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2013/07/20 01:09:41
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Westboro Baptists, trolling most everyone else on the face of the earth, has incurred the fairly epic trolling of the Satanists, who held a pink mass to turn Fred Phelp's dead mother gay...
Satanists Troll Westboro Baptist Church, Hold ‘Pink Mass’ Ritual To Turn Fred Phelps’ Mother Into A Lesbian
A group of satanists have turned Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelp’s mother into a lesbian.
Yes, this is a pretty bizarre story. According to ABC, the New York based Satanic Temple decided to hold a “pink mass” ceremony at the grave site of Catherine Johnston, the mother of Fred Phelps. The satanist group apparently believes that a “Pink Mass” ceremony can change the sexual orientation of the dead.
A “Pink Mass” may sound a little outrageous but it isn’t uncommon for religious groups to hold ceremonies for the dead. Mormons, for example, hold a ceremony to baptize people after they have died.
Of course, it’s not clear how serious the satanist actually take the ritual. Spokesman Lucien Greaves said that the Pink Mass ceremony was designed specifically to get a rise out of the Westboro Baptist Church.
Greaves said: “We believe that Fred Phelps is obligated to believe that his mother is now gay in the afterlife… Further, if beliefs are inviolable rights, nobody has the right to challenge our right to believe that Fred Phelps believes that his mother is now gay… No one can question our beliefs.”
The Westboro Baptist Church has built a nasty reputation over the years for boycotting the funerals of dead soldiers and holding protests declaring that “God Hates Fags.” The group recently announced that they would by boycotting the funeral of Cory Monteith.
The Pink Mass ceremony may be a made up ritual but the WBC probably didn’t appreciate all of the same-sex love occurring near Phelps’ tombstone. According to UPI, the satanists invited same-sex couples to stand on the grave and share a kiss during the “Pink mass” ceremony.
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2013/07/20 01:26:54
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
The Westboro Baptist Church has built a nasty reputation over the years for boycotting the funerals of dead soldiers and holding protests declaring that “God Hates Fags.” The group recently announced that they would by boycotting the funeral of Cory Monteith.
The Pink Mass ceremony may be a made up ritual but the WBC probably didn’t appreciate all of the same-sex love occurring near Phelps’ tombstone. According to UPI, the satanists invited same-sex couples to stand on the grave and share a kiss during the “Pink mass” ceremony.
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2013/07/20 02:04:53
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
At first I was going to comment about how you can't convert to lesbianism because science doesn't work that way. But then I realized in this context that would just be a ridiculous comment to make.
So instead, I will ask a few questions:
1. Does the article's author not know what boycotting means, or is the WBC simply planning to not attend Monteith's funeral?
2. Why is everyone associated with the Church of Satan always named something White Wolf-esque like Lucien Greaves or Azrael Dark...uh...stone? Why can't we ever hear from Church of Satan spokesman Frank Johnson, or Tom Smith or something absolutely common.
2013/07/20 02:06:22
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2013/07/20 02:23:44
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Church of Satanism is a recognize religion in the US Military....along with Wiccan....I've had maybe two individuals over my career who were Satanic...one wiccan....one actual Amish...slew of Islam...Christians...anyway...
Wonder how often they are going to hold "Pink Mass" ceremony over the grave, near the grave, whatever how many feet away from the grave....
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2013/07/20 03:00:23
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Blokus wrote: Why are they idiots Monster Lame,, I mean Rain?
There's hardly a thing they've ever done to show a sign of intelligence. Their entire dogma is so full of contradictions, it makes the Churches they try to mock look like paragons of logic and reason.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2013/07/20 03:19:14
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
2013/07/20 03:20:44
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Blokus wrote:Why are they idiots Monster Lame,, I mean Rain?
Seriously?
Jihadin wrote:....one actual Amish...
WTF? I thought the Amish were pacifists, as a fundamental principle. How'd they reconcile military service with that?
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Blokus wrote: Why are they idiots Monster Lame,, I mean Rain?
There's hardly a thing they've ever done to show a sign of intelligence. Their entire dogma is so full of contradictions, it makes the Churches they try to mock look like paragons of logic and reason.
I think this stunt shows glimmers of intelligence. After all, they clearly recognize the foolishness of claims made by the WBC, and have found a humourous and poetically just way to assault the WBC and their hateful belief system.
Even still, this is the first thing that came to my mind:
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2013/07/20 03:23:13
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Blokus wrote: Do you mean the Anton LaVey from or the true form of the beast?
They're both composed almost entirely of teenagers and people under 30, which is never a good sign. The actual commandments are somewhat contridactory to themselves (which is very easy to avoid when creating a religion). And to name the religion after Satan (who in the three religions he originated in) is the flatout enemy of humanity who rebelled because he hated us with a passion hotter than hellfire. The religion tries to talk about how the character represents freedom, but that's not in the same ballpark of the same spiteful SOB with daddy issues the character actually is.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
2013/07/20 04:24:48
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
WTF? I thought the Amish were pacifists, as a fundamental principle. How'd they reconcile military service with that?
Tripped us out to. At 18 like they do I think he was allowed to live like the rest of us for a year. Decided to join the army on a three year contract. Became a Medic. He was the only one allowed not to be issued a weapon per SGT Maj. order. Since Rifle Qual was twice a year at least the NCO's who were running Safety on the firing line would switch out with him. NCO would have his weapon on the line to. So when Byler went out to the firing line they swap places and the NCO will shoot for him if on the digital target range or we just use a M4A3 commonly called a Skillcraft pen. He go home on leave and rent a room for one night and swap from regular clothes to Amish clothes while on leave. Apparently his father agreed to the arrangement. Think he was training up to be their version of a Doctor. Still a good kid and a good soldier. Loved being a paratrooper.
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2013/07/20 05:51:19
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Jihadin wrote: Church of Satanism is a recognize religion in the US Military....along with Wiccan....I've had maybe two individuals over my career who were Satanic...one wiccan....one actual Amish...slew of Islam...Christians...anyway...
Wonder how often they are going to hold "Pink Mass" ceremony over the grave, near the grave, whatever how many feet away from the grave....
Well the Church of Satan isn't really theistic - it's atheistic. Wiccan is a legitimate religion as well.
2013/07/20 06:56:30
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Well the Church of Satan isn't really theistic - it's atheistic. Wiccan is a legitimate religion as well.
I could care less about religion. So many religion out there and no idea which is the correct religion. I mean how many version of the Bibles are there and which is the correct version. I just know when Satanism was added to recognize religion it didn't get as much shock as the Wiccan did. Christian groups went nuts over that
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2013/07/20 07:30:19
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
WTF? I thought the Amish were pacifists, as a fundamental principle. How'd they reconcile military service with that?
Tripped us out to. At 18 like they do I think he was allowed to live like the rest of us for a year. Decided to join the army on a three year contract. Became a Medic. He was the only one allowed not to be issued a weapon per SGT Maj. order. Since Rifle Qual was twice a year at least the NCO's who were running Safety on the firing line would switch out with him. NCO would have his weapon on the line to. So when Byler went out to the firing line they swap places and the NCO will shoot for him if on the digital target range or we just use a M4A3 commonly called a Skillcraft pen. He go home on leave and rent a room for one night and swap from regular clothes to Amish clothes while on leave. Apparently his father agreed to the arrangement. Think he was training up to be their version of a Doctor. Still a good kid and a good soldier. Loved being a paratrooper.
Huh. I gotta admit, if I had to join the military, I think paratrooper/medic is what I'd strive for too. But man, to do that without a weapon... that's nuts.
2013/07/20 07:45:36
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
Going to butcher the spelling. He was to everyone the genuine article of a Consientis Objecter (damn I killed both those words)
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2013/07/20 08:07:29
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
ThePrimordial wrote: They're both composed almost entirely of teenagers and people under 30, which is never a good sign. The actual commandments are somewhat contridactory to themselves (which is very easy to avoid when creating a religion). And to name the religion after Satan (who in the three religions he originated in) is the flatout enemy of humanity who rebelled because he hated us with a passion hotter than hellfire. The religion tries to talk about how the character represents freedom, but that's not in the same ballpark of the same spiteful SOB with daddy issues the character actually is.
So how is this any different from any "mainstream" religion? You could apply equally strong criticism to any of them over ridiculous claims they make.
(Answer: it isn't any different. The only reason satanism is obviously "silly" is that satanists are a small enough minority that they don't get the default excessive respect that larger religions get.)
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
2013/07/20 09:05:27
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
ThePrimordial wrote: And to name the religion after Satan (who in the three religions he originated in) is the flatout enemy of humanity who rebelled because he hated us with a passion hotter than hellfire. The religion tries to talk about how the character represents freedom, but that's not in the same ballpark of the same spiteful SOB with daddy issues the character actually is.
Satan and "the devil" weren't originally the same character. The Satan was an obedient angel who acted to test the resolve of humans.
2013/07/20 09:18:26
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
2. Why is everyone associated with the Church of Satan always named something White Wolf-esque like Lucien Greaves or Azrael Dark...uh...stone? Why can't we ever hear from Church of Satan spokesman Frank Johnson, or Tom Smith or something absolutely common.
It's part of the culture.
Implying that names like Lucien or Azrael are copying White Wolf is as dumb as claiming Tolkien ripped off Games Workshop's ideas.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Thing is the Pink mass will not adequately troll Westboro Baptists.
You see Christians of all stripes, and I am very reluctant to include Westboro Baptists in this but have to on this occasion; believe that Jesus offers an unmodifiable 1+ save vs Satanic magick.
There is a lot of cultural support on this in occult culture, the most clear example is that most African Voodoo magicians know better than to put a hex on a Christian missionary, though witchcraft is still believed to be potent in Africa and a threat from a practitioner is taken seriously. Nasty feedback occurs when a curse is placed on a missionary and the general concensus from the magicians themselves is the Christian missionaries (but not those of other faiths curiously enough) have special spiritual protection.
The Satanists may well be convinced that there is no real spiritual protection over the Phelps family, even if they are the sort of Satanist who believes that at all. However the Phelps family are so convinced of their own holy righteousness that they will be more certain than most people who claim to be Christians that their shields are up and working perfectly.
The Pink Mass will have no effect other than to encourage Fred Phelps, he will remain 100% convinced that his own righteousness will shield his mother. He could make a more reasonable theological argument that any curse launched at anyone in heaven (if that is where she is) will have absolutely no effect at all, I would even go along with that.
If the Satanists dug up her grave and carved her bones that would likely cause upset, but this ritual will only encourage Fred Phelps, if that was the intention these Satanists are smarter than they look, otherwise they are acting dumber and need to re-read the basic occult 101 about using black magic on self confessed Christians.
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2013/07/20 10:50:18
Subject: WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
ThePrimordial wrote: They're both composed almost entirely of teenagers and people under 30, which is never a good sign. The actual commandments are somewhat contridactory to themselves (which is very easy to avoid when creating a religion). And to name the religion after Satan (who in the three religions he originated in) is the flatout enemy of humanity who rebelled because he hated us with a passion hotter than hellfire. The religion tries to talk about how the character represents freedom, but that's not in the same ballpark of the same spiteful SOB with daddy issues the character actually is.
So how is this any different from any "mainstream" religion? You could apply equally strong criticism to any of them over ridiculous claims they make.
(Answer: it isn't any different. The only reason satanism is obviously "silly" is that satanists are a small enough minority that they don't get the default excessive respect that larger religions get.)
Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, Judaism are all composed of mixed followers so you're already wrong on one account
Christianity's primary tennants don't contradict themselves like Levayan satanism ( which is dramatically more contradictory ) So now that's two
accounts you're wrong on.
In my experience Satanists are easily upsettable tools or insane zealots
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
2013/07/20 10:52:49
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
If the Satanists dug up her grave and carved her bones that would likely cause upset, but this ritual will only encourage Fred Phelps, if that was the intention these Satanists are smarter than they look, otherwise they are acting dumber and need to re-read the basic occult 101 about using black magic on self confessed Christians.
You realise that this is a joke, right?
RegalPhantom wrote: If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2013/07/20 11:12:01
Subject: Re:WBC Phelps mother converted to lesbianism after death.
If the Satanists dug up her grave and carved her bones that would likely cause upset, but this ritual will only encourage Fred Phelps, if that was the intention these Satanists are smarter than they look, otherwise they are acting dumber and need to re-read the basic occult 101 about using black magic on self confessed Christians.
You realise that this is a joke, right?
I am explaining how Phelps will likely see it, and why it won't have the desired effect.
It wont troll him, it will encourage him.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.