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 d-usa wrote:
I was hoping that it would be manslaughter, but not guilty it will be.

I would not be surprised if there will be protests, but this bloodlust for riots in this thread is pretty sad.

Well, I am sure civil trials will be next.


Bloodlust for it? Come on man, your stretching pretty damn hard on that one. At the worst, it's acknowledging the multitude of social media postings calling for riots in this event.

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 Wyrmalla wrote:
"The jury believe that he was in fact aggressively attacked"

The jury of course being made up entirely of sheep and other assorted farm animals...


Maybe,you know, they just considered the facts of the case and made the best decision they could.

Unless you know something they don't.

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I've already seen the reactions coming in over facebook. It seems that my peers are still very much in the, "Trayvon was just an innocent kid" that we saw at the beginning of the trial...

Justice as our society calls it was done, nothing we can do about it.

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 Monster Rain wrote:
 Wyrmalla wrote:
"The jury believe that he was in fact aggressively attacked"

The jury of course being made up entirely of sheep and other assorted farm animals...


Maybe,you know, they just considered the facts of the case and made the best decision they could.

Unless you know something they don't.


Wait that makes sense, we can't be making sensible decisions.

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 djones520 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
I was hoping that it would be manslaughter, but not guilty it will be.

I would not be surprised if there will be protests, but this bloodlust for riots in this thread is pretty sad.

Well, I am sure civil trials will be next.


Bloodlust for it? Come on man, your stretching pretty damn hard on that one. At the worst, it's acknowledging the multitude of social media postings calling for riots in this event.


Like the "lets carpool down there" twitter posting here that said nothing about riots?
   
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 d-usa wrote:
I was hoping that it would be manslaughter, but not guilty it will be.

I would not be surprised if there will be protests, but this bloodlust for riots in this thread is pretty sad.

Well, I am sure civil trials will be next.



I believe that Not Guilty by means of self defense--removes all civil culpability (so no civil suit). Not sure though.

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 AgeOfEgos wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
I was hoping that it would be manslaughter, but not guilty it will be.

I would not be surprised if there will be protests, but this bloodlust for riots in this thread is pretty sad.

Well, I am sure civil trials will be next.



I believe that Not Guilty by means of self defense--removes all civil culpability (so no civil suit). Not sure though.


Was he actually found guilty by means of self defense? I thought that he would have bad to file some special motions and stuff, and that this wasn't the course the lawyers took?
   
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The possibility of riots is a very real fear for many. As someone that's seen them happen first hand in Cincinnati, the mob mentality that initiates a race riot is frightening. The media is as much to blame for this due to their wildy irresponsible coverage of this case.

MSNBC has Al Sharpton as one of their primary commentators for gods sake.

 
   
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 d-usa wrote:
 AgeOfEgos wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
I was hoping that it would be manslaughter, but not guilty it will be.

I would not be surprised if there will be protests, but this bloodlust for riots in this thread is pretty sad.

Well, I am sure civil trials will be next.



I believe that Not Guilty by means of self defense--removes all civil culpability (so no civil suit). Not sure though.


Was he actually found guilty by means of self defense? I thought that he would have bad to file some special motions and stuff, and that this wasn't the course the lawyers took?



His plea did claim self-defense, as far as I know.

   
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Now we shall see if Zimmerman get nailed for violating civil rights the way the LA cops were after they were acquitted.

Why would he?

"Violating civil rights" is something that, effectively, only an agency or other government entity can do to you.
So unless his "neighborhood watch" was funded with tax dollars and actually part of the local police department and not an initiative that he and the other neighbors came up with very little oversight/collaboration with local law enforcement, there is very little room for a "violation of civil rights".
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Relapse wrote:
Now we shall see if Zimmerman get nailed for violating civil rights the way the LA cops were after they were acquitted.

Why would he?

"Violating civil rights" is something that, effectively, only an agency or other government entity can do to you.
So unless his "neighborhood watch" was funded with tax dollars and actually part of the local police department and not an initiative that he and the other neighbors came up with very little oversight/collaboration with local law enforcement, there is very little room for a "violation of civil rights".


It depends on how involved the police were with the watch I imagine.
   
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Those 6 women have renewed some of my lost faith in humanity.

Not guilty was the right call.

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Can see some peeps here are ruled by their emotions

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Good call jury, good call.

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 SickSix wrote:
Those 6 women have renewed some of my lost faith in humanity.

Not guilty was the right call.


Yep, with all the evidence in, there was no way there should have been any other verdict. I am still surprised, though that he was found totaly innocent and I somehow think that he hasn't seen the last of a courtroom. The mob wants him and will try to get him one way or the other.
   
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 Jihadin wrote:
Can see some peeps here are ruled by their emotions


Should see my facebook page right now. I oh so badly want to jump in on it but I'm just steering clear of it.

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After that disastrous execution of their case, I don't blame the jury. That would be silly. If anyone should really be blamed its the prosecution for turning a toss up into a clear land side.

   
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I am staying clear of Facebook. I disagree with many in this thread, by its still more civil than that place.

   
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So this basically means that it is legal to kill anyone in Florida as long as there are not witnesses. You can corner an unarmed person with a gun, shoot them, and claim it was self defence. And there is no way for prosecutor for prove beyond shadow of a doubt that it wasn't.

I cannot know what what happened that night, but what is clear that Florida's laws on self defence are absolutely insane.

   
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 djones520 wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
Can see some peeps here are ruled by their emotions


Should see my facebook page right now. I oh so badly want to jump in on it but I'm just steering clear of it.


I went in with guns blazing on any post mentioning the verdict.

Basically, anyone posting emotionally about this one way or the other is an object of my derision.

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 Crimson wrote:
So this basically means that it is legal to kill anyone in Florida as long as there are not witnesses. You can corner an unarmed person with a gun, shoot them, and claim it was self defence. And there is no way for prosecutor for prove beyond shadow of a doubt that it wasn't.

I cannot know what what happened that night, but what is clear that Florida's laws on self defence are absolutely insane.


So... you don't know what happened that night, but your still passing judgement?

I don't think it's Florida's laws that are in the wrong here...

In America you are innocent until proven guilty. Proof of guilt was not in anyway shape or form presented, and so Zimmerman has not been found guilty.

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Not guilty was the right call.

Even if you think he did it or not, the Evidence really wasn't there IMO for a Manslaughter conviction, and especially not a murder 2 conviction.

There is just way to much reasonable doubt. I as an American want to be absolutely sure of the Evidence before I vote to lock a man away.



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 djones520 wrote:


So... you don't know what happened that night, but your still passing judgement?

I don't think it's Florida's laws that are in the wrong here...


Judgement the laws yes, not necessarily on Zimmerman. Consider the implications for a moment.

   
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In America you are innocent until proven guilty. Proof of guilt was not in anyway shape or form presented, and so Zimmerman has not been found guilty.


I blame the lack of paying attention in school to people who forgets this.

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 Crimson wrote:
 djones520 wrote:


So... you don't know what happened that night, but your still passing judgement?

I don't think it's Florida's laws that are in the wrong here...


Judgement the laws yes, not necessarily on Zimmerman. Consider the implications for a moment.


I took a moment and everything I was thinking stayed the same.

Zimmy = Not guilty the right call

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I thought we locked up people who we feel very stongly are guilty.

That's what happened with OJ and Casey Anthony, right?

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 Monster Rain wrote:
I thought we locked up people who we feel very stongly are guilty.

That's what happened with OJ and Casey Anthony, right?


however with those cases the Zimmerman jury got the verdict right.

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