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Unsure if this has been posted, But over on Faeit 212 http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/06/pricing-on-bundles-costing-more-than.html apparently some bundles are more then buying the models separate. again if it's been posted already i apologize, not digging through all the pages lol. Just trying to keep fellow gamers informed.

Yep we know, believe it was on the last page, lol.

And yet again I say: GW based the prices on the individual jetbike and viper boxes, not the squadron sets.

Using the prices for the individual sets it adds up to the bundle's cost.

How is it the templates are limited edition?

You are going to need them to play the game......

Yeah I know, I don't really get that. Like I said, if you're going to make an essential item like that limited stock you might as well do it with everything: models, rulebooks, etc.

I mean imagine if Codex: Eldar was just a limited release and once it was gone it was gone. They'd make so much money, right? Because they only have to print what they know they can sell and it's guaranteed to make a profit, just like Space Hulk did years ago. And think of the PR! You know how people often whine and complain about "bandwagoners" taking up "their" army every time an update gets put out? GW could spin it as if they were listening to fan feedback, lol. Now everyone who wants to be the Eldar player in their local scene will finally get their wish! And they could do it with every army!

GW's all about "premium", "prestige", "exclusivity", etc. Might as well go full fething hog and do it all, make it literally impossible to get into 40k at all for everyone.

Anyway, in all seriousness I think that just goes to show their confidence in this product, if they can't even be bothered to keep the templates around for Apocalypse then clearly they don't expect many people to be interested in playing it. Maybe that's why the superheavies this time around are insanely priced and we didn't get any discounted bundles, they aren't interested in making this an "event", it's just another quick cash grab and will be quickly forgotten about in just a few short months. They'll make a little money off the few suckers willing to blow $200 on single models and nearly $300 on worthless "collector's editions" that have no value unlike a real collectable, and then it's on to Space Marines! Who, just you watch, will end up getting the best-written and most horribly overpowered book out of all the 6th edition codices thus far.

dlight wrote:
How is it the templates are limited edition?

You are going to need them to play the game......

I'm guessing they will release clear grey ones or ones that are single pieces instead of clip together or something once these ones are gone.
That way people can still get them but GW get to use that 'limited edition' sticker they love so much these days.

Hmmm, GW has finally produced a Necron model I have no desire to buy....not because of the price, which is ridiculous IMO, but because I've never been a fan of Apocalypse sized games. They take too long for each turn and are not fun for me to just sit there for 30+ minutes while my opponent(s) take their turn.

 Zathras wrote:
Hmmm, GW has finally produced a Necron model I have no desire to buy....not because of the price, which is ridiculous IMO, but because I've never been a fan of Apocalypse sized games. They take too long for each turn and are not fun for me to just sit there for 30+ minutes while my opponent(s) take their turn.

I got a game of dystopian wars in the other night that was the largest I'd ever played by a wide margin but with the 'I move my squad, you move yours' back and forth mechanic it wasn't at any point boring. If I were playing a 10,000 apoc game I'd finish my turn and then head off to get lunch while my opponents did their turn, watching your opponent's turns in 2k is boring enough.

 jonolikespie wrote:

dlight wrote:
How is it the templates are limited edition?

You are going to need them to play the game......

I'm guessing they will release clear grey ones or ones that are single pieces instead of clip together or something once these ones are gone.
That way people can still get them but GW get to use that 'limited edition' sticker they love so much these days.

My thoughts exactly.

If you go over to white dwarf daily, they've said a bunch of stuff regarding the new rules, over 100 formations, chance to "field your entire collection at once", no restrictions, multiple allies, etc...

 Sidstyler wrote:
I mean imagine if Codex: Eldar was just a limited release and once it was gone it was gone.

Now imagine making the Sororitas Codex a limited release ... wait!

This guy looks like he has a blanket. All he needs is a teddy modelled in the other hand and he'll be ready for the cinematic power-nap.

The more I think about the Corn Dozer, the more I think that it's a modified Ork warmachine over anything else...

Only just seen all this...


This might very well be the most horrendous looking thing GW has put out...and not in a good way. It looks like something a child would play with. I am not f**kin impressed
The necron on the other hand

Actually the Lord of Skulls is growing on me. I never liked the Epic versions, but I think that they've made a pretty decent job of updating and upscaling them.

pgmason wrote:
Actually the Lord of Skulls is growing on me. I never liked the Epic versions, but I think that they've made a pretty decent job of updating and upscaling them.

I'd have to agree. Reading the WD, the Lord of Skulls look fun on the battlefield. Big skull-tracked warmachine chopping away at the scenery, etc.. . It's still ridiculous, but in a charming way IMO.

 Black Lantern wrote:

200$ Tonka truck !

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
It'll probably cost a lot points-wise

Quad-Auto is 50pts, so maybe Quad-Las will be 70pts?

*2 + cost of the buildng (assuming it's AV 14 small building, probably 50pts), I'd say it would cost about 190pts more or less.

not game-breaking, really.
Quad-Las will most likely just be 2 twin-linked shots, same range, str and AP of icarus las (seeming the description says 'Quad-Linked Icarus pattern Lascannons)

My guess is Land raider price range, so 240-260 points. Maybe depending on weapons, as you can swap the QLLC with the battle cannon and punisher cannons.

I think it's fine once you get rid of the awful possessed head.

On the subject of Lord of Skulls Bashing, anyone remeber Robot Wars?

Lots of people remembered it, and posted the same image on several previous pages of this thread.

I personally have warmed to the model since seeing the alternative head for it. I still think it's a bit daft, but no more daft than most of Khorne's stuff and a marked improvement on the epic scale stuff, which, whilst many remember with nostalgia, was produced whilst I was drifting away from the game during the Red Age and I thought was fairly rubbish at the time, along with that rubbish robot khorne thing with the flails on cartwheels.

Consider market research guys. The Lord of Skulls is obviously aimed at the 14 years and younger audience. Grumpy old wargamers like us aren´t the majority of customers and Apocalypse models are tailormade for the impulse buyers. Most sensible players would stay clear of these as you aren´t likely to get many games with them.

 tarnish wrote:
Consider market research guys. The Lord of Skulls is obviously aimed at the 14 years and younger audience. Grumpy old wargamers like us aren´t the majority of customers and Apocalypse models are tailormade for the impulse buyers. Most sensible players would stay clear of these as you aren´t likely to get many games with them.

14 year olds don't have 160$ to spend on a single model, nor do they tend to play apoc. Seems like market research destined to fail.

 Kirasu wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
Consider market research guys. The Lord of Skulls is obviously aimed at the 14 years and younger audience. Grumpy old wargamers like us aren´t the majority of customers and Apocalypse models are tailormade for the impulse buyers. Most sensible players would stay clear of these as you aren´t likely to get many games with them.

14 year olds don't have 160$ to spend on a single model, nor do they tend to play apoc. Seems like market research destined to fail.

You would be surprised how much money teenagers can manipulate out of their grown-ups....

I don't think there's a way to make a tank-centaur that wouldn't look daft. That being said, I still think the upper body is too humanoid. it would be better if it had sunken head like terminators and Contemptors, and the axe directly attached to the arm instead of there being a hand holding it.

And looking at the rules for the Khornemower, it appears that Strength D is still a thing. The Great Cleaver has it.

You say it like its a bad thing.

The book is out already?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
The book is out already?

Not AFAIK, but you can make out some of the stats for the Khorne titan in the WD article.

 tarnish wrote:
You would be surprised how much money teenagers can manipulate out of their grown-ups....

Is that a new trend on the internet: "I don't like it, therefore it's marketed towards 14 year old kids!" ?

You can actually make out the whole damn sheet. Also, other things still have strength D, like that Predator squadron when all their lascannons hit (presumably they are counting just the turrets).