Alleged Pick Up Artist Guide Kickstarter'd

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**MrDwhitey**

Mods, if this is going way too far in posting, please delete ASAP, ta! If not, some of it is potentially NSFW but I've changed the naughty words to *.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tofutofu/above-the-game-a-guide-to-getting-awesome-with-wom

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/above-the-game-kickstarter-tofutofu_n_3466538.html

Now, I've only seen a few excerpts from this book, but what I've seen sorta horrifies me.

Spoiler:

A post the writer made:

Spoiler:

**daedalus**

This thread will end well.

I always read stuff like this, and I don't understand:

a) how it could possibly work
b) what kind of people honestly do stuff like this
c) how people don't get beat to gak/maced in the process

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Uh, and when I say I always "read stuff like this", I mean, "read articles talking about the things these people do", not things like the guide referenced in the article.

**timetowaste85**

My best friend in HS was friends with a guy who said the best pickup line ever was "hey, get over here and sit on my ****". Supposedly it worked. I have my doubts, as he was a fugly douche, but no way to prove or disprove it. Oh well, didn't stop me from talking his sister into my bed a couple times.

A pickup line I actually used (AND IT WORKED!!) was while dancing with a girl in college, I asked her if she'd like to go back to my place and finish the dance horizontally. We left and had a physical relationship for the next week. Tons of fun. I swear it worked, even though it should have gotten me slapped hard!

-my wording is to keep the MODs from censoring my posts. I'd rather use more colorful language, but I'll behave.

**hotsauceman1**

All i see is "A guide to getting punched in the face and/or kicked in the groin"

**daedalus**

Well, a creepy guy dressed as a Jester I met while drunk and stumbling around at a renn faire once suggested to me that if you just walked up to every girl on a college campus and politely asked her if she wanted to feth, you'd get turned down a lot, but statistically, you'd still wind up getting laid more than anyone else around.

That, surprisingly, is a true story.

**Monster Rain**

timetowaste85 wrote:
My best friend in HS was friends with a guy who said the best pickup line ever was "hey, get over here and sit on my ****". Supposedly it worked. I have my doubts, as he was a fugly douche, but no way to prove or disprove it.

It's probably a numbers game.

You know, going through the 99 nos to get to the one yes. See below.

daedalus wrote:
Well, a creepy guy dressed as a Jester I met while drunk and stumbling around at a renn faire once suggested to me that if you just walked up to every girl on a college campus and politely asked her if she wanted to feth, you'd get turned down a lot, but statistically, you'd still wind up getting laid more than anyone else around.

That, surprisingly, is a true story.

Not that walking around doing this doesn't make you an Alpha Class douchebag.

**daedalus**

Monster Rain wrote:

Not that walking around doing this doesn't make you an Alpha Class douchebag.

Hey, I just tell the stories.

The bizarre thing is that he just walked up to me and my girlfriend at the time, said that, and then walked away. Neither of us had any clue who he was.

It was pretty surreal.

**hotsauceman1**

Y'know the girls that fall for this, I wouldnt even want to date

**Sigvatr**

Pick up techniques work. It's scary, but they do. All pick-up techniques basically boil down to exploiting feminine instincts as women are (and dear god, that's proven and refers to the average!) more likely to take a submissive role when confronted with men.

Some of these techniques seem...odd, however. Overall, though, it's about pacing and leading the female.

It feels immoral and I'd even say it is...it's odd and it is frightening to see that even after so many, many years, we still have some really primal instincts in us. Like men falling for boobs.

**Ma55ter_fett**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know the girls that fall for this, I wouldnt even want to date

I don't think dateing is the goal if you buy and use the "advice" given in that book.

**Seaward**

I'll save you guys some money and do Seaward's handy guide:

1) Be a fighter pilot.

Congrats, you're done.

**Sigvatr**

Ma55ter_fett wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know the girls that fall for this, I wouldnt even want to date

I don't think dateing is the goal if you buy and use the "advice" given in that book.

The aim of every Pick-Up technique is getting laid. Not more, not less. Regardless of what pick up artists claim it is.

**kronk**

Seaward wrote:
I'll save you guys some money and do Seaward's handy guide:

1) Be a fighter pilot.

Congrats, you're done.

2. Become an astronaut.

3. Buy a girl a drink and offer to show her your astro-nuts.

4. winning.

**Alfndrate**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know the girls that fall for this, I wouldnt even want to date

You are most definitely NOT the target audience for this book. This guide is to get you liz-aid on the quick...

And yes, I did just said liz-aid...

**kronk**

MR has the right of it. It's a numbers game.

There are so many "How to get laid" books out there, this KS is a joke.

Kronk's tip: Be yourself. Find your balls and talk to chicks instead of being unsociable.

It doesn't hurt that I'm fething handsome, either.

**hotsauceman1**

kronk wrote:
MR has the right of it. It's a numbers game.

There are so many "How to get laid" books out there, this KS is a joke.

Kronk's tip: Be yourself. Find your balls and talk to chicks instead of being unsociable.

It doesn't hurt that I'm fething handsome, either.

What if you are a girl looking for a girl? find your ovaries?

**Alfndrate**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
kronk wrote:
MR has the right of it. It's a numbers game.

There are so many "How to get laid" books out there, this KS is a joke.

Kronk's tip: Be yourself. Find your balls and talk to chicks instead of being unsociable.

It doesn't hurt that I'm fething handsome, either.

What if you are a girl looking for a girl? find your ovaries?

Balls are still required as one does not pick up a lady without some level of cajones.

**hotsauceman1**

So should I got to wallmart and pick up some beach balls?

**kronk**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
So should I got to wallmart and pick up some beach balls?

I thought you were a dude.

**Frazzled**

daedalus wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:

Not that walking around doing this doesn't make you an Alpha Class douchebag.

Hey, I just tell the stories.

The bizarre thing is that he just walked up to me and my girlfriend at the time, said that, and then walked away. Neither of us had any clue who he was.

It was pretty surreal.

Would he say that to the married ones? I mean its not like if you said that to the wife while I was there I wouldn't stab you twenty seven times or anything...

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Spoiler:

"Pull out your **** and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your ****.”

Whats fun is that at this point its now self defense and she can stab you twenty seven times.

**kronk**

Frazzled wrote:

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Spoiler:

"Pull out your **** and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your ****.”

Whats fun is that at this point its now self defense and she can stab you twenty seven times.

Not only that, she now has your **** in her hands. Chicks usually have sharp nails. I don't think this is a good plan.

**Lint**

1) Be a fighter pilot.

Congrats, you're done.

2. Become an astronaut.

3. Buy a girl a drink and offer to show her your astro-nuts.

4. winning.

Those all sound good, but really all you have to do is wear a wedding ring. No joke. It's freaking magnet for girls that are DTF.

What if you are a girl looking for a girl? find your ovaries?

Nah just buy em a couple drinks. Everybody knows it's a proven fact that all women are 3 drinks away from a lesbian experience.

**Frazzled**

kronk wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Spoiler:

"Pull out your **** and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your ****.”

Whats fun is that at this point its now self defense and she can stab you twenty seven times.

Not only that, she now has your **** in her hands. Chicks usually have sharp nails. I don't think this is a good plan.

She could also legitimately go straight to "operation Bobbitt" mode...

I'm stuck on the knife thing because an old chola girlfriend stabbed a guy who hit on her once. As Tom Jones would croon "She's a lady, ohohoh she's a lady."

**marv335**

This book seems less "How to get laid" and more "How to get on the sex offenders register"

**Frazzled**

Am I the only sick of the kickstarter nonsense?

**Polonius**

Pick up artist techniques are kind of like diet supplements. You know, the kind that say things like "take two a day, along with diet and exercise." Shockingly, people lose weight on them.

Talking to girls, while making it clear that you're looking to get a piece, will result in getting laid, pretty much no matter how you go about it. Virtually every guy that has trouble meeting women/dating/getting laid/etc. is simply not talking to enough women in social situations.

**azazel the cat**

Ah, yes. Books written by PUAs (Pick Up Artists, for those unfamiliar). I remain convinced that PUAs demonstrate a previously-unrecognized form of hyper-extroverted autism.

**Sigvatr**

Lint wrote:

Nah just buy em a couple drinks. Everybody knows it's a proven fact that all women are 3 drinks away from a lesbian experience.

A couple of drinks and a camera!

**Polonius**

azazel the cat wrote:
Ah, yes. Books written by PUAs (Pick Up Artists, for those unfamiliar). I remain convinced that PUAs demonstrate a previously-unrecognized form of hyper-extroverted autism.

I think it has more to do with the goal. In theory, a guy wants to meet a woman who he can have a relationship with, based on matching personalities and shared values and goals. A lot of guys dont' really see the women they want to hook up with as people, but as targets. I'd not go so far as to call it complete mysogeny, but rather focused mysogeny. These are guys that just want to "bang chicks." That's a fine and noble goal, but only some of us get the ability to do that with charm and confidence. They want to game the system.

the point isn't how they try to break the game, but that they only see it as a game at all.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with casual sex. But when I have it, I still want it to be because the girl thinks I'm awesome (or awesome enough), not because I figured out some sort of hack.

**daedalus**

Frazzled wrote:
daedalus wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:

Not that walking around doing this doesn't make you an Alpha Class douchebag.

Hey, I just tell the stories.

The bizarre thing is that he just walked up to me and my girlfriend at the time, said that, and then walked away. Neither of us had any clue who he was.

It was pretty surreal.

Would he say that to the married ones? I mean its not like if you said that to the wife while I was there I wouldn't stab you twenty seven times or anything...

No clue. For whatever it's worth, she thought it was hilarious. On the other hand, she turned out to be dangerously unstable...