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 sweetdaddyg wrote:
I made the mistake of buying codex astartes

It is just a 12 page or so brief explanation of what a space marine is.

Really really awful product.

So, it's not even a reprint of the original index astartes stuff??? Super lame and very much a terrible money grab by GW. The title alone lends one to believe its an ebook version of the prior title. Very sad. If I were you I would contact apple ASAP and complain and demand a refunds for the product as it is a misleading title and info.

Well this was unexpected.

Eldar codex up on BL, for android ios and kindle

http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/codex-eldar.html

yeah,
What's unexpected is that the elda codex is cheaper from black library than it is on iBook!!
Super Special Reverse iPad Whining commencing in 5... 4 ... ..

Panic...

I doff my hat to GW for the first time in many years. It had to be cheaper than the flashy iPad version - the ebook format is very basic.

 Panic wrote:
yeah,
What's unexpected is that the elda codex is cheaper from black library than it is on iBook!!
Super Special Reverse iPad Whining commencing in 5... 4 ... ..

Panic...

Not really, remember the ipad codex is an interactive ebook; and the only way to have than on an ipad is to use Apples ibooks data format, which you can only sell through Itunes.
Since BL says this will also work on a iPad; I think the BL digital codex will be a strait up "port" of the print codex and not the fully interactive version the ipad has.
Also remember that Apple takes a 30% cut of anything sold though the iTunes store, So that $50 iPad digital codex brings GW about $35... and BL is charging $32.99. So GW is getting about the same amount of money.

I'm sure they're watching the sales (and the visible piracy rates)

The android crew have moaned about iPad exclusivity, but will they actually pay for the codex

If this is not reasonably success full I wonder if GW will bother releasing any other ebook codex versions

Black Library wrote:
There will be plenty more on the way for Android and Kindle very soon.

on a comment/thread on their FB page.

 Temujin wrote:
I doff my hat to GW for the first time in many years. It had to be cheaper than the flashy iPad version - the ebook format is very basic.

That is a good point. I had attributed it to piracy concerns but pricing the book according to its actual utility is a good reason... which is surprising as GW isn't exactly known for commonly using "good reasons" in determining prices.

No whining from this iPad owner. I'll gladly pay the full price for the links and all the extras I get from the iBook.

Love this move from GW btw. Wow. Very surprised.

Looks horrid to me. I own an iPad and I've still yet to see anything that makes me want to buy either these or the iBooks codex. Also the think about this version being ipad compatible is because there's a kindle app for the ipad (and possibly other ereaders too). I'll reserve judgement on the price when I see the lower price point become regular. This smacks of an introductory price for the new format.

Bloodwin wrote:
Looks horrid to me. I own an iPad and I've still yet to see anything that makes me want to buy either these or the iBooks codex. Also the think about this version being ipad compatible is because there's a kindle app for the ipad (and possibly other ereaders too). I'll reserve judgement on the price when I see the lower price point become regular. This smacks of an introductory price for the new format.

What the hell are you talking about?

It's a reduced price from the printed coded price of $50. It's the PDF version EVERYONE has been clamoring about since they first released the iBooks.

If you own an iPad and you don't see the benefit of having your codecies on the iPad in the first place, then you probably won't ever "get" it.

Additionally, this has nothing to do with the Kindle app. Android devices can read .ePub, just like the iPad can.

Honestly, your post reeks of bitching for bitchings sake.

I'm having trouble seeing how this isn't a positive move in every aspect for GW codex publishing.

It's cheaper because it's half the product the IOS version is.

No interactive features, such as the rule quick reference.

No updating with new FAQs and removed errata

Lot's of piracy for GW to deal with - they may well stop releases if it gets out of control (and it will).

 cincydooley wrote:

Bloodwin wrote:
Looks horrid to me. I own an iPad and I've still yet to see anything that makes me want to buy either these or the iBooks codex. Also the think about this version being ipad compatible is because there's a kindle app for the ipad (and possibly other ereaders too). I'll reserve judgement on the price when I see the lower price point become regular. This smacks of an introductory price for the new format.

What the hell are you talking about?

It's a reduced price from the printed coded price of $50. It's the PDF version EVERYONE has been clamoring about since they first released the iBooks.

If you own an iPad and you don't see the benefit of having your codecies on the iPad in the first place, then you probably won't ever "get" it.

Additionally, this has nothing to do with the Kindle app. Android devices can read .ePub, just like the iPad can.

Honestly, your post reeks of bitching for bitchings sake.

I'm having trouble seeing how this isn't a positive move in every aspect for GW codex publishing.

First of all... lol and well said. Second of all. I'm happy to FINALLY see this out on for the other tablets and a cheaper price! I personally own an iPad and enjoy when you get in the iBook, but that said $50 is a lot and it's hard for me to justify buying every codex now with the price.

 Deacis657 wrote:

First of all... lol and well said. Second of all. I'm happy to FINALLY see this out on for the other tablets and a cheaper price! I personally own an iPad and enjoy when you get in the eBook, but that said $50 is a lot and it's hard for me to justify buying every codex now with the price.

Yes. I used to buy every codex as they came out, but $50 has put a stop to that. It is a bit better that they are at $41.00 now for the epub, I can impulse buy at this level
We will see if people buy this or not. I won't because I already have the Eldar codex in iBook format, but it is nice to know that we are not tied to the iPad format from here on out.

Tetsugaku wrote:
It's cheaper because it's half the product the IOS version is.

No interactive features, such as the rule quick reference.

No updating with new FAQs and removed errata

Lot's of piracy for GW to deal with - they may well stop releases if it gets out of control (and it will).

All of these "missing features" describes something that GW already sells at for 50 bucks, it's call the physical book version of the Codex...

It's cheaper than the dead tree format of the codex, which is all I care about. They can shove fancy links, pop up rules, 360 no-scopes of models, but at the end of the day I'm paying for a rulebook, and 1 out of 2 rulebooks I need to play the game. 32.99 is more in line with what I would want to pay for a Codex, and if it means I have to go digital, then so be it.

Unfortunately it is $41.00 in the US, not 32.99

I call bull, I'm looking at it right now, and it clearly states 32.99.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I call bull, I'm looking at it right now, and it clearly states 32.99.

Sorry, you are right.
I had clicked on the link for the full 'collection' including the three short stories.
So $32.99 for just the codex.

 Alfndrate wrote:


All of these "missing features" describes something that GW already sells at for 50 bucks, it's call the physical book version of the Codex...

It's cheaper than the dead tree format of the codex, which is all I care about. They can shove fancy links, pop up rules, 360 no-scopes of models, but at the end of the day I'm paying for a rulebook, and 1 out of 2 rulebooks I need to play the game. 32.99 is more in line with what I would want to pay for a Codex, and if it means I have to go digital, then so be it.

No doubt - it still makes the IOS version better, which is why it costs more. I'd much rather have the most up to date rule book rather than chasing through multiple versions of FAQ PDFs and errata releases - I'd rather just tap a phrase than leaf through a paper book for 30 seconds to find a clarification of a rule. How valuable is your time? Surely a lot more than £10?

Tetsugaku wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
All of these "missing features" describes something that GW already sells at for 50 bucks, it's call the physical book version of the Codex...

It's cheaper than the dead tree format of the codex, which is all I care about. They can shove fancy links, pop up rules, 360 no-scopes of models, but at the end of the day I'm paying for a rulebook, and 1 out of 2 rulebooks I need to play the game. 32.99 is more in line with what I would want to pay for a Codex, and if it means I have to go digital, then so be it.

No doubt - it still makes the IOS version better, which is why it costs more. I'd much rather have the most up to date rule book rather than chasing through multiple versions of FAQ PDFs and errata releases - I'd rather just tap a phrase than leaf through a paper book for 30 seconds to find a clarification of a rule. How valuable is your time? Surely a lot more than £10?

Downloading the latest errata to my Kindle Fire from the GW website takes just as much time and preparation as it does for you to update your iBook release, and I can put my ebook file on my phone, my Kindle Fire, and my iPod with a single purchase, and get exactly what I need, the rules. If I need to download the errata and FAQs before an event, I check the night before to ensure what I have printed off/downloaded is what they have on their site, if not I redownload or print off new copies. The iOS version is not "saving me time" because I would still need to update the file.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but by doing distro through this, you need to simply know your Black Library account information to re-download it on a device, with Apple, you have to have your apple account AND you have to be an authorized device yes?

Edit: In the end, this can only be a good thing because getting digital copies of products to a wider market base is only going to help GW in the long run you can have your fancy iBooks codex with all of the features that aren't needed (though the added fixes for errata, etc... is nice), and I'll have my easy to use eBook version that will let me play the game in an affordable manner... Also I don't need a $400 product to display the book.

 vitki wrote:
Unfortunately it is $41.00 in the US, not 32.99

When I go to BL website im seeing it's $32.99 not $41.00 for the US

Android users aren't willing to pay for anything.

I know this for a fact, I make mobile games, publish to all tablets, and Android is the *only* platform where I have to just give up and make the games free and plastered with ads, because almost no-one who owns an android product is willing to pay for anything.

I imagine most people who asked for an android version will be looking to pirate, same as usual.

I don't see it mentioned in this thread, but along with the Eldar codex going up on black library, 3 new Eldar short stories went up.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-eldar-collection

I'm downloading them now and will be reading them soonish, though I don't recognize the author. I apologize for originally making another thread for this topic, not too familiar with this forum.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Android users aren't willing to pay for anything.

I know this for a fact, I make mobile games, publish to all tablets, and Android is the *only* platform where I have to just give up and make the games free and plastered with ads, because almost no-one who owns an android product is willing to pay for anything.

I imagine most people who asked for an android version will be looking to pirate, same as usual.

This is a fact I forgot, I use to own an android. : (... But it's still nice to see a cheaper price.

 Alfndrate wrote:


Downloading the latest errata to my Kindle Fire from the GW website takes just as much time and preparation as it does for you to update your iBook release, and I can put my ebook file on my phone, my Kindle Fire, and my iPod with a single purchase, and get exactly what I need, the rules. If I need to download the errata and FAQs before an event, I check the night before to ensure what I have printed off/downloaded is what they have on their site, if not I redownload or print off new copies. The iOS version is not "saving me time" because I would still need to update the file.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but by doing distro through this, you need to simply know your Black Library account information to re-download it on a device, with Apple, you have to have your apple account AND you have to be an authorized device yes?

Edit: In the end, this can only be a good thing because getting digital copies of products to a wider market base is only going to help GW in the long run you can have your fancy iBooks codex with all of the features that aren't needed (though the added fixes for errata, etc... is nice), and I'll have my easy to use eBook version that will let me play the game in an affordable manner... Also I don't need a $400 product to display the book.

I'm not trying to start an argument here but how on earth does the process you describe save you time over my process, which is quite literally hitting a single button marked "Update All", on any of my devices laptop, phone, or ipad? I never need to check anything, a little red number appears and tells me there are updates available, I don't even look at what they are any more I just hit go. No ID's required, no passwords, no nothing, just a button.

I share my itunes account across my house and we've yet to run out of authorised devices, I think the limit is 10.

I suppose you'd be right if I only used my £700 ipad to access ebooks but of course I use it for far, far more than that.

 tanuvein wrote:
I don't see it mentioned in this thread, but along with the Eldar codex going up on black library, 3 new Eldar short stories went up.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/the-eldar-collection

I'm downloading them now and will be reading them soonish, though I don't recognize the author. I apologize for originally making another thread for this topic, not too familiar with this forum.

No problem, it's an easy mistake to make

(and I hadn't spotted the short stories so thanks for that )

Tetsugaku wrote:
I'm not trying to start an argument here but how on earth does the process you describe save you time over my process, which is quite literally hitting a single button marked "Update All", on any of my devices laptop, phone, or ipad? I never need to check anything, a little red number appears and tells me there are updates available, I don't even look at what they are any more I just hit go. No ID's required, no passwords, no nothing, just a button.

Whenever I update an app on my iPod, I have to enter my iTunes account password, and as for saving time... Bookmarks are a great thing, click the GW errata page bookmark, see my army's update and when it was last updated, bam! 30 seconds and I'm done, 90 seconds if I have to actually download something, and even then I can set my phone or Kindle down, same as you. Or I could just bookmark the pdf page and download it whenever I visit that page.

But this is a debate for another thread, the point here is you're arguing that you are more than happy to pay more for literally the ability to "update" your codex, pop up rules, links, and 360 rotation of the models, all limited to a single style of device. I'm curious as to what might happen if GW cuts their ties with iBooks and Apple, especially if this takes off.

 Alfndrate wrote:

Tetsugaku wrote:
I'm not trying to start an argument here but how on earth does the process you describe save you time over my process, which is quite literally hitting a single button marked "Update All", on any of my devices laptop, phone, or ipad? I never need to check anything, a little red number appears and tells me there are updates available, I don't even look at what they are any more I just hit go. No ID's required, no passwords, no nothing, just a button.

Whenever I update an app on my iPod, I have to enter my iTunes account password, and as for saving time... Bookmarks are a great thing, click the GW errata page bookmark, see my army's update and when it was last updated, bam! 30 seconds and I'm done, 90 seconds if I have to actually download something, and even then I can set my phone or Kindle down, same as you. Or I could just bookmark the pdf page and download it whenever I visit that page.

But this is a debate for another thread, the point here is you're arguing that you are more than happy to pay more for literally the ability to "update" your codex, pop up rules, links, and 360 rotation of the models, all limited to a single style of device. I'm curious as to what might happen if GW cuts their ties with iBooks and Apple, especially if this takes off.

Not to like, be THAT guy, but all that updating will be gone in about 2 months when iOS7 hits.

I'd happily pay the extra price for the quick links and the pop up rules.

I don't need GW to get a PDF copy of a rule book and i don't need a special app to use PDFs on my android devices.
The Only reason to buy a digital codex from GW would be easy and convenient FAQ updates.
Considering that there will be no updates for these PDFs I dont see a reason to bother picking them up.
The ibook version is over priced , but at least it offers the customer something they cant get else where.

I didn't drool over the Apple presentation where they announced iOS7, because I was busy having a life Wanna PM me wtf you're talking about?

I guess never having been on "that" side of the codex line, I can't fathom what makes quick links and pop up rules all that useful... And is it really almost 20 dollars useful?


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 Spazz wrote:
I don't need GW to get a PDF copy of a rule book and i don't need a special app to use PDFs on my android devices.
The Only reason to buy a digital codex from GW would be easy and convenient FAQ updates.
Considering that there will be no updates for these PDFs I dont see a reason to bother picking them up.
The ibook version is over priced , but at least it offers the customer something they cant get else where.

You may need GW, but we are still talking about people that operate within the lines of Piracy and are willing to pay for a product that they want in a form that they want. Like I said a few posts ago, everyone has their own preferred method, I prefer a physical copy of a book, but if the digital codex is cheaper, I'll gladly pay that price for it.