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 Alfndrate wrote:

 Seaward wrote:
I'm reliably told by the lunatic fringe that this was all arranged by his PR team.

Links, links, links, links, links, please I must have links!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zimmerman+rescue+fake

This one's my favorite, from good ol' TMZ:


George Zimmerman CRASH VICTIMS WERE WHITE. Actual headline, by the way.

 Seaward wrote:
This one's my favorite, from good ol' TMZ:


George Zimmerman CRASH VICTIMS WERE WHITE. Actual headline, by the way.

Since when did TMZ become a race baiting usless organization? Oh yeah...

 whembly wrote:
Reposting this from other thread... The Lynching:

Here is another good breakdown of the case that puts holes in the "Trayvon just and innocent boy" lie.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc

Relapse wrote:

This is quite the video that lays out the facts of the case pretty well.

Apart the facts that the thing about autopsy findings is a lie (autopsy says liver was normal), that 'Lean' makes you sleepy, not violent, that Zimmerman was at the night of the shooting on mind altering prescription drugs that can make you aggressive and paranoid, that Zimmerman's injuries were slight and that the police investigator said that the crime scene evidence didn't support his story about being slammed against the pavement, that the claim that Martin saying that he was going to kill Zimmerman is solely based on Zimmerman's account of the events. I'm sure there was many other lies and inaccuracies that I missed. The whole point of that segment was to make Martin look like a violent thug.

In any case, I don't find Zimmerman's actions in this car crash case odd, even though I think he acted horribly wrong in the case of the shooting. Zimmerman wants to be a hero, and this probably sometimes leads to good results. Unfortunately at the night of the shooting it didn't. He misread the situation and used excessive force. I also believe he lied about what happened; that is only human though, most people would lie to save themselves from a prison sentence.

 Crimson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

This is quite the video that lays out the facts of the case pretty well.

Apart the facts that the thing about autopsy findings is a lie (autopsy says liver was normal), that 'Lean' makes you sleepy, not violent, that Zimmerman was at the night of the shooting on mind altering prescription drugs that can make you aggressive and paranoid, that Zimmerman's injuries were slight and that the police investigator said that the crime scene evidence didn't support his story about being slammed against the pavement, that the claim that Martin saying that he was going to kill Zimmerman is solely based on Zimmerman's account of the events. I'm sure there was many other lies and inaccuracies that I missed. The whole point of that segment was to make Martin look like a violent thug.

In any case, I don't find Zimmerman's actions in this car crash case odd, even though I think he acted horribly wrong in the case of the shooting. Zimmerman wants to be a hero, and this probably sometimes leads to good results. Unfortunately at the night of the shooting it didn't. He misread the situation and used excessive force. I also believe he lied about what happened; that is only human though, most people would lie to save themselves from a prison sentence.

Show me where it says his liver was normal in the autopsy report, because the one you posted doesn't say that.
If you look into long term psycological effects of lean aside from initial ingestion, people can turn violent after using for a while. Check the second link I posted it goes into more detail and cites sources.


Here it is. It is a bit longer, but is quite good.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc

Crimson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

This is quite the video that lays out the facts of the case pretty well.

Apart the facts that the thing about autopsy findings is a lie (autopsy says liver was normal), that 'Lean' makes you sleepy, not violent, that Zimmerman was at the night of the shooting on mind altering prescription drugs that can make you aggressive and paranoid, that Zimmerman's injuries were slight and that the police investigator said that the crime scene evidence didn't support his story about being slammed against the pavement, that the claim that Martin saying that he was going to kill Zimmerman is solely based on Zimmerman's account of the events. I'm sure there was many other lies and inaccuracies that I missed. The whole point of that segment was to make Martin look like a violent thug.

In any case, I don't find Zimmerman's actions in this car crash case odd, even though I think he acted horribly wrong in the case of the shooting. Zimmerman wants to be a hero, and this probably sometimes leads to good results. Unfortunately at the night of the shooting it didn't. He misread the situation and used excessive force. I also believe he lied about what happened; that is only human though, most people would lie to save themselves from a prison sentence.

This. This this this this this.

Thank you for not making this into a good guy/bad guy binary.

Relapse wrote:

Show me where it says his liver was normal in the autopsy report, because the one you posted doesn't say that.

It says: LIVER: No diagnostic abnormality.

 Crimson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

This is quite the video that lays out the facts of the case pretty well.

Apart the facts that the thing about autopsy findings is a lie (autopsy says liver was normal), that 'Lean' makes you sleepy, not violent, that Zimmerman was at the night of the shooting on mind altering prescription drugs that can make you aggressive and paranoid, that Zimmerman's injuries were slight and that the police investigator said that the crime scene evidence didn't support his story about being slammed against the pavement, that the claim that Martin saying that he was going to kill Zimmerman is solely based on Zimmerman's account of the events. I'm sure there was many other lies and inaccuracies that I missed. The whole point of that segment was to make Martin look like a violent thug.

In any case, I don't find Zimmerman's actions in this car crash case odd, even though I think he acted horribly wrong in the case of the shooting. Zimmerman wants to be a hero, and this probably sometimes leads to good results. Unfortunately at the night of the shooting it didn't. He misread the situation and used excessive force. I also believe he lied about what happened; that is only human though, most people would lie to save themselves from a prison sentence.

 Crimson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

Show me where it says his liver was normal in the autopsy report, because the one you posted doesn't say that.

It says: LIVER: No diagnostic abnormality.

It says that under the microscope examination. Under the Hepatobiliary System summary, it notes discoloration and congestion.

Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

 Ahtman wrote:
Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

#JUSTICE4TRAYVON

Already in the OT:

One locked thread about this exact same topic
One warning to leave the Zimmerman is guilty/Martin did drugs in another thread
Two locked Zimmerman threads about the verdict

 Ahtman wrote:
Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

Maybe zimmerman threads will be like religion threads. They just keep popping up in case someone hasn't posted their opinion yet.

 xole wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

Maybe zimmerman threads will be like religion threads. They just keep popping up in case someone hasn't posted their opinion yet.

A Zimmerman-based religion!

I find it extremely funny the people here keep using the term murderer on Zimmermann after "Not Guilty" due to self defense. I already know one individual considers me a murderer on here......for self defense, shooting back and anger and seeing quite a bit of dead bodies of all ages and not caring anymore...yep....the term murderer just makes me laugh now...

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

#JUSTICE4TRAYVON

NO need to be racist, this thread is getting way off course.

 pities2004 wrote:

 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Oh for feths sake didn't we already lock this once already?

#JUSTICE4TRAYVON

NO need to be racist, this thread is getting way off course.

Racist? Why was that racist?

Hitler.

I think that's just about every internet law/rule executed, now.

In any case, is there going to be any actual discussion at this point?

It doesn't count if you do it deliberately, Avatar 720. But no, there hasn't been any actual discussion for a while now.

 Breotan wrote:
It doesn't count if you do it deliberately, Avatar 720. But no, there hasn't been any actual discussion for a while now.

It's pretty much a copy of the same thread that was posted and locked yesterday...

 Breotan wrote:
It doesn't count if you do it deliberately, Avatar 720.

Only Nazis deal in absolutes.

 Avatar 720 wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
It doesn't count if you do it deliberately, Avatar 720.

Only Nazis deal in absolutes.

False, you forgot to add the Sith

This discussion still going on?

 Ninjacommando wrote:
This discussion still going on?

No, we're just trying to up our post counts before the inevitable lock.

xole you aren't supposed to come out and say that!

 Wyrmalla wrote:
I think that my first statement inferred that a person can go out and do something good for society, but that doesn't make their past actions moot. My point was that those that consider him to be guilty would find that an article saying this would be rubbed the wrong way quite a bit. Oh hey the guy that killed my son just saved some people, guess I'll forgive him for killing my son...

Isn't that the whole point of the justice system? You do something wrong and then make penance by enforced incarceration, paying a fine or doing good works. I'm not saying the guy was guilty or innocent of murder, he is guilty of stupidity and the whole incident would have turned out differently if he hadn't gotten out of his car and followed Martin, but then Martin could have called 911 on his phone, had polite discourse with the "cracker" or just kept walking until he got to a more populated area or home.

What I am saying is that your statement is not accurate as it goes against the whole premise of amending past ill-works by doing good works; this is why police don't generally gun down someone for shoplifting or stealing a car or even for punching them, they arrest them and then that person has the opportunity to compensate society, as a whole, tort cases are for individual actions, capital offenses are against society which is why they are tried by the government, not your uncle Eddie down the block.

I blame the Long Legged Mac Daddy!