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If I was to take say a Malanthrope brood of 3, as a HQ choice in my Tyranid army. How would this unit interact with warlord traits, and slay the warlord?

Would my opponent be required to remove all 3 models, before gaining any victory points?

   
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Chicago, IL

A cursory glance at the rules tells me that you have to pick a model to be your warlord, and this model:

1) Must have he highest LD skill

2) While also being an HQ choice.

3) in the event of a tie you pick a single model to be your warlord.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
A cursory glance at the rules tells me that you have to pick a model to be your warlord, and this model:

1) Must have he highest LD skill

2) While also being an HQ choice.

3) in the event of a tie you pick a single model to be your warlord.


But this is a single unit of 3 models. Would you still have to pick an individual model within the unit?

   
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The Bold text on Page 111, at the top of the page, tells us that you nominate one model to be the warlord, so it seems the rules tell you to pick one model to be the warlord.


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Yess, you'll need to nominate one of them.
   
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I would say resolve it as you would for the IG CCS, you use the model with the highest leadership, or if they are tied (like Malanthropes) pick one to be your warlord.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
A cursory glance at the rules tells me that you have to pick a model to be your warlord, and this model:

1) Must have he highest LD skill

2) While also being an HQ choice.

3) in the event of a tie you pick a single model to be your warlord.

It also has to be a character...

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
A cursory glance at the rules tells me that you have to pick a model to be your warlord, and this model:

1) Must have he highest LD skill

2) While also being an HQ choice.

3) in the event of a tie you pick a single model to be your warlord.

It also has to be a character...


And since the Malanthropes don't have the MC(CH) unit type (I believe?), would that then mean, that you would be without a warlord?

   
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I believe malanthropes count as a specific kind of zoanthrope, in which case they are not characters. That said, In the event that your army does not include a character of some sort you'll be unable to select a warlord and benefit from the warlord table. (such as it is)

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No, not having a Warlord makes the army an illegal list, similar to having only a single troop.

And Malanthropes are nothing like Zoanthropes aside from they both float.

RAW you need another HQ. HIWPI one of the Malanthropes is the warlord.

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 insaniak wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
A cursory glance at the rules tells me that you have to pick a model to be your warlord, and this model:

1) Must have he highest LD skill

2) While also being an HQ choice.

3) in the event of a tie you pick a single model to be your warlord.

It also has to be a character...

Yes, and also has to be a character, how I forgot that one I will never know. TY for the addition.

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rigeld2 wrote:
No, not having a Warlord makes the army an illegal list, similar to having only a single troop.

And Malanthropes are nothing like Zoanthropes aside from they both float.

RAW you need another HQ. HIWPI one of the Malanthropes is the warlord.


I do agree with this as there is no Character model as the actual warlord.

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(Hopefully) soon, IA4, second edition will come out and this will be addressed.

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 Happyjew wrote:
(Hopefully) soon, IA4, second edition will come out and this will be addressed.


If tyranids get a codex in January 2014 I would expect IA4 2nd Ed in march.

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Interestingly enough Iyanden Eldar can have non-character warlord.

   
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 Crimson wrote:
Interestingly enough Iyanden Eldar can have non-character warlord.


Not familiar with Iyanden supplement, however, DA can take Sammael on a Landspeeder (which is not a character).

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 Happyjew wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
Interestingly enough Iyanden Eldar can have non-character warlord.


Not familiar with Iyanden supplement, however, DA can take Sammael on a Landspeeder (which is not a character).

And can't be a warlord.

The Iyanden supplement "breaks" the rules, which of course is fine.

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rigeld2 wrote:
 Happyjew wrote:
Not familiar with Iyanden supplement, however, DA can take Sammael on a Landspeeder (which is not a character).

And can't be a warlord.

RAW, no. Although the fact that his Warlord ability includes a specific mention of how it works if he is in his speeder, it seems that GW think that he can be.

 
   
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Sure - I wouldn't have a problem playing it that way really, but trying to use him as an example doesn't support anything.

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I guess this is more just a case of the dated rules from Forge World, which I have been told by them they are working on a product wide FAQ, but they wouldn't give a date, although I personally think they'll just update the IA books alongside the new codex's as said above.

   
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Where in the rulebook says it has to be a character? All I saw it had to be a HQ choice that leads your army. I have seen several non character warlords, though admittedly not often.

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Drakka77 wrote:
Where in the rulebook says it has to be a character? All I saw it had to be a HQ choice that leads your army. I have seen several non character warlords, though admittedly not often.


On page 111 of the Rulebook, under the heading 'The Warlord', the second sentence in the black bold writing says it there.

   
 
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