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Best_pone, who has also accurately predicted various other releases like High Elf and Eldar, has this to say about the next supplement:

Best_Pone wrote:So, I've heard from a little birdy that Black Legion will be getting the next supplement. No idea if that will be August or not though, seeing as August is a WFB month.

Source: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?376444-Black-Legion-are-Coming!

Edit: And it has been spotted in the digital releases section of the August White Dwarf:

Listed as in:
Definitive Background for the Black Legion
Detailed Timeline of major historical battles and events
Additional rules (to lead your forces in a Black Crusade)
Miniatures Gallery
Reference for special rules and Wargear

Black Legion?

The Chaos Space Marine force that is least in need of a special supplement?

OK!

Thanks for the link. Also amusing that the tracker is linked.

Well at least it's something but black legion is surely one of the legions you can represent quite well without a supplement, I just hope it doesn't take forever to get a hard copy like the farsight one.

ooooO As a black legion player I agree that there is probably little to gain but fluff from this codex release but I am however very excited!

Since the Black Legion is pretty much the ONLY legion that still operates in some form or shape in the 41st Millennium as writing by the "history-rundowns" of GW studio-publications go, it is arguably the only Legion that would make sense for a supplement, especially for an "historical-missions-type"-supplement similar to Iyanden.

All other legions are either entirely disbanded (World Eaters), better known for their ex-members who are at odds with the actual (remnants of the original) Legion, than the Legion itself (Thousand Sons) or "represented" as a Legion in 40K with minuscule groupings from Black Library/Forge World publications that barely have enough members for a 5-man tac squad (Night Lords).

A Black Legion supplement, arguably, could re-create a Black Crusade or some similar event of Abaddon's more recent 40K history in a series of consecutive missions much like Iyanden did the pre-Tyranid, fight-the-Tyranids, post-Tyranids story-arc for Iyanden.

Still would've vastly preferred Red Corsairs... oh well.

 pretre wrote:
Thanks for the link. Also amusing that the tracker is linked.

Well, it's a good thread.

A Black Legion supplement, thats, thats something......

It's kinda like if Codex Space Marines gets a Ultramarines Supplement, but that being said....... If this allows us to field an Abaddonwing list, then all is forgiven

Strange choice. In my opinion, Black Legion having a supplement is like Ultramarines having a supplement. IE, seems pointless, since both are supposed to be the standard by which the variants vary from.

EDIT: Ack, I got ninja'd.

EDIT 2: Well, I suppose that while Codex: Space Marines is basically Codex: Ultramarines, the same can't necessarily be said to be true for Codex: Chaos Space Marines if only due to the fact that only Word Bearers use Dark Apostles (although I imagine Word Bearers would be happy to install Dark Apostles amongst the Black Legion. Spread the word, you know? They seem to be on relatively good terms with each other... for chaos worshipers, at least)

I'm trying to think of what units or FoC changes could really make a Black Legion supplement work. Aside from taking every cult troop as Troops instead of Elites (which Abaddon already does) and taking a Terminator command squad, I'm coming up dry. Interesting to see though. I'm selfishly hoping for an Iron Warriors one, but I'm not holding my breath.

The best thing this supplement can do is make the rest of the CSM army work without leaning on tripple helldrake to be competitive.

I wonder if this has anything to do with ADBs Abaddon trilogy of books that are in the pipeline.

Perhaps the rules, missions and lore will be abbreviated/summarized versions of the lore ADB will write about in his Black Legion novels.

Would rather see supplements for any of the 4 Legions that are wholly dedicated to one Chaos god, personally, but I'm sure they're on the way.

Black legion feels too generic and all encompassing for a supplement. Codex chaos space marines can easily work as a black legion book.

It would make way more sense to do a legion that worships a specific god of chaos, or even a faction like the red corsairs where they operate on a totally different level and thus could have their own special rules.

Using black legion feels like a cash-in to me.

Maybe rules for Araghast and Eliphas?

I'm hoping it does something crazy like allow us to take Cult Termies, maybe give us some kind of new deamons or something, but unlikley

While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

Please be true.

As a BL player myself, I agree it seems like the strangest choice of all the legions, but the CSM dex is so boring that I hope this does something serious to shake it up and make the book more viable competitively and interesting / fun to play.

 Vaktathi wrote:
While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

This.

What the hell, GW?

 Brother SRM wrote:
Aside from taking every cult troop as Troops instead of Elites (which Abaddon already does)...

No he doesn't. He makes Chosen Troops.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Since the Black Legion is pretty much the ONLY legion that still operates in some form or shape in the 41st Millennium as writing by the "history-rundowns" of GW studio-publications go, it is arguably the only Legion that would make sense for a supplement, especially for an "historical-missions-type"-supplement similar to Iyanden.

All other legions are either entirely disbanded (World Eaters), better known for their ex-members who are at odds with the actual (remnants of the original) Legion, than the Legion itself (Thousand Sons) or "represented" as a Legion in 40K with minuscule groupings from Black Library/Forge World publications that barely have enough members for a 5-man tac squad (Night Lords).

A Black Legion supplement, arguably, could re-create a Black Crusade or some similar event of Abaddon's more recent 40K history in a series of consecutive missions much like Iyanden did the pre-Tyranid, fight-the-Tyranids, post-Tyranids story-arc for Iyanden.

Still would've vastly preferred Red Corsairs... oh well.

Not one to argue but what about my Word Bearers?

 Vaktathi wrote:
While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

ever think that they might actually change it so black legion isn't so vanilla?

If the eldar supplement is anything to go by though, these aren't about rules. Its about fluff, scenarios, and a bunch of mediocre 'eavy metal paint jobs, at an eye gouging price.

Just like putting a dust jacket on a codex and selling it for $40 more, these supplements aren't meant to make the studio do a lot of work.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:


Not one to argue but what about my Word Bearers?

Gone (save for those serving Huron Blackheart, whose command ship is a former Word Bearer Legion flagship "gifted" to him).

Lexicanum wrote:
Pre-heresy, the [Word Bearer] Legion was roughly 100,000 strong. It was split into Chapters of 1000 Marines each, made up of 10 Companies of a hundred Marines. They each with their own iconography. Four of these chapters are known, bearing these logos:

A quill with a drop of blood at the nib
An open hand with an eye in the palm
A burning book
A sceptre crowned with a skull

Each of these chapters represented a different aspect of the Word of Lorgar.

Also, if Forge World is part of your canon, a fair number of Word Bearers went and became Khorne Berzerkers, serving the World Eaters (before their eventual demise).

dereksatkinson wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

ever think that they might actually change it so black legion isn't so vanilla?

That is the question, Black legion IS the vanilla Chaos Marines. At least so I thought. Now if GW would do something nice with this supplement. Special Black legion spells/characters, not just abadon. More access to daemons, special wargear. Better Warlord Traits..

dereksatkinson wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

ever think that they might actually change it so black legion isn't so vanilla?

The question in that case is, how? And to what? We already have a legion for each of the gods (which covers psychics, close combat, durability, and speed), a legion for mechanized warfare and siege, a legion for stealth/terror, and a legion that primarily uses cultists. If anything, the Black Legion being vanilla was what differentiated it from all the other legions (and the reason why Codex: CSM should theoretically cover everything the Black Legion needs or has). Well, besides the Word Bearers, who are also rather vanilla.

Really, if they wanted a "Vanilla, but different" legion, they should have gone with the Red Corsairs, who are known to use things that other legions probably wouldn't (like Xenos, a sadly horrifically downplayed aspect of the fluff. Humans aren't the only things that can turn to chaos. Red Corsairs are more open to, or at least easily retconned into being more open to, normal humans in the ranks as opposed to just expendable cultists too, considering that Huron's playable army in the IA books could be played entirely without any marines in it if you wanted to if I recall correctly). Codex: CSM is practically Codex: Black Legion, already (a Word Bearers codex would implement more daemons into the mix, but that's kinda unnecessary with the allies system. I think Word Bearers stay away from single-god cult marines, too, unlike Black Legion, so with the exception of Dark Apostles, Codex: CSM as a whole fits Black Legion much more).

dereksatkinson wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
While I'm ok with CSM supplements, Black Legion seems rather...pointless, the basic codex *IS* the Black Legion list.

ever think that they might actually change it so black legion isn't so vanilla?

Wasn't that the point of the Black Legion, to be that generic "catch all" CSM force? And don't we have a CSM Legion already covering pretty much everything else? That sort of defeats the purpose they've been crafted for.

UltraPrime wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
Aside from taking every cult troop as Troops instead of Elites (which Abaddon already does)...

No he doesn't. He makes Chosen Troops.

I thought since he had every mark he could take all cults as Troops? I haven't read up on him too much since I don't run him.

Black Legion?

I hope they make an Ultramarines book as well.

That Wordbearer fluff is news to me. I thought they were one of the more unified legions. Pretty disappointing if that's official.

Word Bearers would have been the perfect supplement codex. Daemons, CSM, Lost and the Damned. Such variety.

This certainly has me curious, if not a little puzzled.

I was really hoping for a Word Bearer Supplement...


I guess we're going to get some new Chaos Artifacts, and I could see that taking the Supplement would allow you to take all cult units as troops.

Who knows though, I'm curious to see where this is going.

Goddamn GW, haven't you taken enough of my money?!

God only knows why they've decided to make this, it'll be interesting to see if the rules will differ greatly from the regular codex.
Maybe it'll unlock Cult units as troops?

It'll be weird though as Abaddon is in the main Codex, I'm not familiar with the Iyanden supplement, but can you mix and match?