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List 1- 1850
HQ-160
Chaplain 160
Bike
Mace of Redemption

TROOPS-720
Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino


Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino

Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino

Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino

Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino

Tactical squad 120
Missle launcher
Rhino

Fast Attack-378
Ravenwing Black Knights(9) 378
x3 launchers

Heavy-540
Devistator squad 180
x3 flakk missle
rhino

Devistator squad 180
x3 flakk missle
rhino

Devistator squad 180
x3 flakk missle
rhino

Aegis Defence line 50

Bunker up and shoot shiz with missiles, Bikes zoom around and kill gak when needed, when playing tau I would just full on charge them to keep them from destroying me. I could edit it to add the dakka banner(but why with 15 missle launchers) and maybe some pfgs.

or

LIST 2-1850
Hq-570

Librarian 120
PFG
Terminator armor

Azreal 215

Command squad-235
BoD
x2 combi-melta
Apothocary
Drop Pod

tactical squad 205
melta gun
combi-melta
drop pod locater beacon

tactical squad 195
melta gun
combi-melta
drop pod

tactical squad 195
melta gun
combi-melta
drop pod

tactical squad 195
melta gun
combi-melta
drop pod

Terminators 490
x2 assault cannon
x2 chainfist

In your face with tons of bolters yea why not!
Termi squad Deepstrikes with librarian to give them all a 4++ combat squad pop 2 tanks or whatever is nasty(if no tanks no combat squad) while 30 marines drops down and shoot meltas at whatever they need to, turn 2 using azreals command trait to control reserves the rest come down giving me a grand total of 164 bolter shots a round. Hopefully divination would help me against air if It comes down to it other then that im SOL.



List 3-1850

HQ-510
Azreal 215

Libby 95
PFG


Command squad
BoD-200

TROOPS-1340
Tatical squad-230
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop Pod-Locater beacon

Tatical squad-230
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop Pod-Locater beacon

Tatical squad-220
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop Pod

Tatical squad-220
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop pod

Tatical squad-220
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop pod

Tatical squad-220
Combi Melta
melta gun
missle launcher w/flakk
Drop pod

same tactitcs as list 2, but more bolter shots with some AA capabilities.



Was maybe thinking of a razorspam list with DA using PFGS to my advantage any thoughts on that?

all C&C welcome

It sounds like it could work, very shooty.

Put the three dreads and the 5 man teams with the HBs Behind the aegis and rush the razorbacks using the flyers for cover?

The lascannons on the razor backs look like your only anti-armour, what's your strategy?

Master Azalle wrote:
It sounds like it could work, very shooty.

Put the three dreads and the 5 man teams with the HBs Behind the aegis and rush the razorbacks using the flyers for cover?

The lascannons on the razor backs look like your only anti-armour, what's your strategy?

Split the teams, keep the heavy bolters behind the aegis use razorbacks to pop heavier tanks and dreads to pop smaller tanks
keep the two darktalons close to the banner and watch them tear apart whatever isnt in a tank.
after all air is killed i should rule the sky(bewteen an aegis and a jetfighter i should do that)

libby can either ride with the cmd squad or sit back at the aegis. i had a list with a termie command squad but i couldnt fit everything i wanted in it due to them being almost 400 points.
Also i coudl change that heavy flamer RB back to a las cannon but id have to change the jetfighter back to a darktalon.

After looking over a again and playing a lot ogf games recently, gun line DA seem to really struggle vs Hell Turkey death...I know I do. The Dark Talon's IME never were ale to bring them down.

All marines suck against hell turkeys, except terminators. Hell turkeys essentially negate the value of nearly all marine lists.

Three planes and a QG should have some effect, but I suspect they will be too late.

Mysticdog wrote:
All marines suck against hell turkeys, except terminators. Hell turkeys essentially negate the value of nearly all marine lists.

Three planes and a QG should have some effect, but I suspect they will be too late.

That's why with my foot slog list I plan on adding PFGS to negate the insta kill

Updated list(OP) to fit what im actually thinking of running

1) He has metal bawkses, which will protect him initiially.

2) The answer to Helldrakes (if you're determined not to run LRC spam) is just more Marines. Even triple-drake can only kill 15 or so marines a turn.

3) Flakk Missiles.

I still prefer LRC spam out of our codex, but this list isn't terribly vulnerable to Helldrake spam. I'd be more worried about what else is in the CSM list.

Lastly, the RWBKs are illegal. You can have ONE RWGL for every 3 knights.

 The Shrike wrote:
1) He has metal bawkses, which will protect him initiially.

2) The answer to Helldrakes (if you're determined not to run LRC spam) is just more Marines. Even triple-drake can only kill 15 or so marines a turn.

3) Flakk Missiles.

I still prefer LRC spam out of our codex, but this list isn't terribly vulnerable to Helldrake spam. I'd be more worried about what else is in the CSM list.

Lastly, the RWBKs are illegal. You can have ONE RWGL for every 3 knights.

there is 9 of them.

Added 3 list but 4 ideas would like C&C on all of them. Thanks!

Just found a small typo devistator -> devastator.

On your last list, I would pay for an apothecary in the command squad since your guy with the banner will most likely be targeted with snipers and such by the enemy.