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Hi there! I'm planning on buying a pair of crypteks, 2 battleforces and an annihilation barge + overlord... and built this 1500 points list:
Update: Now I have two possible lists!

List 1:

HQ:
Nemesor Zahndrekh: (185pts)

Royal Court: (195pts)
Despairtek + Veil
Lancetek 1 + Solar Pulse
Lancetek 2 + grenades for his unit
Lancetek 3
-Lanceteks will embark one of the Ghost Arks.

Elite:
Deathmarks x5: (95pts)
- Despairtek goes here

Troops:
Warriors x15 : (310pts)
+Ghost Ark (Warriors walking)

Warriors x7 : (206pts)
+Ghost Ark

Immortals x10: (170pts)
Tesla Carbines
-Overlord goes here.

Fast Attack: (150pts)
2x Canoptek Scarabs x5

Heavy Support:
Annihilation Barge: (90pts)
Tesla Cannon/Gauss Cannon (I'll magnetize it, just in case)

Annihilation Barge: (90pts)
Tesla Cannon/Gauss Cannon (Same as before)



List 2:

HQ:
Necron Overlord: (240pts)
-3++ save, Semp. Weave, Warscythe, CCB

Royal Court: (195pts)
Despairtek + Veil
Lancetek 1 + Solar Pulse
Lancetek 2 + grenades for his unit
Lancetek 3
-Lanceteks will embark one of the Ghost Arks.

Elite:
Deathmarks x5: (95pts)
- Despairtek goes here

Troops:
Warriors x15 : (310pts)
+Ghost Ark (Warriors walking)

Warriors x10 : (245pts)
+Ghost Ark

Immortals x10: (170pts)
Tesla Carbines

Fast Attack: (150pts)
2x Canoptek Scarabs x5

Heavy Support:
Annihilation Barge: (90pts)
Tesla Cannon/Gauss Cannon (I'll magnetize it, just in case)


At a glance, the first list seems better, but the second one seems fun too!

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I also have orks, so I could take an ally detachment to complement the army.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!

EDIT: List updated!
EDIT 2: Another update!

First, welcome to the Crons :thumbs up:

Your list looks pretty solid, couple of things to think about/check.

A) iirc, the battle force only comes with 5 deathmarks/immortals. However, you can build both deathmarks and immortals if you use warrior legs and chests( the chests need a little trimming to fit)
B) I'm not near my codex, but I thought a GA could only fit 10. I assume you are walking your warriors? That's fine.
C). Combine your scarab bases into one unit for better survivability.

For future games , think about using Zandrekh as his buffs are useful, plus he comes standard with an orb and most of the good stuff (but not MSS unfortunately)

Hth

Oh wow, yeah, Ghost Arks can only hold 10 warriors, my bad. I updated the first post with a revised list. Hope you like it!

With your revised list, you can't have 10 plus the cryptek in the ark. Maybe think about changing around a bit and do:
15 warriors walking, 2 lanceteks in ghost ark, 5 warriors in ghost ark.

With your immortals, I would suggest making them both Tesla as that works better from longer range.


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Ps, you can make your own crypteks with warrior bodies, deathmarks heads and whatever staff like bits and pieces. More is better!

I made 1 squad of immortals with gauss and the other with tesla because, with the battleforces, I can make 10 of each I would have to buy 2 more boxes of immortals/deathmarks to do that.

About the crypteks and warriors - Woops, another mistake, damn.
I like your idea, having 15 warriors on foot, being replenished by both ghost arks, then 5 more in one and the lanceteks in the other one... Damn I love this battleforce, plenty of options!

Thanks man : D I'll be playing mainly vs tyranids, marines/chaos marines/GK and Imperial Guard. I hope these guys do well, they are really different from what I mainly use, orks! Really excited.

EDIT: What do you think about dropping scarabs to 5 bases and adding a third lancetek?

One small thing, there are only 5 immortals in each battle force.

If you are playing hordes, then Tesla is your friend. For your next purchase, I'd go with another anni barge because they are excellent for the price.

I plan on using some warrior bodies with the weapons from the deathmarks/immortals kits from both battleforces, no problem with that, right? It'll need some trimming, but it's doable I hope.
And yeah, in the future I'm going to buy a second Annihilation Barge. I'll try to magnetize one of them in case I want to run a Command Barge sometimes.

Re the deathmarks and immortals, might be doable, but you'll see a big difference in the backs of warriors vs immortals/deathmarks. Also, I think you'll need to trim some of the " tails" off the weapons, iirc.

So, suggest you are consistent ie use pure warrior legs/chests all for gauss or tesla.

The AB doesn't need magnetising as it was designed to switch between CCB and AB. only thing you'll need to magnetism is the under slung gun, which I generally leave as gauss for the ap3 shots anyway.

I juggled a bit with my available budget, and I will finally buy 2 battleforces, 2 anni barges and 1 box of immortales. That way, I'll make my own crypteks (4, 1 despairtek and 3 lanceteks, or whatever I need). Then I'll use the warriors the way you suggested! I'm going to update the list again, I'm starting to like it a lot

Awesome! Remember to have fun with it, particularly the crypteks - I custom built mine as well.

Some advice while youre getting your robot feet off the ground.

Generally ABs work better with tesla on the underslung gun. You'll generally move 6" so you can fire the destructor at full BS and the underslung can snapshot. Extra hits on your 6s are worth a lot more than 1 ap3 hit on a 6.

If you aren't filling out a slot then go crazy...Controversial but why make 1 big squad of 10 scarabs? Theyre fearless so they wont break so how is a big squad more survivable? I would argue that 3 small squads provide more tactical flex, are easier to hide and force more overkill eg. 1xmegadeathkill tank fires all its guns at a big squad...they all die or it fires at a small squad and they all die...with 2 squads left. Just don't roll the killpoints mission.

As to your list, its all good...consider shaving some wargear off your lord and getting a couple more warriors. or as mark said get zahndrek...he has identical gear (mostly) but much better rules.

Yep, you got it right Tumbleweed, I was planning on playing this list in two different ways:

-If I'm using the Overlowrd, I'll put him in a CCB and equip him with 3++ save, Semp. Weave and Warscythe. Then add 4 warriors to the smaller squad. Of course, 1 less AB.
-If using two AB, I'll use the Nemesor and 7 warriors instead of 6. I'll have 9 points doing nothing, but... Oh well!

I'll update the main post now. And yeah, I've been thinking about it, and I'll use the scarabs in smaller groups. Maybe 2x5 or 2x3 and one of 4.

If you are putting an OLord in a CCB, that is a lot of points for him. First the CCB gives him +1 to his save so he already has a 2+ save while on his barge.

Next, Scarabs in such small units is a bad idea. They simply die to quickly with their poor save and low Toughness. You are setting up a good unit to give someone first blood vs you.

I gave him he 2+ save in case the barge gets destroyed :( I still have to try this list, so depending on how it ends working for me, I'll change it.
About the scarabs (again)... DAMN, too many months playing Fantasy, I forgot about first blood :( I'll do the same I suppose: try different settings and play with what I find the best for me 2 x 5 seems like the best solution...

Tumbleweed wrote:

If you aren't filling out a slot then go crazy...Controversial but why make 1 big squad of 10 scarabs? They're fearless so they wont break so how is a big squad more survivable? I would argue that 3 small squads provide more tactical flex, are easier to hide and force more overkill eg. 1xmegadeathkill tank fires all its guns at a big squad...they all die or it fires at a small squad and they all die...with 2 squads left. Just don't roll the killpoints mission.

My initial reaction was that this statement is completely wrong. However, if you have nothing else in the FA slot, it actually makes sense. Particularly with Zandrekh, I have often found that buffing scarabs with furious charge when there are 10+bases leave me unable to get all the scarabs into the assault (but we play terrain heavy boards and have rules that walls are impassable so you have to go around). Having 2 smaller squads alleviates the problem, and if you play carefully you can actually assault from both sides, which makes it much more likely to get that elusive "kill the vehicle plus all the occupants cos they can't get out".

However, I wouldn't go too small, because of overwatch, particularly as there are a nasty number of flamers/templates around. I'd try 2x5 and see how you go.

I've been thinking about changing 1 lancetek to stormtek and make him join the warriors on foot or the immortals... Enemy charges are scary with these lists, no melee at all :(
Would that give me enough dakka to counter that weakness? That, or tremorstave...

Not the tremorstave. If you want a CC deterrent, then take a despairtek because at least you'll hit. LightningTek also good.

Reality is that you are better off just assuming the squad is dead if it gets charged and go about your business.

You need to be careful, because crypteks are characters and can challenge/be challenged. This can be helpful (or not).

tbh, overlord with MSS and a warscythe is a good deterrent, although if you lose and get swept that's expensive.

Basically...don't get charged and if you do, roll lots of 6's for overwatch.

Then the LightningTek with the 15 Warriors should be a good idea... The immortals will already be using tesla carbines, so their overwatch will hurt (I hope so).
Lot's of possible combos... Damn, I already love the necrons and I haven't bought them

Gotta love the Necron combos!

You dont want to swap in the stormtek, he'll never get to haywire stuff enough to pay for himself. Just play as you already can with the arks and scarabs deterring CC. It's pretty unusual to face much in your face these days and 1 model isn't going change much and trying to mess about with the whole list to marginally improve an element of it leaves it weaker as a whole.
If you truly are worried about a charge, drop a few scarabs, some upgrades and replace them with spyders. Cheap MCs that can countercharge like badasses, afraid of very little and that pay for themselves in the spyders they make in a couple of turns.

Agree that best option is to play arks and scarabs to deter cc. Like the Spyder idea as well, but I'd generally prefer another AB over a couple of spyders (without scarabs that is).

Having a lightningtek is psychologically useful (plus the staff isn't any worse than a Gauss flayer - well except against things with almost no armour save). I always make sure to explain to the opponent just what could happen if they assault. Sounds intimidating if you use the right tone of voice

From experience, the despairtek does a surprising amount of damage in overwatch - he's saved my Deathmarks a couple of times.

The best advice is still - don't get charged.

Thanks for the tips, Tumbleweed :_D Maybe I'll use the spiders when I get my destroyer lord and wraiths to make a melee-ish list
Well, there it goes... I just ordered these bunch of crazy robots! I'll let you know if they served me well.
Again, thank you ver much for your help!