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 Spazz wrote:
I don't need GW to get a PDF copy of a rule book and i don't need a special app to use PDFs on my android devices.
The Only reason to buy a digital codex from GW would be easy and convenient FAQ updates.
Considering that there will be no updates for these PDFs I dont see a reason to bother picking them up.
The ibook version is over priced , but at least it offers the customer something they cant get else where.

Some of us actually prefer to purchase official copies of the codecies, especially since they're being made available.

The iBook version is only overpriced to you.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Spazz wrote:
I don't need GW to get a PDF copy of a rule book and i don't need a special app to use PDFs on my android devices.
The Only reason to buy a digital codex from GW would be easy and convenient FAQ updates.
Considering that there will be no updates for these PDFs I dont see a reason to bother picking them up.
The ibook version is over priced , but at least it offers the customer something they cant get else where.

Some of us actually prefer to purchase official copies of the codecies, especially since they're being made available.

The iBook version is only overpriced to you.

It's overpriced to me too but I'm fine with buying a copy of the codex

Tetsugaku wrote:
Lot's of piracy for GW to deal with - they may well stop releases if it gets out of control (and it will).

The format that GW chooses to use makes absolutely zero difference to piracy, since people have been sharing PDF scans of the print codexes since well before eBooks were even a thing. What the ePub format does do is give those people who want digital codexes without resorting to illegal downloads or breaking the spines of their books on their scanner the chance to actually obtain them.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Android users aren't willing to pay for anything.

I'm an Andriod user, and I'm more than happy to pay a reasonable price for eBooks.

Android users are unwilling to pay for aps simply because there are so many free alternatives. eBooks are a whole different kettle of squig.



So, kudos to GW, both for finally realising that not everyone has an iPad, and for releasing the eBook codex at an almost realistic price. It's still more expensive for Oz customers than it should be compared to the UK price, but it's a step in the right direction.

Insaniak, can you not purchase from the English site where prices are in pounds?

It's the same site. It charges depending on where in the world you are.

Which is why I don't buy Black Library eBooks. I would like to... but they want to charge me twice as much as a customer elsewhere in the world, for no good reason.

 insaniak wrote:
It's the same site. It charges depending on where in the world you are.

Which is why I don't buy Black Library eBooks. I would like to... but they want to charge me twice as much as a customer elsewhere in the world, for no good reason.

I thought that was the way it worked but wasn't sure, quite stupid sadly :-\

Got the three Carnac books. Finished the first... fortunately they are all by different authors.

Joe Parrino, horrible, writes like this, loves wordnouns, first Carnac book is ungoodbad.

 tanuvein wrote:
Got the three Carnac books. Finished the first... fortunately they are all by different authors.

Joe Parrino, horrible, writes like this, loves wordnouns, first Carnac book is ungoodbad.

I actually disagree.

It's not bad simply because be uses compound sentences. I though the style fit the Eldar well.

I'm glad you like it. I do like the story, I just hate the writing style. Especially just coming off of reading all the Path of the Eldar and Dark Eldar books as well as Masque of Vyle, I feel it doesn't pull me in as well. I may be a little harsh, though. I see what you mean with it suiting their style, as Gav Thorpe did something similar with the Exarchs, but I don't think the entire story being written that way works as well.

Just to add support as another Android user who's happy to pay for these codexes as ePub. I honestly don't think it'll make much of a difference to piracy - it's always been pretty easy to find PDFs of codexes online for those willing to go look for them.

If I had an iDevice then I wouldn't mind paying the extra for the fancy versions, but I've no intention of changing all my stuff to Apple so it's great to have pdf's available on Android a bit cheaper. It's almost as a price where I'd impulse but for armies I don't own but am interested in the fluff and rules for.

Dundas wrote:

Just to add support as another Android user who's happy to pay for these codexes as ePub. I honestly don't think it'll make much of a difference to piracy - it's always been pretty easy to find PDFs of codexes online for those willing to go look for them.

If I had an iDevice then I wouldn't mind paying the extra for the fancy versions, but I've no intention of changing all my stuff to Apple so it's great to have pdf's available on Android a bit cheaper. It's almost as a price where I'd impulse but for armies I don't own but am interested in the fluff and rules for.

Going to be interesting how they track their sales on these, as they don't really have any way of determing what OS the ePubs are going to be used on.

Anyone DL one yet that can attest to the file size? That's the only drawback for me on the iBooks so far, in that they're all very content rich and rather large.

@Tanuvein - I can see where the style wouldn't fit everyone; I was just trying to say it wasn't 'bad.' I agree there are places in the prose where he could remove a comma or two, but it isn't egregious to me. Like you said, however, the story is really well done so far. I only DLed Nightspear and after being pleasantly surprised (by both content and length) I'll be getting the next two to read tonight.

I might be picking up the eBook Eldar Codex this weekend... idk though.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I might be picking up the eBook Eldar Codex this weekend... idk though.

Let us all know the file size if you do! Anxious to see it.

FYI, the eldar codex in general is really fantastic! It reads really, really well.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I might be picking up the eBook Eldar Codex this weekend... idk though.

Let us all know the file size if you do! Anxious to see it.

FYI, the eldar codex in general is really fantastic! It reads really, really well.

It mostly depends on whether or not I want to pick up Eldar, I love the look of the models and I like what I've seen so far, but everyone in my play group plays them :-\

 insaniak wrote:
It's the same site. It charges depending on where in the world you are.

I thought it charged based on where your credit card was from. It might be possible to get a pre-paid debit card from some other country and you can switch your account over.

I picked up a copy. The epub is 282mb. The mobi version in excess of 400mb.

It's the print codex reformatted to a simpler layout. However they did the bare minimum work required to format it, and there are numerous instances of a page containing only 2 or 3 lines. They could have easily put a little bit more work in and made the unit entries in the list fit on one page a piece, but instead most of the aspect squads spread two pages with the second containing little more than the option to buy a serpent.

But as a cheap(er), legal, digital equivalent to the codex it suits my needs fine and I'll likely be buying them in place of hard copies from now on.

Chrysis wrote:
I picked up a copy. The epub is 282mb. The mobi version in excess of 400mb.

It's the print codex reformatted to a simpler layout. However they did the bare minimum work required to format it, and there are numerous instances of a page containing only 2 or 3 lines. They could have easily put a little bit more work in and made the unit entries in the list fit on one page a piece, but instead most of the aspect squads spread two pages with the second containing little more than the option to buy a serpent.

But as a cheap(er), legal, digital equivalent to the codex it suits my needs fine and I'll likely be buying them in place of hard copies from now on.

Do they have any sample photos of this new layout?

Chrysis wrote:

It's the print codex reformatted to a simpler layout. However they did the bare minimum work required to format it, and there are numerous instances of a page containing only 2 or 3 lines. They could have easily put a little bit more work in and made the unit entries in the list fit on one page a piece, but instead most of the aspect squads spread two pages with the second containing little more than the option to buy a serpent.

There really isn't much that BL/GW can do about that with epub & mobi. These formats have very little in the way of formatting control. That is left to the displaying device, so if you want them to fit on one page; tell your eReader application to use a smaller font.

Why oh why couldn't they simply have used pdf????

 jlong05 wrote:
Why oh why couldn't they simply have used pdf????

Why would you want PDF over the epub or mobi? Takes a ton longer to loan and they're often times much larger files since it's all imaged.

and pdf's suck on e-readers,

the main previous complaint has been iPad only, so it would have been very annoying to just open stuff up to tablets

 cincydooley wrote:

 jlong05 wrote:
Why oh why couldn't they simply have used pdf????

Why would you want PDF over the epub or mobi? Takes a ton longer to loan and they're often times much larger files since it's all imaged.

Because, as listed in previous comments, having it load single lines of text or partial units and upgrades to me is a waste. While I understand the need for this on true ereaders, having them create the files in mobi, epub, and pdf would have been more ideal as it would have opened better for all devices.

Personally I have an iPad, and have the Tau codex version, but if they had done a pdf of Eldar I would have gone with that as the epub/mobi formatting would annoy me to no end. I like knowing that I can find specific rules on specific pages, and the mobi/epub(hell, even special iPad) versions do not match pages up to print codexes. A true PDF would have.

Also the file size of an optimized pdf is like 25 megs, versus that 300-400 listed above for sizes.

More feedback on the 3 new Eldar short stories?

 Breotan wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
It's the same site. It charges depending on where in the world you are.

I thought it charged based on where your credit card was from. It might be possible to get a pre-paid debit card from some other country and you can switch your account over.

Possible, but not worth the effort. If the Black Library doesn't want me to buy their product, there are plenty of other books out there that I can read instead.

I'll read the 2nd and 3rd tonight Kroot, and let you know.

 cincydooley wrote:

Chrysis wrote:
I picked up a copy. The epub is 282mb. The mobi version in excess of 400mb.

It's the print codex reformatted to a simpler layout. However they did the bare minimum work required to format it, and there are numerous instances of a page containing only 2 or 3 lines. They could have easily put a little bit more work in and made the unit entries in the list fit on one page a piece, but instead most of the aspect squads spread two pages with the second containing little more than the option to buy a serpent.

But as a cheap(er), legal, digital equivalent to the codex it suits my needs fine and I'll likely be buying them in place of hard copies from now on.

Do they have any sample photos of this new layout?

They have a sample pic of the Avatar's unit entry. There's a lot of wasted white-space that could have been better utilized to get all the entries on one page, including line spacing. I assume the reason they haven't is so that it is usable by people on smartphones.

It's not a huge issue, it's just one of those minor irritations. Although I'd hate to see what a unit entry like Chosen looks like.

Just finished Sky Hunter, the second Carnac campaign book. It was really good. I liked the writing a lot more than the first (though I'm growing more fond of the first as I reflect on it), though the story itself wasn't quite as good. It's shaping up to be an excellent series. I'm quite glad it was released and that I managed to notice it.

I like that it has an appearance from Thirianna from the Path of the Eldar series. Makes it feel a little more connected to me.

Edit: My only complaint with the second story is the ridiculous names. It's more of a nitpick than anything, but they are pretty bad.

 tanuvein wrote:
Just finished Sky Hunter, the second Carnac campaign book. It was really good. I liked the writing a lot more than the first (though I'm growing more fond of the first as I reflect on it), though the story itself wasn't quite as good. It's shaping up to be an excellent series. I'm quite glad it was released and that I managed to notice it.

I like that it has an appearance from Thirianna from the Path of the Eldar series. Makes it feel a little more connected to me.

Edit: My only complaint with the second story is the ridiculous names. It's more of a nitpick than anything, but they are pretty bad.

Who's the writer on it? Haven't DLed it yet :-)

Graeme Lyon. First story I've read by this person.

 tanuvein wrote:
Graeme Lyon. First story I've read by this person.

That seems to be how they try new authors out. I like it a lot.