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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 02:15:40
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Jihadin wrote:I'm glad that a gruesome death of a human being amused you. I'm sure that it was a great consolation to his family that their loved one could bring joy to others at the last moments of his life.
Crimson you entirely missed the point. Or you refuse to believe that Sharia Law is much "nicer" compare to the USA death sentence. As for us laughing. That's one less possible insurgent to deal with. I threw in the incident from Afghanistan to see how you reply. He was a convicted thief under Sharia Law. His family probably disowned him off the bat after the conviction.  Since there were no females at the execution then he was not wealthy enough to buy a wife.
Again, the Chapman protocols have a very real chance of being as brutal to the condemned as a multiple-hacks beheading. The difference is the lethal injection is sanitized for the purpose of not upsetting the audience, whereas the beheading lets the gruesomeness be on full display.
I would hesitate to call either "nice".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/30 02:03:10
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands.
The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him
Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 02:51:14
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jihadin wrote:Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands.
The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him
Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning? 
Do you think they have executioner trading cards over there with stats on the back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 02:55:13
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Expansion Pack for Warhammer Fantasy Card Gamed.......or....a new line of 40K Space Marine Executioners....by name with appropriate stats...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 03:22:26
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Jihadin wrote:Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands.
The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him
Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning? 
Nitrogen-induced hypoxia.
Suffocation doesn't hurt because you can't get air; it hurts because you can't expel the carbon dioxide. So if the condemned breathes nitrogen, which is in the air already, everything will seem normal to the condemned; there should be no pain at all. The condemned will breathe properly, but no oxygen will get to the brain, so they will feel euphoric and lightheaded, before passing out, and finally, brain death.
Zero pain. Zero suffering. Compliance from the condemned is not needed, and as they approach the end, they will lose the ability to comprehend it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 04:01:17
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jihadin wrote:Expansion Pack for Warhammer Fantasy Card Gamed.......or....a new line of 40K Space Marine Executioners....by name with appropriate stats...
They already have that one started with the Blood Angel Azrael.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 04:09:26
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Citizen Azazel. You will no longer be required to pick up any cans. The rest of you civilians.....pick up the cans!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 19:04:30
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jihadin wrote:Citizen Azazel. You will no longer be required to pick up any cans. The rest of you civilians.....pick up the cans!
Azaazel, you get to hold this axe and motivate "shirkers and malingerers".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 05:30:41
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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azazel the cat wrote:Jihadin wrote:Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands. The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning? 
Nitrogen-induced hypoxia. Suffocation doesn't hurt because you can't get air; it hurts because you can't expel the carbon dioxide. So if the condemned breathes nitrogen, which is in the air already, everything will seem normal to the condemned; there should be no pain at all. The condemned will breathe properly, but no oxygen will get to the brain, so they will feel euphoric and lightheaded, before passing out, and finally, brain death. Zero pain. Zero suffering. Compliance from the condemned is not needed, and as they approach the end, they will lose the ability to comprehend it.
Yup... dunno why this isn't used? Isn't that also laughing gas? What about Helium? Automatically Appended Next Post: Jihadin wrote:I'm glad that a gruesome death of a human being amused you. I'm sure that it was a great consolation to his family that their loved one could bring joy to others at the last moments of his life. Crimson you entirely missed the point. Or you refuse to believe that Sharia Law is much "nicer" compare to the USA death sentence. As for us laughing. That's one less possible insurgent to deal with. I threw in the incident from Afghanistan to see how you reply. He was a convicted thief under Sharia Law. His family probably disowned him off the bat after the conviction.  Since there were no females at the execution then he was not wealthy enough to buy a wife.
Jihadin... Crimson is just jealous he ain't in the states
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0017/03/27 05:52:28
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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All good Whembly. I'm just trying to get him to grasp that the USA is not the top dog in extreme execution. The perfect example be the hardline Middle East countries that embrace Sharia Law. Who are we to interfere in their judicial system
Saudi Arabia not long ago executed how many drivers for "Sliding" in their vehicles?
Indonesia caning the US teenager for vandalism cars
Taliban Husband executing his wife for Adultry because she was raped
China executing drug runners and dealers. Well..wait one...
Shooting; Lethal injection. China carries out far more executions than all of the rest of the world combined, and is notable as the only country in the world that regularly executes thousands of people every year.[94] On 25 February 2011 China's newly revised Criminal Law reduced the number of crimes punishable by death by 13,from 68 to 55.[95] Among these are embezzlement; rape of children; fraud; bombing; people trafficking; piracy; rape; corruption; arson; murder; poaching; endangerment of national security; terrorism[96] (see Capital punishment in the People's Republic of China)
Do not screw around in China
Thailand will execute by hanging or firing squad hardcore communist. Do not screw around with their monarchy. Don't shoot at the King Tigers. I've a couple 1st cousins in the unit
Afghanistan also allow husbands to force their wives to be prostitutes
Wait....some people still view the USA as the most evilest with our death sentence
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 05:56:30
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jihadin wrote:All good Whembly. I'm just trying to get him to grasp that the USA is not the top dog in extreme execution. The perfect example be the hardline Middle East countries that embrace Sharia Law. Who are we to interfere in their judicial system
Saudi Arabia not long ago executed how many drivers for "Sliding" in their vehicles?
Indonesia caning the US teenager for vandalism cars
Taliban Husband executing his wife for Adultry because she was raped
China executing drug runners and dealers. Well..wait one...
Shooting; Lethal injection. China carries out far more executions than all of the rest of the world combined, and is notable as the only country in the world that regularly executes thousands of people every year.[94] On 25 February 2011 China's newly revised Criminal Law reduced the number of crimes punishable by death by 13,from 68 to 55.[95] Among these are embezzlement; rape of children; fraud; bombing; people trafficking; piracy; rape; corruption; arson; murder; poaching; endangerment of national security; terrorism[96] (see Capital punishment in the People's Republic of China)
Do not screw around in China
Thailand will execute by hanging or firing squad hardcore communist. Do not screw around with their monarchy. Don't shoot at the King Tigers. I've a couple 1st cousins in the unit
Afghanistan also allow husbands to force their wives to be prostitutes
Wait....some people still view the USA as the most evilest with our death sentence
I remember that kid getting caned and Clinton intervenening for him. The caning should have been followed by his father marching up there and getting the same treatment for trying to defend his son vandalising all those cars. The kid was an arrogant punk who got less caning than he deserved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 05:59:34
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Crimson you entirely missed the point. Or you refuse to believe that Sharia Law is much "nicer" compare to the USA death sentence. As for us laughing. That's one less possible insurgent to deal with. I threw in the incident from Afghanistan to see how you reply. He was a convicted thief under Sharia Law. His family probably disowned him off the bat after the conviction. Since there were no females at the execution then he was not wealthy enough to buy a wife.
Mod gave me warning over a part of this. Trying to get him/her to clarify what part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 05:59:58
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The good old "it doesn't matter that we do bad things as long as somebody does it worse" speech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 06:01:08
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yet we're still talking death sentence and I threw in Sharia Law execution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 06:06:42
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Jihadin wrote:
Wait....some people still view the USA as the most evilest with our death sentence
I certainly have not claimed such thing. There are obviously many countries that are in many ways much worse than USA. This does not mean that evil gak USA does should be tolerated or accepted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 06:07:20
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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d-usa wrote:The good old "it doesn't matter that we do bad things as long as somebody does it worse" speech.
Hey... instead of executing folks, why don't we make them clean up the blighted areas of detroit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 06:09:43
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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whembly wrote: d-usa wrote:The good old "it doesn't matter that we do bad things as long as somebody does it worse" speech.
Hey... instead of executing folks, why don't we make them clean up the blighted areas of detroit?
That is a death sentence, isn't it? At the very least cruel and unusual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 06:18:59
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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whembly wrote: azazel the cat wrote:Jihadin wrote:Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands.
The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him
Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning? 
Nitrogen-induced hypoxia.
Suffocation doesn't hurt because you can't get air; it hurts because you can't expel the carbon dioxide. So if the condemned breathes nitrogen, which is in the air already, everything will seem normal to the condemned; there should be no pain at all. The condemned will breathe properly, but no oxygen will get to the brain, so they will feel euphoric and lightheaded, before passing out, and finally, brain death.
Zero pain. Zero suffering. Compliance from the condemned is not needed, and as they approach the end, they will lose the ability to comprehend it.
Yup... dunno why this isn't used?
Isn't that also laughing gas?
What about Helium?
I think it would work with helium or a few other inert gasses. However, the price of Helium is going up, whereas Nitrogen is cheaper than dirt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 06:24:13
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Fixture of Dakka
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azazel the cat wrote:whembly wrote: azazel the cat wrote:Jihadin wrote:Which we don't quite understand the beheading for the thief. They usually lose their left hand. This "convict" still had both hands.
The executioner though was quite madder then Heck due to the botch execution because he commence to kicking the crap out the four peeps that was helping him
Az I'm with you "on there has be a better way to execute someone" involving no physical pain. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning? 
Nitrogen-induced hypoxia.
Suffocation doesn't hurt because you can't get air; it hurts because you can't expel the carbon dioxide. So if the condemned breathes nitrogen, which is in the air already, everything will seem normal to the condemned; there should be no pain at all. The condemned will breathe properly, but no oxygen will get to the brain, so they will feel euphoric and lightheaded, before passing out, and finally, brain death.
Zero pain. Zero suffering. Compliance from the condemned is not needed, and as they approach the end, they will lose the ability to comprehend it.
Yup... dunno why this isn't used?
Isn't that also laughing gas?
What about Helium?
I think it would work with helium or a few other inert gasses. However, the price of Helium is going up, whereas Nitrogen is cheaper than dirt.
Helium could bring an element of comedy into the last words of the condemned. Just some black humor there for what is really a tragic situation.
I said earlier that I knew a man that helped set up firing squads at the state prison. The rifles would be secured at an angle to put a bullet into a seat man's heart. He also worked a tower in max and was given orders if any hang gliders from a nearbye area got too close, he was to shoot to kill.
They don't screw around with the possibility of escape from death row at this prison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 08:23:07
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This does not mean that evil gak USA does should be tolerated or accepted.
You wonder why your pissing people off eh? Perception your putting out is USA Bashing. I'm going to back off from you Crimson for I strongly suspect your the one that found a post offensive to you and reported me since you couldn't really respond to it
Stay Frosty Crimson because I sure as Hell am
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The good old "it doesn't matter that we do bad things as long as somebody does it worse" speech.
Dang skippy D-USA. We have it good in the USA
We pay gas by the gallon instead of the liter
We do not ration healthcare (Canada) nor ration Dental Care ( UK)
We provide some of the best entertainment that we can watch without censorship.
We have Freedom of the Internet.
We do not treat our women/GF/wives as property
We start driving at an early age.....not bringing up the Autobahn
If accuse of stealing and if there's enough people pressure saying you did well your losing your left hand
We have Freedom of religion. You do not see on a constant basis people of different religion getting executed or kill
We do not have starving children on the street
We are allowed to play 40K while some countries will probably kill you because in the game the Emperor is viewed as a God.
We have laws that allow a female to work, vote and be equal to males
We have laws that prevent child labor laws
We have laws preventing execution of your wife for adultery when she got raped
We have no bread line
We have no milk line
We have electricity 24/7
We have clean water
Opportunity for education, education, and education
I could go on. Even though I took a few joke shots at Canada and UK we have it made. North America and Western Europe are best off. Eastern Europe kind of spooky for lack of words. Russian Federation is getting it together and I say about 5-6 years they're actually going to be back as a Super Power Nation along with China. China also has not interfere with Hong Kong and its a freaking money maker for them. South Korea has a major space issue along with Taiwan. Thailand is trying to become a manufacturer power house. India actually trying to come out from like 3rd-2nd tier status of a country and on par with us. Pakistan has major issue with the western border with Afghanistan...tribal region....heavily influence of the Taliban Afghanistan going down the tubes in 2014 when we pull out. Afghanistan knows it all to well.....they boasted the tariff of shipping US equipment via flatbed truck heading out of country to Karachi for shipment back to the states or points of interested parties to get certain types of vehicles. Iran going to become the de facto major player in the ME. Iraq either going to keep it together or go up in a revolution. Syria, hate to say it, Assad going to be the winner. Word in the military grape vine is another major arms deal the Russians did. Israel probably going to be the only stable country with soon to be increase of combat proven vehicles of the US. Palestinians are getting crunched more since the PLO is....wait which of the two is more focus in Syria? Hezballah or PLO...regardless they're losing political power for getting involve in Syria. Egypt military is keeping it together and I for one hate to see that country go up in smoke. They're military is like on par with Israel professionalism wise. Greece has been quiet.....whats happening in Greece? Last I heard was the major crack down on illegal immigrants and someone asking Germany for reparation from WWII as a formality? Looking at Greece as no longer the linch pin keeping the EU together. Is Germany keeping it together? As in strong economic and finance? I went all this time and not mention Australia but my perception is they're pretty much self contain almost. Africa though is starting to come into the cross hairs with US businesses but they need serious efforts to compete with Russia and China already having a foot print there. Gawddammit Mandela you have another good 230 years left in you. One major event in m life to see on television. A black South African President. Obama in no way shape or form can compare to Mandela
US of A issues this will not have an order of precedence due to this coming off the top of my head
-Keystone Pipeline (Jobs and the cascade effect of providing more jobs to build the pipeline)
-IRS Scandal (Trust Issue)
-Sexual Harassment in the US Military (we have to settle down a bit after Obama made a comment that favored Defense)
-Government Forlough (screwed that word up) Norfolk VA with its...14-16 military bases there are going to get hammered hard
-D-USA you mention Children suffering from Malnutrition in the US. Did a Prominent Senator picking up that flag and running with it?
-EPA new guidelines. I think they need to slow the Hell down and give current coal plants and mines a chance to implement the current recommendation instead of adding a new on top of it.
-2nd Amendment. This is going to be a romper room fight. Actually would like people in congress who knows about weapons to find way or fund a way to enforce the old and current laws in the book first before knee jerking more laws unto us....waste of tax payer money
-Immigration. This is a dang MONSTER. Secure the border first. Bite the damn bullet and provide citizenship but not to those who are charged with felony crimes....or 12 DUI's...clean rap sheet no problem...no free healthcare as of yet either....just throwing it out there
-Stop wasting time coming up with ways to get around gay marriages. DOMA been struck down Suck it up and drive on. We have a bunch of new couples who can be taxed more on combine income.
-Those who want a military drawdown its not going to happen. We're removing the extra Brigade per division but leaving a battalion in their place. Think logistics. US Military has 10 active division and 2 marine divisions. Enough units to do a two front combat theater. You need the logistical capabilities and carriers to provide air support. In 12 hours upon being alerted. A Brigade from the 82nd is capturing a airfield (whole division use to jump but due to budget cuts only combat units and some combat support units are still on Jump Status. Rest of the 82nd has to be flown in. Or if a target is near the shore a Marine MEU can do it
-Snowden......I no longer care....unless he provides hard evidence about the aliens.....
-Zimmerman I no longer care. Jurors found him not guilty. Now the perception is the will of the people due to emotions is going to find a way to break this Nation of Laws.
-Death Penalty. All we can do is discuss it till every state removes it. Good money say Texas will be the last state.
-ACA/Obamacare this is going to break us or damn near break us. I do believe a lot of people are going to give the bird to the government and not pay the fine
-Waivers for ACA/ObamaCare. Needs to be really really confirmed if the individual deserves it. Not like UCIS waivers pretty much everything. so no money incoming to the Government
Pick up the Can Civilian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 08:29:16
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Pointing out evil crap the USA does is USA bashing?
Screw the USA if people think it is above criticism. I know I am pretty tired of people wrapping themselves in the flag and pretending that nothing we do is wrong or that it is okay because other people do things that are worse or that other things can't work here because we are 'merica and only do things our way.
If you can't criticize things and fight to make them better then there is really no point in having pride in your country.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 14:41:31
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Jihadin wrote:
You wonder why your pissing people off eh? Perception your putting out is USA Bashing.
So you cannot criticise anything USA does? I'm equally opposed of death penalty and random military strikes that end up killing bunch of civilians regardless of which country committed them. However, because USA is supposed to be a modern western democracy I somehow expect better from it than from some middle-eastern dictatorship.
I'm going to back off from you Crimson for I strongly suspect your the one that found a post offensive to you and reported me since you couldn't really respond to it
Stay Frosty Crimson because I sure as Hell am 
I didn't report you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 16:26:09
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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d-usa wrote:Pointing out evil crap the USA does is USA bashing?
Screw the USA if people think it is above criticism. I know I am pretty tired of people wrapping themselves in the flag and pretending that nothing we do is wrong or that it is okay because other people do things that are worse or that other things can't work here because we are 'merica and only do things our way.
If you can't criticize things and fight to make them better then there is really no point in having pride in your country.
Lemme refer you to Mr. Tosh:
Carry on dude.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 23:04:40
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Jihadin wrote:
Dang skippy D-USA. We have it good in the USA
We pay gas by the gallon instead of the liter Milk, too. I don't understand why you feel the old Imperial unit of measurement makes a difference.
We do not ration healthcare (Canada) nor ration Dental Care (UK)Canada doesn't either. Also, the USA's system is closer to rationing than ours is.
We provide some of the best entertainment that we can watch without censorship. Subjective. And also, you censor your entertainment more than many Western countries
We have Freedom of the Internet. This isn't unique to the USA
We do not treat our women/GF/wives as property Some people do, and while the mysogyny in American culture isn't overt, it is present.
We start driving at an early age.....not bringing up the Autobahn This also isn't unique to the USA.
If accuse of stealing and if there's enough people pressure saying you did well your losing your left hand I don't think this happens in the US, but the US has its own serious problems in its judicial system
We have Freedom of religion. You do not see on a constant basis people of different religion getting executed or kill Killed? no. Persecuted? Yeah, kinda.
We do not have starving children on the street Yes you do.
We are allowed to play 40K while some countries will probably kill you because in the game the Emperor is viewed as a God. Which countries?
We have laws that allow a female to work, vote and be equal to males Except for that glass ceiling, yeah. Also, all those laws that try to prevent her form having control of her own body.
We have laws that prevent child labor laws Not unique to the US
We have laws preventing execution of your wife for adultery when she got raped Again, not unique to the US
We have no bread line Not unique to the US
We have no milk line Not unique to the US
We have electricity 24/7 Tell that to California and New York
We have clean water Not by comparison to Canada. And Certainly not anywhere near a coal plant, oil refinery or any natural gas frakking
Opportunity for education, education, and education Not a very good opportunity, but technically it's there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 00:49:07
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Az...in red next time...you have to make red for it look like an arterial bleed
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Light blue just does not look right
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 03:31:59
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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azazel the cat wrote:And punish the family of the condemned as well by having their (probably) loved one exploded publicly? That's grim, and I hope pure hyperbole. Those who do want the death penalty should only wish for hypoxia as its method, simply because it could almost be considered less of a punishment and more of a euthanasia on one of society's blights (we're assuming the condemned is omnisciently the guilty culprit in the use of that characterization, by the way).
'Death by explosion', when I already pointed out I wasn't in favour of the death penalty... just might have been a bit of hyperbole, yeah.
But the point remains - you want to kill people who have done terrible acts then fine. That's a simple, straight forward thing. Just don't dress it up with pretend money saving claims or pretend fears of people escaping maximum security to kill again, and don't pretend its a clean and humane practice because you've figured out a way to kill them without drawing blood.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 03:34:30
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Remember the North Korean "one shot one execution of a General" mortar shot?
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
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RIP Muhammad Ali.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 03:40:30
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Jihadin wrote:Dang skippy D-USA. We have it good in the USA
We pay gas by the gallon instead of the liter
We do not ration healthcare (Canada) nor ration Dental Care ( UK)
We provide some of the best entertainment that we can watch without censorship.
We have Freedom of the Internet.
We do not treat our women/GF/wives as property
We start driving at an early age.....not bringing up the Autobahn
If accuse of stealing and if there's enough people pressure saying you did well your losing your left hand
We have Freedom of religion. You do not see on a constant basis people of different religion getting executed or kill
We do not have starving children on the street
We are allowed to play 40K while some countries will probably kill you because in the game the Emperor is viewed as a God.
We have laws that allow a female to work, vote and be equal to males
We have laws that prevent child labor laws
We have laws preventing execution of your wife for adultery when she got raped
We have no bread line
We have no milk line
We have electricity 24/7
We have clean water
Opportunity for education, education, and education
Your list there is basically a list of things that are true in every developed country in the world, countries that just about every other poster on this forum live in. Which means you're basically saying 'America is awesome because it's basically the same as the countries the rest of you live in'.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 03:59:32
Subject: Re:Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I could go on. Even though I took a few joke shots at Canada and UK we have it made. North America and Western Europe are best off
Actually miss the second part?....actually I should have switch the part 1 rant with part 2 rant....or something like that.....even mention Australia at the end of part 2....didn't mention how the spiders in Australia are...
Step out the box and granted I used the US as an example since I am an American in response to another American you can pretty much apply it to where your from...I'm not going to use the word civilize countries but I shall use the term of "Well Develop" country. No one posting here is willing to give up where they currently live and move to the Middle East are they. Unless under the protection of the US military. Which be no longer in some places after 2014....maybe like real early 2014....like Jan 2014....
Everyone so intent debunking what I posted but not thinking to what I'm referring.
edit for fun with Az
Dang skippy D-USA. We have it good in the USA
We pay gas by the gallon instead of the liter Milk, too. I don't understand why you feel the old Imperial unit of measurement makes a difference.
That drives me crazy at times. I've vehicles I own so I need to own two sets of tools...standard and metric. I've a lot of money invested in my tools
We do not ration healthcare (Canada) nor ration Dental Care ( UK)Canada doesn't either. Also, the USA's system is closer to rationing than ours is.
Wife and I are actually thinking dropping the government healthcare insurance and go with Tricare. More inline with my VA medical coverage. Something ACA hasn't taking into consideration yet or we have not seen or informed..
We provide some of the best entertainment that we can watch without censorship. Subjective. And also, you censor your entertainment more than many Western countries
Reminds me. Some of the best TV series and movies granted are American made and funded but most time filmed outside the US...Supernatural in Canada as an example
We have Freedom of the Internet. This isn't unique to the USA
UK seems to be having a problem...or one step closer
We do not treat our women/GF/wives as property Some people do, and while the mysogyny in American culture isn't overt, it is present.
Was trying to draw attention mainly to the Middle East culture
We start driving at an early age.....not bringing up the Autobahn This also isn't unique to the USA.
Depends. How many vehicles have you brought, traded and or owned over time? Lets see...Ford Terino, Mazda RX7, Geostorm, Ford Escort, 83 5.0 convertible Mustang, Mistibishi Might Max truck, Ford Explorer, Acura Integra, [color=blue]Mistibishi Eclipse Spyder, Ford Maverick, Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Yeti edition Wrangler, Mazda Miata[/color] Ones in blue I have on hand. Looking at a truck now...debating..
If accuse of stealing and if there's enough people pressure saying you did well your losing your left hand I don't think this happens in the US, but the US has its own serious problems in its judicial system
Was drawing out Sharia Law and how...strict and narrow it is on justice and punishment
We have Freedom of religion. You do not see on a constant basis people of different religion getting executed or kill Killed? no. Persecuted? Yeah, kinda.
We have churches, Mosque and temples in plain sight with signs showing what religion they are. Some countries its an open invitation for prosecution and termination dang near.
We do not have starving children on the street Yes you do.
Mention earlier about this. We might have hungry children but no starving bloated belly close to death children lying in the streets of the US. I have seen them dead and with bloated bellies. It sucks because there is not a damn thing we can do till a humanitarian mission is establish. I probably have to clarify about this later on
We are allowed to play 40K while some countries will probably kill you because in the game the Emperor is viewed as a God. Which countries?
Iraq, Afghanistan two off the bat. Not allowed to play in visual areas to avoid incidents.
We have laws that allow a female to work, vote and be equal to males Except for that glass ceiling, yeah. Also, all those laws that try to prevent her form having control of her own body.
My advice is to get more votes to oust those who are preventing this. They're elected officials so someone can do a recal on them I really wish those who weigh in on thses matters know what they're hell they're talking about
We have laws that prevent child labor laws Not unique to the US
True. A lot of modern industrial countries have those laws...but damn there been a few times I wanted to put some kids to work to give them a taste of work. Washing dishes like taboo to them.
We have laws preventing execution of your wife for adultery when she got raped Again, not unique to the US
Drawing attention to those countries that do
We have no bread line Not unique to the US
Threw that in there. I do believe Putin got a handle on that situation
We have no milk line Not unique to the US
Threw that in there. I do believe Putin got a handle on that situation
We have electricity 24/7 Tell that to California and New York
Wait...they're having rolling black outs? Didn't know that. Throwing this out to now. The internet structure going suppose to be doing that to. No internet connection at most an hour We have clean water Not by comparison to Canada. And Certainly not anywhere near a coal plant, oil refinery or any natural gas frakking
Opportunity for education, education, and education Not a very good opportunity, but technically it's there.
[color=darkred]I agree. We just need to raise the bar and pull a damn near heroic intervention to get kids back on track on educations. Agains I was pointing out the ME, Most of South America, India, Pakistan....well the less develop countries.[/color]
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/05 00:26:36
Subject: Attorneys pitch mercy for condemned Ohio man
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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