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Asterion Moloc.

When you think 'badass', the very definition of it is someone who sticks his finger up at 'the man', ignores all the rules and just goes and does it his way anyway in typically heroic fashion. Generally these people are anti-heroes, those people we shouldn't really want to get behind but we just can't help it.

Moloc is renowned for his brutal tactical prowess, genuinely enjoys the utter annihilation of his foes, can't be bothered to lend his time to other chapters and their meaningless strategical meetings so instead sends his High Chaplain to do his bidding while he sits on his throne aboard his ship feeling uber manly, and he is the Chapter Master of the only chapter charged with hunting down and murdering his own kind - Space Marines.

He's the guy the High Lords of Terra call when nobody else has the stomach for it, and on top of all that he does it all while looking like Space Spartacus.

The guy's an a-hole... but you gotta love him.

Enceladus wrote:
Asterion Moloc.

When you think 'badass', the very definition of it is someone who sticks his finger up at 'the man', ignores all the rules

So what, when in WWII a soldier said "I'm the 82nd Airborne, and this is as far as the bastards are going."... and then they lived up to that boast... they weren't being badass because they were following orders to hold the line?

 Melissia wrote:

Enceladus wrote:
Asterion Moloc.

When you think 'badass', the very definition of it is someone who sticks his finger up at 'the man', ignores all the rules

So what, when in WWII a soldier said "I'm the 82nd Airborne, and this is as far as the bastards are going."... and then they lived up to that boast... they weren't being badass because they were following orders to hold the line?

He's in the rebellious chaotic good phase of life, don't worry, soon he'll be lawful evil like the rest of us.

Er, Asterion Moloc does follow his orders. He does what the High Lords of Terra ask of his chapter, them being the Imperium's sanction force (Specializing in the subjugation of other Space Marine chapters, and in doing the dirtiest, most brutal jobs, he is somewhat similar to what the pre-Heresy Space Wolves said was their role).

He also just happens to enjoy murder somewhat more than the average Imperial soldier.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
Ollanius Pius is a punk bitch ephemeral, one of the original Argonauts.

No, no, no. We're talking about Ollanius Pius, the original Pius, not that thing that Abnett has created. Ollanius Pius was a regular human Imperial army soldier in the original story he appeared in. I couldn't care less what the BL authors have written, there can only be one Pius for me and he is not that thing in the HH series.

Thus, to me, Ollanius Pius, the original version, is the most badass person in 40k. Closely followed by the regular Imperial Guardsman.

Yeaaaah, the Horus Heresy is kind of lame like that.

A guardsman from DDOK. There uniform is badass

Melissia wrote:

Enceladus wrote:
Asterion Moloc.

When you think 'badass', the very definition of it is someone who sticks his finger up at 'the man', ignores all the rules

So what, when in WWII a soldier said "I'm the 82nd Airborne, and this is as far as the bastards are going."... and then they lived up to that boast... they weren't being badass because they were following orders to hold the line?

same with the 21 Sikhs of Saragarhi during the Tirah Campaign. "Badass" doesn't by any means require rule breaking, just being badass, usually through displaying balls of adamantium and/or ceramite.

Or the 50 Bombay Sappers in Bob Napiers forces at the battle of Magdala, who saw off several thousand Abyssinian warriors at bayonet point without losing a man. Sikh's were too badass. Should be grateful there isn't a 40k Guard regiment based on them or it'd make Astartes look puny

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:
Or the 50 Bombay Sappers in Bob Napiers forces at the battle of Magdala, who saw off several thousand Abyssinian warriors at bayonet point without losing a man. Sikh's were too badass. Should be grateful there isn't a 40k Guard regiment based on them or it'd make Astartes look puny

A Sikh based IG regiment would be extremely interesting. The Sikhs went from being pacifists to a small army of elite warriors that just owned the Muslims invading from what is now Afghanistan and they totally dominated the local Hindu warlords.

Sparks_Havelock wrote:Or the 50 Bombay Sappers in Bob Napiers forces at the battle of Magdala, who saw off several thousand Abyssinian warriors at bayonet point without losing a man. Sikh's were too badass. Should be grateful there isn't a 40k Guard regiment based on them or it'd make Astartes look puny

20 primarchs and one emperor.
21 sikhs.

Coincidence? Probably, but it's nice to imagine

Haha good point, never thought of that before

 Sparks_Havelock wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
Ollanius Pius is a punk bitch ephemeral, one of the original Argonauts.

No, no, no. We're talking about Ollanius Pius, the original Pius, not that thing that Abnett has created. Ollanius Pius was a regular human Imperial army soldier in the original story he appeared in. I couldn't care less what the BL authors have written, there can only be one Pius for me and he is not that thing in the HH series.

Thus, to me, Ollanius Pius, the original version, is the most badass person in 40k. Closely followed by the regular Imperial Guardsman.

This a thousand times over. A small bit from 1d4chan that explains Pius pretty accurately...

Look at this Guardsman.

He's spent months fighting a grueling war in which his enemies are demigods allied with daemons, and now he's found himself in the closest thing to Hell he's ever known. He probably wasn't even supposed to get teleported up to the arch-traitor's battle barge in the first place, and just ended up in the wrong place at the worst possible time.

Somehow he's survived horrors beyond comprehension to make his way to the very bridge of Horus' flagship. He saw a veritable angel call upon Horus to answer for his crimes, and he saw that angel die as messily as any guardsman. His Emperor - who he fervently believes is a god incarnate, even if he's not supposed to - lies mortally wounded, and Horus, perhaps, has taken a moment to gloat before he strikes the killing blow.

His armor is slightly more effective than tissue paper, his weapon slightly more powerful than a flashlight. A single electrified claw from Horus' weapon is bigger than his entire body. He stands before a being infused by the dark gods' with incalculable power, that can and will obliterate his soul with no more effort than it would take him to swat a gnat. Nothing he can do could possibly make a difference.

He could run. He could turn his weapon on himself. He could give in to the insidious whispers that echo from the ship's corridors into his mind.

Ollanius Pius does the duty his Emperor requires of him. He dies standing and holds the line.

If that doesn't inspire you to fight to the death, I don't know what will

i would have to say Scout Trooper "Ven" Mkvenner form the Tanith First and only.This dude stayed behind on a chaos held planet and kicked some major A$$!!

I wonder how many people here have actually read Ollanius Pius' real fluff, lol.

I used to be in the same camp as you guys, then I was pointed to the original Pius fluff and was like, "Wow, is that what everyone was so hyped up about? Some face on a flag with a line of fluff?"

Back then there wasn't even any indication that Ollanius Pius was real, much less an uber badass.

Also, the votes for "the average Imperial Guardsman" are hilarious. So the random guardsman who has piss dribbling down his leg as he sobs in the fetal position in the middle of a Chaos incursion is the most badass character? Interesting.

But that one line is all that is needed.

A normal human just did what no normal human has ever done since. He stood up to the veritable avatar of all 4 dark gods by himself with nothing more than balls of steel.

It was a truly hopeless fight as well. Its rare that guardsmen fight a truly hopeless fight. No guardsmen has had to face anything on par with Horus. Not even one of the Daemon Primarchs would compare to Horus at that moment.

Assuming he existed of course.

Which, considering the setting, he almost certainly did not, ohohohohohoho.

The Apex Twins! So "the Shining"-ish creepy with god powers.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
I wonder how many people here have actually read Ollanius Pius' real fluff, lol.

I used to be in the same camp as you guys, then I was pointed to the original Pius fluff and was like, "Wow, is that what everyone was so hyped up about? Some face on a flag with a line of fluff?"

Back then there wasn't even any indication that Ollanius Pius was real, much less an uber badass.

Also, the votes for "the average Imperial Guardsman" are hilarious. So the random guardsman who has piss dribbling down his leg as he sobs in the fetal position in the middle of a Chaos incursion is the most badass character? Interesting.

It's the lack of fluff that makes him so awesome. Because we all know, if he had any more fluff than that GW would screw it up. Like BL did. Badly.

 washout77 wrote:

It's the lack of fluff that makes him so awesome. Because we all know, if he had any more fluff than that GW would screw it up. Like BL did. Badly.

That's pretty much what made him badass. Nothing special, just a random guy going this and standing up to horus.

As to the new BL fluff on him, not a fan, but would rather have him than not have him