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So, nasty thread title, I admit. But I have been waiting and waiting for this game to come down in price. I thought I looked cool and seemed to be getting rave reviews.

This game has been hyped and heavily promoted on Steam for a while now. All video reviews I watched on YouTube seemed to suggest it was a great game.

But, I've not found to be enjoyable at all, so far. In fact, quite the opposite. Getting owned by almost any monster. Doesn't seem to be a way to heal yourself other than running over the crates, if there's a healing pack in there. The guns suck. They suck real bad. Like, abysmally bad. I'm level 3 so far.

And I'm not saying you should have the best guns right at the start of the game. You shouldn't. But I'm also not seeing any kind of gameplay action or storyline hook that makes me want to continue with this game.

Usually by level 3 in a RPG or even a FPS game I've gotten some kind of hook or incentive to keep me interested in the game. But I'm just not seeing it here. And I want to, but so far this game hasn't been enjoyable at all. I've just not seen any kind of enjoyable gameplay elements here.

But I did buy it on sale, and I'm wondering, does it get better, or is it only a leveling treadmill from here on out? Is there any kind of decent gameplay here and what's up with this game? It seems like World of Warcraft turned into a FPS.

The best thing by far is that it's ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS. Beyond that... if you're only level 3 you've really not even scratched the tip of the iceberg... there's a lot to do here and you will soon notice things pick up.
At level 5 you get your class-defining ability, so at the very least stick it out til then.

If anyone else you know plays it, they can hop into your game to lend a hand.

Lastly, the classes have different ways of dealing with bad guys - at level 3 there's not much between them but if you're finding it too difficult as you get higher (say by about level 10), try someone else.

You judge a game based on less than 30 mins gameplay?

I don't remember the start of borderlands 2 being hard....

Anyway, yeah, as said before, you are judging a game based on like 15 minutes of play.

I personally couldn't bring myself to complete the 2nd playthrough, but the first wasn't too bad. I think it lacks the innate replayability of BL1 but it's made up for somewhat by the improved script writing.

Well it doesn't help that your level 3, like Super Ready said stick it out till level 5 and the game will be a little easier on you as you get your abilities.

While some parts may be difficult on your own its not really a hard game as you immediately re spawn when you die.

It also was designed with multiplayer in mind, so that while you can still do single player and enjoy it, multiplayer is were it opens up.

I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).

 Ouze wrote:
I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).

This. I was kind of 'meh' on the game throughout the frozen wasteland you start in. Once you start reconnecting with the first game's characters though and getting a little more free roam in, the game gets much funner.

Sigvatr wrote:You judge a game based on less than 30 mins gameplay?

Yeah, I kinda do. Like I said good games usually have a solid hook right from the start that keeps you wanting to play more.

LordofHats wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I found Borderlands 2 to totally suck until you get to Sanctuary (level 5ish). Stick it out, it gets better (or at least, it becomes the Borderlands experience you expect).

This. I was kind of 'meh' on the game throughout the frozen wasteland you start in. Once you start reconnecting with the first game's characters though and getting a little more free roam in, the game gets much funner.

Ok, so I'm not the only one at least. I'll give it another go and see if I can get anywhere.

It basically is Diablo in the future, with guns and a solid story. And yes, the start was rather weak. Overall, I'd have preferred to see some green areas for variety.

How are you getting your arse kicked at the start?
As long as you aren't overly stupid it shouldn't be too bad.

It depends on the class, too. My first char was Zer0 and I definitely felt 'weak', but when I re-rolled as Aston it got much easier.

Zer0 is really hard to start on tbh...
A lot weaker than the others.

Also, yeah; I found Zer0 in general to just... not be very much fun.

They wanted to have a rogue-style class that required a great deal of interactions to play, but I think they went too far and it felt more like constant work than fun. I think any of the other classes offer a much more enjoyable experience, I liked Axton and Gaige both quite a bit. and have tried them all .

I found Zer0 loads of fun...
If you max out the bloodlust tree you can be invisible for so long

Zer0 is crap unless you have a coop partner.
Krieg is more or less the same.

I concur. When I first started playing solo zero it was kinda hard. After switching to the turret guy it went much easier.

Still, I also got bored with the game quite fast.

Playing a co-op based game solo will indeed make it seem awkward, at best.

Recommended Starting Classes if solo: Commando, Mechromancer, Gunzerker.

The other three don't have a way to easily avoid gunfire or deal with being the only target for many levels. The Siren is sort of on the border, depending on which build you go with. If you are playing co-op it doesn't really matter as having an extra person to draw fire makes a big difference.

Also, the next D&D themed expansion looks like a lot of fun.

lol@D&D. Looks hilarious.

I've put a couple hours into it. The beginning of the game is much like later on in the game.

From personal experience, if you think the beginning is boring, it will stay boring for a while. Maybe very late game it just gets radically different but I'm pretty sure that's not true.

See if you can find a friend to play with. The dialogue is funny (love Claptrap) but I don't think I could play it without a friend; way too many other games out there that are better playing solo.

Ok so been playing it a bit more and it definitely got better. I got to level 10 so far. You guys were right about the powers. And that you shouldn't play it solo as well. I mainly play singleplayer games on Steam. I guess I just got frustrated with a rough start to things.

I chose the Siren class and she is best with company, it seems. So I went online and some uber veteran player that randomly joined my game was extremely generous and gave me a really nice blaster, some kind of poison submachine gun. That made a tremendous difference and it's nice to see the community is fairly good in this game. In fact all of the people that randomly joined my games were fun to game with.

Plus it definitely has a good sense of humor. Bonerfarts, lol.

I shall redact my initial post, this game is fun! =)

If you play Siren co-op, get Rez ASAP, then try out the tree on the right - avoid blight pheonix though - Phaselock that can revive freinds, and also slag, electrocute, burn, and corrode enemies is awesome. Eventually singularity can be added.

Any time I play another character I miss Phaselock.

I tried using Zer0 at fist, and did good with him but on my 2nd time around I used Maya, she rocks.

The game might be tough at first if you're not used to it, you just have to get a feel for things. What I like most about part 2 is the story and it's just a funny game all around. And the DLC stories are fun too. Maybe it's not for everyone but I enjoyed it.

What to like about this game?....try krieg the psyco and his special ability....going into rage mode with a buzzaxe is jist pure bliss...also the amount of easter eggs in the game.

Solo, Axton has to be my favorite, the turret just rocks.
But with a group I love Zero, he's very difficult to play to start with, but once you get further in, wow. With my skills, class mod, relic and gun(200% melee damage) I can deal well over 30k melee damage at level 30 xD

It's great when you max out bloodshed.
You run run around invisible annihilating enemies...

What is the best gun to get for starters?....is it the flynts tinderbox?