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Hello all. So, I've been looking to get into infinity for almost a year now, and finally have the funds/time.

I have a 40k background 4-5th ed up until 6th ed/price hike, so the hobby aspect isnt that new to me. My friends (who have hobby experience too) aren't that interested in infinity however. So, to lure them in I'm putting together a yu jing and a haqq army (200 pts each) to give them a good taste of the game.

For my Haqq army i'm going for a halqa focused army. The halqa will deploy as close to objectives/advantageous positions as possible and form the vanguard or distract the enemy. The janissary will team up the with the ghulam and flank the enemy focused on the halqa or just get up close and shotgun/cc. The djazaban's role will vary from defending objective (ghulam will team up with him instead then), capturing far off objectives, guarding the rear, or rambo-ing into close range with important lone enemies.

I have not yet played any infinity, so advice on revision of list and tactics is greatly apreciated. Yu Jing list will be up soon.

Thanks!

I'd drop the Ghulam and grab some better models. Halqa and Ghulam both fall into the 'Cheeleader' category. They're cheap for a reason, and that reason is they're not particularly good. They'll still kill things dead if you hit someone, they're better off used as order providers sitting in the back line.

Drop the Ghulam, and look at maybe some Hassassins. Muyibs would be good - a Muyib with an LGL and a Muyib witha Panzerfaust clocks in at 46pts, 1.5 SWC. That leavs 5 points, which is hard to fill, but a Nasmat wouldn't go astray. You've already got a Doctor. The Nasmat lets it go doctoring without getting into harms way. The last 2 points and 2 SWC mean you could also swap your Jannisary for the HMG variety, which would be far more preferable.

Something to remember in Infinity is always try to max out your SWC. It's not being cheesy - your opponent is going to do the same thing. Not maxing it out means you're bringing rifles against Spotfires, HMGs and missile launchers. Not a fun prospect.

 -Loki- wrote:
Something to remember in Infinity is always try to max out your SWC. It's not being cheesy - your opponent is going to do the same thing. Not maxing it out means you're bringing rifles against Spotfires, HMGs and missile launchers. Not a fun prospect.

This is not true. Some lists cannot max SWC unless you force it in; Caledonians for example. Haqq is not one of those rare armies and you should try to make the most of your SWC, so sorry if that's confusing OP.

When you play or build a list, a change you have to accept coming from 40k is not every model is going to actively do something. Sometimes several LI mooks do nothing the whole game except hide behind a wall and that's fine because their jobs are to generate orders so the muscle in your list can get things done. Building an army, especially at less then 250, you make trade offs between having enough orders to smash face and fitting in the guys that are good at smashing face. Put too many cheerleaders in (a problem in your list) , they die like flies with their poor aim and cardboard armor. Put too many expensive toys in, and they'll crawl across the table.

Try for at least 8 orders at 200 pts. Oh and proxy. Don't regret buying models you don't like to use on the table.

Ok, took advice from you guys and this is what I got. I wasn't feeling the Hassassins (will probably add a few on later tho).

I always listened to the O-12 podcast and they talk about the importance of cheerleaders all the time so I guess that caused me to go a little overboard. This list lacks a hacker, but since we're new players we won't use the advanced stuff til we understand the basics better. (We'll still be using co-ordinated orders and link teams.

That's looking better. While people will tell you it's best to get 10 orders, that's primarily at 300pts. Until you hit that, you're a bit points starved, so 7-8 is fine.

Nah, I think a list should have at least 8 orders in any give points level except for 100 (and maybe 150 but i still try to make it at least 8).

One thing I'd suggest is try testing mixing some units with Infiltration. They can support the Halqa yuo have midfield and most of them have camo to boot so that's an extra level of protection.

Honestly, at 200pts as a learning army, I can't see a problem with that. There's a nice mix of rules, heavy, medium and light infantry, a HMG, a Spitfire, a Doctor... It's a nice, varied list. 7 orders isn't going to kill his first games for him.

 heartserenade wrote:
Nah, I think a list should have at least 8 orders in any give points level except for 100 (and maybe 150 but i still try to make it at least 8).

One thing I'd suggest is try testing mixing some units with Infiltration. They can support the Halqa yuo have midfield and most of them have camo to boot so that's an extra level of protection.

My Lieutenant will be doing stuff and using his extra order, so I count it as 8.

Would some troops with just AD Combat jump do instead? I like the idea of airborne deployment (which is why I'm waiting for more 'murica Ariadna stuff) and the thought of dropping in dramatically to turn the tide of a firefight involving my Halqa when least expected is kool.

So, I've only played 2 proper games of infinity, both at 200pts, and my ragik dropping in, mid game, has been a game changer both times, really useful I've found.

My list, bahram sect by the way, both times was;

Ghulam - lieutenant
Ghulam - rifle
Ghulam - rifle
Ghulam - rocket
Lasiq - viral
Lasiq - sniper
Muyib - spitfire
Muyib - LGL
Ragik - rifle

 chopperdacat wrote:
Would some troops with just AD Combat jump do instead? I like the idea of airborne deployment (which is why I'm waiting for more 'murica Ariadna stuff) and the thought of dropping in dramatically to turn the tide of a firefight involving my Halqa when least expected is kool.

Yup. Many new players think AD is unbalanced because they deploy incorrectly or there's not enough terrain. In ideal situations, at low points, AD (especially the HMG loadouts) has the potential to kill most of an army. It's one of those things I don't involve in intro games unless its being used on me.