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Also, I should note that most models in the game have krak grenades, and most vehicles have AV10 rear armor.

On the flip side, those vehicles that are fast also tend to be only AV12 at the very most. Taking down a wave serpent isn't any more difficult than taking down a monstrous creature. If anything, it's easier, as the flier only gets a 5+ save.

No really, there is a point of "too many tanks" that all players must take into account.

Once you can't place them the table any more.

Then you construct more table using the tanks...
There's no such thing as too many tanks...

 Ailaros wrote:


Umm... Nope. Still not too many tanks.

I'd play that.

Bring me my pie plates..........

Personally I find that one fish tank is too many for a game of 40k - it's not like they can be taken from any Codex.

...oh, THOSE tanks. Right. Everything in balance - where you give tanks with one hand, you take away from infantry, monsters, characters, et al. While it's unlikely a TAC list will be able to take all your tanks down, it's also unlikely (unless you're Guard) that your tanks will be able to take everything your opponent has down either... and they'll be the one with uncontested Troops sitting on objectives at the end.

...unless you're playing purely for kill points. Then GAME ON, treadheads.

Too many... Tanks? This smells like warpcraft...

HERESY! There is no such thing as 'too many tanks'.

(Unless your obsession with tanks is preventing you from getting more superheavy tanks.)


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 Ailaros wrote:

I believe this is what we call "almost enough tanks". For a small game.

 Peregrine wrote:


I believe this is what we call "almost enough tanks". For a small game.

There is still ample room for the opponent to deploy on the left, and that line through the middle.

 Super Ready wrote:
Personally I find that one fish tank is too many for a game of 40k - it's not like they can be taken from any Codex.

...oh, THOSE tanks. Right. Everything in balance - where you give tanks with one hand, you take away from infantry, monsters, characters, et al. While it's unlikely a TAC list will be able to take all your tanks down, it's also unlikely (unless you're Guard) that your tanks will be able to take everything your opponent has down either... and they'll be the one with bits of their Troops lying a pile of rubble and blood.

...unless you're playing purely for kill points. Then GAME ON, treadheads.

Fixed that for you.

Stop it you, I'm trying my hardest to be sensible and you're NOT making it easy.

...oh, what the hell. Leman Russ squadrons for everybody!

When I'm playing against them, one tank is too many.

When I'm just in hobby mode or a spectator of a game:

MOAR, MOAR TANKS! I WANT MOAR!! There's never enough tanks!

 Yonan wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:


I believe this is what we call "almost enough tanks". For a small game.

There is still ample room for the opponent to deploy on the left, and that line through the middle.

Thats why he said "almost"

 Super Ready wrote:
Stop it you, I'm trying my hardest to be sensible and you're NOT making it easy.

...oh, what the hell. Leman Russ squadrons for everybody!

Leman Russ? What kind of pansy ass tank is that?
I'm talking
CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!!

i was wondering how long before it would show up

Hey, I'm tired all right...

As the thread post count slowly rises, the chances of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT being mentioned slowly reaches 1 where it being mentioned is inevitable.

This thread is making me want to go buy as many Leman Russes as my wallet can take and form a giant parking lot of tanks. Play an Apoc game like that, I can bring that but you can bring whatever you want. I love those kind of games. I did one where my opponent got 3 bigger Titans and I got a ton of Conscript Guardsmen with the occasional special or heavy weapon. I survived 9 turns.

ThePrimordial wrote:
This is mostly a question as to common cortesy, at what point would a person have enough light tanks that you wouldn't play against them?

Light tanks? What do you consider light? AV12 or less? AV10 or less? As long as they follow their FoC I don't really care. Light vehicles can be dealt with much more easily in 6th edition, thanks to the addition of hull points, so what is to be upset about. For me if you are dealing with heavies there isn't much difference in facing a force with 4 land raiders as opposed to 2 if I have no weapons that can consistently hurt them. Though at least hull points allow me to glance a land raider to death with krak missiles.

Generally hull points have made overly mechanized forces a bit less of a threat if you can bring a solid weight of fire to bear upon them.

Skriker

Never enough tanks for me. IMHO adding more tanks only adds to the fun of the game. Not only does it look cool, but there's much more tactics in it because of side and rear armour. Infantry doesn't give a **** for you standing behind them... suddenly outflanking and deepstriking makes sense again!

You reach a point when there is to many tanks when their combined firepower is OVER 9000!!!!!!!

Play an armored battle group in a no points game, fill ALL the slots of a double FOC with vehicles and vehicle squadrons if possible and try to add in one more tank.

That is your answer.

Or play apocalypse where the answer is the same as to how much dakka is enough.

 Kain wrote:
Play an armored battle group in a no points game, fill ALL the slots of a double FOC with vehicles and vehicle squadrons if possible.

That is your answer.

Play apoc. cover 100% of your deployment zone in armor.

that is your answer.

 Kain wrote:
Play an armored battle group in a no points game, fill ALL the slots of a double FOC with vehicles and vehicle squadrons if possible and try to add in one more tank.

You forgot the allied DKoK Armored Battlegroup (with double FOC of course) to add even more tanks.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Kain wrote:
Play an armored battle group in a no points game, fill ALL the slots of a double FOC with vehicles and vehicle squadrons if possible and try to add in one more tank.

You forgot the allied DKoK Armored Battlegroup (with double FOC of course) to add even more tanks.

Ah but of course, don't stop until you literally have so many tanks that you can wipe out a horde of terminators with just the pintle mounted heavy stubbers. No, scratch that, STORM BOLTERS.

Apoc game - take a deployment zone's worth of Baal Predators. Scout them forward. Turn one, go flat-out and just start Tank Shocking everything backwards. After a couple of turns of this your opponent runs out of board space. /game

 Super Ready wrote:
Apoc game - take a deployment zone's worth of Baal Predators. Scout them forward. Turn one, go flat-out and just start Tank Shocking everything backwards. After a couple of turns of this your opponent runs out of board space. /game

Now that's a move that would either evoke gut busting laughter or blood curdling rage depending on the victim.

When I play full Russ ABG I always wish I had some infantry.

 Kain wrote:

 Super Ready wrote:
Apoc game - take a deployment zone's worth of Baal Predators. Scout them forward. Turn one, go flat-out and just start Tank Shocking everything backwards. After a couple of turns of this your opponent runs out of board space. /game

Now that's a move that would either evoke gut busting laughter or blood curdling rage depending on the victim.

While you wouldn't get the scout move, I'd rather see that with vindicators w/ siege shields. Just a wall of giant dozer blades pushing everything before it.

UnadoptedPuppy wrote:
When I play full Russ ABG I always wish I had some infantry.

Thou art a pansy.

ThePrimordial wrote:
This is mostly a question as to common cortesy, at what point would a person have enough light tanks that you wouldn't play against them?

Patton's ghost looks down on you judgingly for asking such a question....

When it would take you over your point limit. A legal army is a legal army!