex had all its info leaked well before publication then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 00:50:30
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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MWHistorian wrote:Okay, I laughed out loud when I saw that Khorne demon engine. That thing is just goofy looking. It's hard to make that concept look good. It's a big guy stuck on tank tranks. It doesn't have the feel that Chaos should have (being cool looking) and doesn't fit in with the fluff. Wouldn't they have knights and titans of different sizes? Why make up something that just looks stupid? I realize that it's old school epic, but some ideas should be left to die, and this was one of them.
A lot of people disagree with you. There are tons of players on these forums who love the old-school way of 40k, when things were silly and campy. Chaos was only evil because it had sharp teeth in their smiles, and all Orks dressed like pirates. I think it's a little goofy, but I think the kit will still sell like crazy; the 2nd ed Blood Angels throwback mini sold thousands at Games Day last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 00:52:26
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kroothawk wrote:
Rumours say, it has a turret on the front. Also, DE don't fly wraith geese 
Not a turret. A canopy in the nose where the tuning fork is on the Razorwing. Still waiting for it to come out, the concept art was lovely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 05:45:03
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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MWHistorian wrote:Okay, I laughed out loud when I saw that Khorne demon engine. That thing is just goofy looking. It's hard to make that concept look good. It's a big guy stuck on tank tranks. It doesn't have the feel that Chaos should have (being cool looking) and doesn't fit in with the fluff. Wouldn't they have knights and titans of different sizes? Why make up something that just looks stupid? I realize that it's old school epic, but some ideas should be left to die, and this was one of them.
My plan is to see if I can use the tanks on back as the lower part of "legs" from the body portion and use the tracks as part of a kitbash siege engine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 06:22:05
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Foxy Wildborne
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BryllCream wrote:
Was I smoking crack when every single 6th edition codex had all its info leaked well before publication then?
Apparently, because it didn't happen. The best we got was reverse-engineering some rules and stats from WD battle reports a few days before preorders went up.
Compare this to seeing a full scan of each codex a month in advance, which was the norm 5-6 years ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 07:17:29
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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MajorWesJanson wrote:Not a turret. A canopy in the nose where the tuning fork is on the Razorwing. Still waiting for it to come out, the concept art was lovely.
Guess I missed that, and a quick google doesn't give any results. Is there anywhere this concept is online or did someone just glance it in Jes' sketchbook?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 07:54:19
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Fixture of Dakka
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brassangel wrote:. I think it's a little goofy, but I think the kit will still sell like crazy; the 2nd ed Blood Angels throwback mini sold thousands at Games Day last year.
That's not exactly what I heard... I heard they sold really quite poorly compared to the number of tickets being sold. And that they sold so badly that buy the end of the day, individual people were being invited to purchase trays of them to sell on ebay...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 08:00:24
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Compel wrote: brassangel wrote:. I think it's a little goofy, but I think the kit will still sell like crazy; the 2nd ed Blood Angels throwback mini sold thousands at Games Day last year.
That's not exactly what I heard... I heard they sold really quite poorly compared to the number of tickets being sold. And that they sold so badly that buy the end of the day, individual people were being invited to purchase trays of them to sell on ebay...
When I left they were everywhere. Loads unsold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 08:07:16
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour
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Fixture of Dakka
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Redemption wrote:MajorWesJanson wrote:Not a turret. A canopy in the nose where the tuning fork is on the Razorwing. Still waiting for it to come out, the concept art was lovely.
Guess I missed that, and a quick google doesn't give any results. Is there anywhere this concept is online or did someone just glance it in Jes' sketchbook?
No pics online. I asked Jes, but he said no pictures, as that was about the point where 3rd parties were popping up all over in poland, and Jes was annoyed at them using designs and concepts he had worked on. So I didn't get pictures of the sketches. I did spend about a half hour discussing sprue design and how the thing would be split up onto a sprue. Lhamean and Sslyth sketches were near identical to the models once they were actually released.
This conversion is probably the closest to what the sketch looked like, but the wings had slightly more area, and there was a canopy with a bombadier in the nose, where the tuning fork is.
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