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2013/07/20 01:28:58
Subject: Maledictions
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Do you get cover saves against maledictions?
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2013/07/20 01:46:44
Subject: Maledictions
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Cover saves can only be taken against Wounds, and Penetrating/Glancing hits.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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2013/07/20 05:25:55
Subject: Maledictions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Happyjew wrote:Cover saves can only be taken against Wounds, and Penetrating/Glancing hits.
So, if the Malediction causes one of those, then yes.
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2013/07/20 05:49:45
Subject: Maledictions
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Fragile wrote: Happyjew wrote:Cover saves can only be taken against Wounds, and Penetrating/Glancing hits.
So, if the Malediction causes one of those, then yes.
And only against that effect of the malediction, not the malediction as a whole.
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 Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/07/20 06:02:37
Subject: Maledictions
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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No saves are taken against a malediction, that's what Deny the Witch is for.
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2013/07/20 07:08:07
Subject: Maledictions
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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That rule does not exist.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/07/20 21:01:45
Subject: Maledictions
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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There is no permission to take cover saves against maledictions, so yes there is no rule that prevents it... but permissive ruleset and all.
Falcon is 100% on this. You take coversaves if there are wounds inflicted but only on the wounds, to cancel the power it's DTW.
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2013/07/20 21:18:06
Subject: Maledictions
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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 liturgies of blood wrote:
There is no permission to take cover saves against maledictions, so yes there is no rule that prevents it... but permissive ruleset and all.
Falcon is 100% on this. You take coversaves if there are wounds inflicted but only on the wounds, to cancel the power it's DTW.
If the Malediction inflicts a wound, but doesn't deny cover, then a cover save can absolutely be taken.
To say no saves can be taken as a blanket statement is not correct.
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2013/07/20 21:48:46
Subject: Maledictions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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OM is the one that comes to mind that this will apply to most.
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2013/07/20 22:51:57
Subject: Maledictions
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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 grendel083 wrote: liturgies of blood wrote:
There is no permission to take cover saves against maledictions, so yes there is no rule that prevents it... but permissive ruleset and all.
Falcon is 100% on this. You take coversaves if there are wounds inflicted but only on the wounds, to cancel the power it's DTW.
If the Malediction inflicts a wound, but doesn't deny cover, then a cover save can absolutely be taken.
To say no saves can be taken as a blanket statement is not correct.
Read what he said grendel. No saves taken against maledictions. You don't take saves against maledictions... you (might) take them against the effects but that is a different thing.
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2013/07/20 23:15:04
Subject: Maledictions
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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liturgies of blood wrote:Read what he said grendel. No saves taken against maledictions. You don't take saves against maledictions... you (might) take them against the effects but that is a different thing.
Then it's a pointless statement. It's like pointing out you don't take saves against shooting, but the wounds caused by shooting.
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2013/07/21 04:18:10
Subject: Re:Maledictions
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Clarification time: You do not take cover saves against maledictions.
However, unless the malediction denies cover saves, you may still take cover saves from wounds and glancing/penetrating hits caused by maledictions, as the rules only require wounds or glancing/penetrating hits to take cover saves, there is in fact no requirement for them to be caused by shooting attacks.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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