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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/06/27/truthiness-the-bureau-xcom-declassified/

Its obviously been heavily redesigned from its previous incarnation, at the very least it has become a thrid person game, and while the combat looks a little stilted it at least looks interesting.

Does look alright I suppose. Would have just preferred another RTS like the first though. Will maybe rent it and give it a fair shake.

Somehow it reminds me of LA Noir in terms of its combat.

Not necessarily a bad thing mind you.

Looks very cool to me.

I'll play it cos its X-com, Im not sold on it though.

It seems to me that it would be really difficult to get right. Almost like it looked really easy, how you could give all your blokes orders and time stops while you do it, put gak loads of mines and turrets and stuff down, and then just use your own guy to kick some ass.

I'm intrigued, but it doesn't look my cup of tea, I'd be impressed to feth it they pulled it off and made it as maddeningly addictive as the last few turned based ones.

At least it's not the gak is has been at the beginning.
It does, however, look like way too much pause - resume - pause for a FPS.

 DA's Forever wrote:
Does look alright I suppose. Would have just preferred another RTS like the first though. Will maybe rent it and give it a fair shake.

The Miraxis XCOM is a reasonable 'reimagining' and there is a very faithful remake called Xenonauts currently in beta. There isn't really any need for another straight remake.

When this was first made public it looked dreadful, a cynical cash in that had little if anything to do with the XCOM games. At least now it looks like it may be quite fun.

The command menu doesn't look very smooth but on the other hand the player character didn't actually do anything so I suspect that in the finished game the menu shouldn't really get in the way. My main concern is that the combat will be too much like Mass Effect.

If combat's like Mass Effect, the game might actually be good.

If customization is like Mass Effect, the game might even be great.

I liked the original concept that looked nothing like Xcom, but now it's too much like Xcom and I already have Xcom. I don't really see the need to have a real time version of a game I already have

I like the style. It's like a combination of the setting of L.A. Noire and X-Com: Apocalypse.

I think it helps this game's case dramatically now that we have an "actual" XCOM game out. Now that its done, it'll be a lot easier to get people to accept the idea of doing something new in the XCOM universe.

The original version looked like crap, but this one looks a lot better. I look forward to seeing how it shapes up.

The one thing that bugs me is the setting. I don't see any reason for the 1950s setting at all. And given all the futuristic stuff for the gear, why make this choice?

 curran12 wrote:
The one thing that bugs me is the setting. I don't see any reason for the 1950s setting at all. And given all the futuristic stuff for the gear, why make this choice?

Its meant to show the origins of X-COM. UFO:enemy unknown (the first X-COM game) was set in the late 90's.

X-COM Apocalypse had a futuristic 50's visual style as well.

 curran12 wrote:
The one thing that bugs me is the setting. I don't see any reason for the 1950s setting at all. And given all the futuristic stuff for the gear, why make this choice?

I like it, and it makes sense.

Think of when Roswell happened. I guarantee you that will tie in at some point, even if it's just a cursory mention.

Plus we get a ton of cool cars, clothes and weapons. It'll make for an interesting setting with lots of character (possible cold war tie ins as well) and that goes a long way for making a game cool.

Plus it opens the way for sequels in the time between this game and XCOM: EU.

It makes sense because it has a similar style to X-Com: Apocalypse.

I prefer the old fps look and style.

Currently there's waaay too much pause play pause going on. Like dragon age too much.

It looks like a combination of Mass Effect and Brothers in Arms, which is cool by me.

It kind of looks like it plays like Valkyria Chronicles, which would be great! Now of Sega would only make another VC on Ps3/4...

 Melissia wrote:
If customization is like Mass Effect, the game might even be great.

What kind of customization are you talking about?

My first thought when I opened the link was "Why is that guy wearing a Pip-Boy?". I do see either an M14, or M1 Automatic

 Manchu wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
If customization is like Mass Effect, the game might even be great.

What kind of customization are you talking about?

Maybe the weapon and armour mods and levels?

Also the customization that was in its character creation.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Maybe the weapon and armour mods and levels?

For me, this added very little to the ME experience. If a game does something like this, I think it should be more substantive. The trouble is, it can quickly become fiddly.

 Melissia wrote:
Also character customization.

Like? Do you mean, something like in Enemy Unknown?

It'll probably be like Enemy Unknown. I don't think they'll have full facial customization and whatnot.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I don't think they'll have full facial customization and whatnot.

Depending on the what you mean by whatnot, that won't bother me unless everyone looks exactly alike. Facial customization in contemporary gaming has a very low yield compared to the time you put into it. When it first came out it was cool because it was novel; but no one has done anything interesting where it matters in-game. So I've lost enthusiasm for it as just another facebook-like doodad feature. Might as well have a chargen option for picking your character's favorite color. Oh wait, that's item modding.

Ya, it was facinating at first but now I barely touch facial customization.

Plus this is XCom. There's no point spending 10 minutes or whatever customizing a dude when he may just get killed in the first minute of his first firefight.

 Melissia wrote:
Also the customization that was in its character creation.

Ah! I stuck with my two Shepards from ME and didn't deviate from them so I occasionally forget that there is customisation

 Manchu wrote:
For me, this added very little to the ME experience. If a game does something like this, I think it should be more substantive. The trouble is, it can quickly become fiddly

Parts of it were useful, but I'd rather not have to micro-manage every part of my team's equipment.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I'd rather not have to micro-manage every part of my team's equipment.

How did you feel about Enemy Unknown?

Isn't this game in the 1950s America? Everyone in 1950 looked the same anyway. Everyone was a white guy in a three piece suit back then. Plus this guys are pseudo MiBs. They're whole schtick was looking the same...

What I meant was, if there is exactly one female and one male design -- such that every agent and civilian looked exactly the same. That would be silly. But since there seems to be little to know face-to-face interaction (a la Elder Scrolls), it's not the biggest issue in the world as long as there is a variety of clothing styles and color palettes.

 Manchu wrote:
How did you feel about Enemy Unknown?

I'll be able to answer that when I get to play it My family arrive on Monday for the wedding, we have the reception the following week and need to finish getting the food in for that, we're trying to get hold of the singer because of a conflict in scheduling, the house still needs a massive clean, the yard isn't finished yet, the pool is almost clean, the kitchen is half painted, we just got the 55 gallon fresh water fish tank completely cleaned and re-stocked, the salt water tank is almost in need of a clean, I spent this morning going for a drug test for a new job, and neither my wife nor I have had time to bless ourselves, so free time is an elusive beast at the minute The only reason I'm on Dakka is because I've got a temp job a desk worker which has a lot of down time.

I will be honest though, I have more tolerance for micromanaging equipment in strategy games than I do for most other types.