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 Shandara wrote:
Well, they may believe this Interweb thing is a passing fad, so keeping it limited ensures they won't be left with unsellable digital codexes!


And if it doesn't sell well, they might have to destroy the product to ensure no one knows it didn't sell well. Therefore, GW will, logically, destroy the internet.

Or better yet, they'll make their own Citadel FineWeb. It's not like it could be any worse than Internet Explorer.





More seriously, I'm rather dismayed that they publicly stated they're going to increase support for non-Apple digital products, with slightly lower prices no less, and then a Farsight expansion, which is a damned sight more interesting, and probably has a lot more potential sales volume than Iyanden is apple-only.

Hey, uhm, GeeDubs, I like most of your models, I like your game, but I'll sooner prance around town naked on a purple pony screaming "I am the chosen one!" to everyone in sight than buy an iPad for your supplements.

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I'd be more interested in reading the fluff than using the rules, but I dont think I will drop the money on it. Am I the only one that thinks you should get a code to download the i-pad version for free when you buy the hard copy? I feel robbed paying £30 for the book, I would spend it on an app.
   
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If they gave a copy of the download along with the hardcover lots of folk would then sell the book (brand new) second hand

so although it would be cool, it's not going to happen

(it doesn't even happen for much cheaper ordinary fiction)


 
   
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Yeah, and lots of people could buy the book, scan it, make their own .pdf, and then sell it on second hand, no? So if that's what they're afraid of then they might as well stop selling books entirely.

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Well they could do, but then they'd be criminals (even if they don't see themselves that way)

If they gave away a digital copy with the physical copy no crime would be committed and at least some are deterred by not wanting to break the law

 
   
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Updated the OP with the picture... Weird that this gets so little hype and weird that it's to be released on the same date as Apoc - makes me fear a non physical copy is the route they are taking.

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Yeah, you bad criminals lol!

On a serious note is there an actual law to stop you scanning something you own? I would quite frankly be surprised if there was, I'm sure its only if you 'share' it online, so if you keep it for personal use, where's the harm?
   
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Obviously the answer could vary significantly depending on the country but at least in the US I believe it's ok for you to copy it for your own personal use but not to disseminate it.

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 Sidstyler wrote:
Yeah, and lots of people could buy the book, scan it, make their own .pdf, and then sell it on second hand, no? So if that's what they're afraid of then they might as well stop selling books entirely.
Yeah, that's illegal and takes a lot of effort so it's really not the same.

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overtyrant wrote:
Yeah, you bad criminals lol!

On a serious note is there an actual law to stop you scanning something you own? I would quite frankly be surprised if there was, I'm sure its only if you 'share' it online, so if you keep it for personal use, where's the harm?


In the US I think it's ok under their 'fair use' doctrine (but I think it would have to be you making a copy of your book, not for example grabbing a download from a torrent site just because you own the physical copy)

In the UK it's not allowed (even if most people think it is)

 
   
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Considering Iyanden started as iPad only and then a physical book came later, its reasonable to assume this will be the same.

I don't expect any new models (maybe some conversion bits if we're lucky), but if there's some slight mods to wargear and some different warlord traits and that sort of thing, I'm gonna support that. And yes, of course it costs too fething much =P

I'll repeat what I said earlier... I'm excited about the possibility / promise of being able to field a Farsight Enclave force that doesn't necessarily have to include Farsight himself. The thing where its the special character that changes your list always bugged me.

It's the same with Marines, with all those special characters being required for alternate chapters to even have access to their own rules. It's nonsense.

So many games, so little time.

So many models, even less time.

Screw it, Netflix and chill. 
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well they could do, but then they'd be criminals (even if they don't see themselves that way)

If they gave away a digital copy with the physical copy no crime would be committed and at least some are deterred by not wanting to break the law

Um you might wanna recheck your laws, reselling the book is fine, scanning it is also fine unless you then try to sell the scan.
Once you buy it it's your property and you're free to do whatever with it, we all saw what trying to do things otherwise got Microsoft – hate and rage.


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 Micky wrote:
Considering Iyanden started as iPad only and then a physical book came later, its reasonable to assume this will be the same.

I don't expect any new models (maybe some conversion bits if we're lucky), but if there's some slight mods to wargear and some different warlord traits and that sort of thing, I'm gonna support that. And yes, of course it costs too fething much =P

I'll repeat what I said earlier... I'm excited about the possibility / promise of being able to field a Farsight Enclave force that doesn't necessarily have to include Farsight himself. The thing where its the special character that changes your list always bugged me.

It's the same with Marines, with all those special characters being required for alternate chapters to even have access to their own rules. It's nonsense.


Man I agree. I like the Farsight Enclave, but I do not like fielding Farsight. I hope there are options that make it distinctive without fielding him.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Please please PLEASE be on android, I may only have a phone but I want it.


Hah!
   
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 Micky wrote:
Considering Iyanden started as iPad only and then a physical book came later, its reasonable to assume this will be the same.

Iyanden iPad and book version were announced the same time and release dates only a week apart.
No Farsight book in sight. So it is not the same. I suspect, the Farsight thing is much much thinner, maybe the price will tell.

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 HoverBoy wrote:
Once you buy it it's your property and you're free to do whatever with it


Not in America, ironically.

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Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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 Sidstyler wrote:
 HoverBoy wrote:
Once you buy it it's your property and you're free to do whatever with it


Not in America, ironically.

For the love of god people, what the hell are you letting your government do over there!


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 HoverBoy wrote:
 Sidstyler wrote:
 HoverBoy wrote:
Once you buy it it's your property and you're free to do whatever with it


Not in America, ironically.

For the love of god people, what the hell are you letting your government do over there!

What's even worse, is that we're letting their government do it over here too, somewhat.

In Australia you are legally allowed to format shift a physical book you own into a digital copy. If you no longer have the physical copy, you must delete the digital copy. You have to do the scanning yourself - using a version scanned from a different copy of the same book doesn't count and is still illegal. Good luck proving it though, so you should be sweet.

I'd be all for some reasonably priced digital copies.
   
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So, I just combed through 6 pages of debate about the merits (or lack thereof) of supplemental codecies, can someone point me to where the actual rumors about the contents of this book (/pdf thing) are? Any rules rumors whatsoever? Any fluffy rumors at all? No?

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Missouri

No, that image on the previous page is literally all we have right now.

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 Sidstyler wrote:
No, that image on the previous page is literally all we have right now.


While it isn't much more, the July White Dwarf did have this text (also in the first post):

Commander O'Shovah is a maverick, a greatly admired military leader who has broken ranks with the Tau Empire and carved out a highly militarised region on the edge of Tau space, known as the Farsight Enclave.

This expansion for Codex: Tau Empire, available for iPad, explores the breakaway Farsight Enclave in greater detail than ever. It contains new background, a timeline of events, rules for using your Tau Empire collection and a glorious gallery of Citadel miniatures painted in the colours of the Farsight Enclave by the 'Eavy Metal team and the Design Studio army painters. This is the perfect compaion for your Tau Empire codex on the iPad.


But besides that we have neither any rumours, nor any actual information.


The only other thing is a rumour from before the Tau codex was released that O'Shovah would make Crisis as troops in the new codex, and since it didn't happen some people are wondering if the rumour monger mixed up the supplement with the real codex. But it's speculation at best to assume that it's included in this supplement (though I bet it would make it sell!).

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Missouri

Oh yeah, definitely...though kind of an odd marketing move considering that it looks like there won't be any insanely overpriced $50 hardcover book to push this time around?

 Desubot wrote:
Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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Yeah, assuming there were a couple dozen pages of actual fluff I might actually pay $50 for a hardcover of this one... Iyanden? Not so much.

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I'd probably buy it if it came out in hardcover. I'm more in this game for the painting and fluff than anything else. Theres also a sense of "completeness" if you will from having all the rulebooks of a race, and I would rather have a hard copy than a digital one at the moment. I have serious issues with GW (I think I am not alone in that), but I can understand that it's a business model, not a personal vendetta (though my wallet tells me otherwise). I would be surprised if they didn't come out with a hardcover codex suppliment to order, since it sounds like the Iyanden one sold so well. Maybe it just isn't enough fluff to make an entire book? If so, that doesn't bode well for any other future suppliments in my opinion.

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ajsnips44 wrote:
Please God....please let crisis be troop choices


So many times this!

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Riptides as troops.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Riptides as troops.

Not quite yet, but this is the inevitable future that will bring the galaxy under Tau rule.
A Riptide for every Fire Warrior.

Get with the program GW. Android is way ahead of Apple by virtue of the simple fact that it's not NEARLY as proprietary.
Android compatibility will cover a lot more bases, accessibility-wise, than Apple compatibility.
I would buy this if it were on Android. I highly doubt I'm the only one.
Nobody is going to drop the Benjamins for an iPad just so they can have your new book. (Especially when they have superior tablets which cost less.)

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