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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/02 23:01:04
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I know that the Dark Reaper Exarch can take Flakk Missiles with his Eldar Missile launchers. So I thought oh well I suppose all Eldar Missile Launchers could have it. (Like on Wave Serpents, Falcons, Weapon Platform) But the Codex doesn't say they can. Is this true or?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/02 23:03:56
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If the model does not have the option, it cannot take Flakk missiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/02 23:04:31
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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If its only in the options for the Dark Reaper Exarch, then it stands to reason that only he can take Flakk on his EML.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/02 23:05:16
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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The codex clearly states which units can and can't take Flakk missiles.
Reaper Exarchs and War Walkers are the only ones.
Edit for clarity
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/02 23:06:58
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Well that's pretty sucky. Litteraly giving one infantry model (Not counting Warwalkers.) out of an entire army Skyfire/Flakk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 00:31:15
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That was the case with the DA as well. Only Scouts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 00:42:57
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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It's also the case with Grey Knights, Necrons, Space Wolves, etc that they lack even that. Be glad to actually 'have' skyfire options in the codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 00:47:09
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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Well, once vendettas and valks see their nerf, the need for skyfire should go down massively. I believe that is the ultimate goal. Once 6th is balanced across all the codexes, skyfire should be less of a necessity and fliers much weaker in general.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 00:52:27
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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Then what's the Devastator squad then? Scotch mist?
Edit: Sorry if that came across as rude, sarcastic humour doesn't work in text
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 01:22:20
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Muzwa wrote:
Then what's the Devastator squad then? Scotch mist?
Edit: Sorry if that came across as rude, sarcastic humour doesn't work in text
I got the joke.
Also, can't tacs take flak?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 01:23:23
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Martial Arts Fiday
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No.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 01:23:59
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 01:35:58
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Martial Arts Fiday
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I think it's so dedicated heavy support units take on the AA role instead of it being single potshots from more tactical units.
It's the same for CSMs.
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GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 01:46:42
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:I think it's so dedicated heavy support units take on the AA role instead of it being single potshots from more tactical units.
It's the same for CSMs.
And then there's Tau and eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 06:55:40
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It is suprising from going from Tau with lots and lots and lots of anti air to Eldar with basically one unit. Daemons also have a lack of anti air and CSM and DA have just flakk missiles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 07:01:12
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Daemons have skyfire on the soulgrinder.
It's not too effective though.
I would have expected a Firestorm kit or some kind of aa support gun myself .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 08:54:59
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Yes they can.
No page refs because I'm using the digital book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 11:29:53
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Executing Exarch
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Cheexsta wrote:Yes they can.
No page refs because I'm using the digital book.
Page 97, "May also take flakk missiles..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 11:44:26
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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To all those bemoaning a lack of skyfire options in their new 6th ed codexes... don't forget, you also have skyfire *on your actual flyers*. That's the intent, right there - to sell you the new goodies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 14:18:17
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Eldar are still going to get hit hard versus flyer spam lists. Unless we bring IA units, those Baleflames will murder anything on an ADL and/or Reapers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 14:27:27
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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The point of all of this is to get everyone to buy more flyers. Duh.
zephoid wrote:Well, once vendettas and valks see their nerf, the need for skyfire should go down massively. I believe that is the ultimate goal. Once 6th is balanced across all the codexes, skyfire should be less of a necessity and fliers much weaker in general.
What nerf?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 14:28:03
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Crimson Hunter Exarch is the answer for Eldar and flyers. BS5 with two brightlances and a pulse laser? Sweet. Precision shots against infantry is just a good, fun bonus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 14:41:52
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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PanzerLeader wrote:Crimson Hunter Exarch is the answer for Eldar and flyers. BS5 with two brightlances and a pulse laser? Sweet. Precision shots against infantry is just a good, fun bonus.
Don't forget he may re roll the failed shots to penetrate armor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 14:56:05
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Enigwolf - the expected nerf based on the current set of true 6th edition flyers being vastly more points, with less armament, armour or transport capacity [or some combination of those]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 15:13:23
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Ascalam wrote:Daemons have skyfire on the soulgrinder.
It's not too effective though.
I would have expected a Firestorm kit or some kind of aa support gun myself .
Be glad we don't have the piece of Gak.
6 S6 shots with Skyfire/Interceptor for 180pts?
Might as well take a Crimson Hunter or a Nightwing or anything else really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 19:56:56
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Whoever said DA TAC squands can't take flakk is flat out wrong. Looking at them right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 20:14:44
Subject: Re:Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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woops wrong thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 02:00:00
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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I believe the BRB under skyfire speaks on the sophisticated targeting systems needed to fire at fliers w accuracy. Could be wrong on the source but I know I read that somewhere.
Platforms such as war walkers EML (and Crimson Hunters) provide the stability for these systems while fast skimmers would not be able to track zooming fliers w accuracy while zipping around themselves.
The Exarch is a big baddy and in an early edition was the only one of the Reapers to invoke this privilege. Since we can field 10 reapers I think GW is attempting to keep fliers special by limiting what has sky fire. 10 reapers with flakk is kinda crazy and would blow the snot out of any flier brought to the table. To OP imho.
On the defender guardians platform perhaps anti grav does not provide the stable footing for such sophisticated targeting at zooming fliers either
That's how I interpret it but I am open to ideas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 11:47:43
Subject: Eldar Missile Launchers... Do they have flakk or not.
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Leader of the Sept
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Eldar vehicles are attuned to the crew psychically. I always vewed the crew basically lounging around telling the vehicle to "shoot that one please". There is always a way to justify anything through fluff.
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