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Meh... Bloodbowl will have a very limited fan base and will never get the support it needs from GW to bring it back to life.

But an Inquisition blackbox? Count me in... I'll take, 2. Maybe 3 if my overtime comes through in time. 4 if there's cool terrain or Mechanicus minis.


++EDIT++
Or 37,568 if there are any Squats.

 Splod wrote:
Meh... Bloodbowl will have a very limited fan base and will never get the support it needs from GW to bring it back to life.

Indeed, a "very limited fan base" that has managed to keep BB going worldwide despite the 5+ or 10+ years of neglect and has spawned insane amounts of 3rd party sculpts to fill the gaps of where GW hasn't been able or willing to cover.
Bloodbowl might not the be premier game or even part of the Big Three, but it is far from dead.

That said, I would love either of these to be released, BB or 28mm =][= but I don't want to be disappointed if neither came, which is where this thread is leading me to.

Again, all signs point towards Blood Bowl or....nothing.

No INQ 40K Skirmish Game.

 insaniak wrote:

 stormwell wrote:
Well if they were intending to do a BB special one-off release then it would've made sense to say about it when Specialist Games was killed off, kinda bit of a silver lining and to build up hype for the eventual release, or better yet announce this skirmish game.

Tell people what they are working on? Sorry, that's a crazy idea. GW have sales data to prove that telling people what you are going to release before you release it means that by the time you actually release it, they've lost interest and won't buy it.

This theory is also backed up by a quick look at the release strategies used by the movie indust... oh... er... the music... er... the video ga.... er... other miniat.... um... boiling a cane toad in a pot of water and drinking the resultant unpleasant but rather psychedelic brew...






(Don't boil a cane toad in water and drink it... Seriously)

But then film producers, novel writers and music artists don't need to worry about having their product copied before its even released.

 Alpharius wrote:
Again, all signs point towards Blood Bowl or....nothing.

No INQ 40K Skirmish Game.

I agree, we're not seeing any new rumours and we're approaching the prophesied delivery time. With their current release schedule of 40k and fantasy, I don't see them investing the time or resources into getting something like this out until next year at the earliest. Also with rumours flying around with the return of specialist games next year (albeit in box sets only), this romoured game will probably get dumped into that release schedule.

Daston wrote:
But then film producers, novel writers and music artists don't need to worry about having their product copied before its even released.

Not entirely true. Back in the 90's/early 00's, there was a period there where pretty much every movie Pixar made, Dreamworks pushed out a similar (generally not as good) movie.

We've seen similar things happen with video games... Studio announces it is working on something, some other studio rushes out a similar product. There as some big post-apoc zombie game in the news for this just recently.


Copies will happen. Bunkering in and not telling anyone what you are working on is certainly one way of dealing with that. The other (or at least, the other obvious one) is to simply make sure that the end product is better than the copy. Which should be a given anyway, for the company that is the self-proclaimed market leader of miniature wargaming.


Although it's worth pointing out that GW have never claimed that the news blackout was to stop other companies from copying upcoming releases. That's purely something that the internet cooked up. GW's publicly stated reason for not telling us what they are working on is that not knowing something is being released makes people more excited to buy it.

Which is backed up by sales, apparently. Look at Space Hulk... once news leaked early that GW were re-releasing Space Hulk, everybody completely lost interest by release time. It must have been a damn heartbreaker for GW having all of those unsold Space Hulk copies just sitting there on shelves...




Oh... wait...

 stormwell wrote:

 Black Lantern wrote:
Spoke to a dude who was working at games workshop today who off the record says it's going to be blood bowl. I can't see it myself, but he was convinced. I hope it's not. Personally I've never liked the game despite owning it twice, and really trying to get into it countless times. I want to love it as it combines to of my great loves - gaming and american football however I just find it soooooo mind numbing. Wish I didn't.

I hope it's a 40k based skirmish based game as other rumours allude to.

Or perhaps I can fantasise that it'll be a beautiful, gorkamorka re-boot with beautifully sculpted forge world style vehicles and miniatures. Or totally reworking of battlefleet gothic I can dream can't I?

Pinch of salt on the bolded bit.

Agreed. In the space of day he's gone from being convinced and speaking with an inside air of certainty, to shall we say not being sure at all

The lack on an inquisition game is utter sadness.

 insaniak wrote:

Daston wrote:
But then film producers, novel writers and music artists don't need to worry about having their product copied before its even released.

Not entirely true. Back in the 90's/early 00's, there was a period there where pretty much every movie Pixar made, Dreamworks pushed out a similar (generally not as good) movie.

Which movies would those be exactly?

 insaniak wrote:

 masterdoobie wrote:
. That is, if the October release was going to be some sort of highly customizable Inquisition game, then GW would need to release kits with plenty of different guns/weapons/armor etc prior to the release of the game - so GW staff could direct customers to them.

When GW released the original Inquisitor game, it was in a different scale to 40K, and had a very small range of miniatures. It was also a miniatures-based RPG with essentially no campaign support... they just released a ruleset and a handful of miniatures and said 'There you go, get into it!'

Don't make the mistake of assuming that GW always thinks these things through.

The original Inquisitor was an RPG that they released a few models for. It was never intended to be a model game.

Not that this is any reason to not bash GW for not releasing new models for a game that wasn't supposed to have them. Presumably the sales of the models they did release weren't strong enough, or they would have.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Which movies would those be exactly?

While not specifically the pixar/dreamworks comparison (such as say A Bugs Life vs Ants) this link will hopefully give you enough examples to chew on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films

Edit: For those of you who like pictures.

http://twistedsifter.com/2013/04/strangely-similar-movies-released-around-the-same-time/

Oh my... Iron Eagle? Never heard of that one. Now I'm really curious!

Guess I'll be using my left over bits to make inquisitorial henchmen.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Oh my... Iron Eagle? Never heard of that one. Now I'm really curious!

Iron Eagle was awesome...
it was no Top Gun, but still cool...
then they went and made a few sequels that were horrible...
not good...

i'm bummed that this Inquisition game doesn't seem to be panning out...
i was really looking forward to some awesome one-off minis...
it would be nice to see GW step-up the Grimdark, and do some of the minis from the excellent pool of Inquisition art...

cheers
jah

Hidden between Dark Elf rumours:

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence (the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40

Emphasis by me.

Awesome Innocence sounds as big an Inquisition clue as you can get !

Back to excited.

Nephliim

 Kroothawk wrote:
Hidden between Dark Elf rumours:

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence (the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40

Emphasis by me.

"Innocence"? (speculation)Perhaps the game could be called "Inquisition: Innocence Proves Nothing" or something along those lines?(/speculation) The useful thing is zhangyi has provided us with a wee barometer to judge the accuracy of the 40K black box game comment with his specific demarcation of which DE units will be released when.

I want to believe I really do, but at this point I think I'll just wait and see rather than get excited; we've had too many inaccurate rumours over the last year or so.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Hidden between Dark Elf rumours:

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence (the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40

Emphasis by me.

Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I get that it's nice to have links and everything, but do you really have to ask in every thread where Kroothawk is posting things?

 Kanluwen wrote:
I get that it's nice to have links and everything, but do you really have to ask in every thread where Kroothawk is posting things?

Only in threads where I can't find the links.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I usually don't post links to posts in popular forums, when it just takes 10 seconds to find the exact same text.
Spamming the forum with the same question in every thread will not change that.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I usually don't post links to posts in popular forums, when it just takes 10 seconds to find the exact same text.
Spamming the forum with the same question in every thread will not change that.

Well, why do you nick stuff from other sites and forums, without proper attribution? And why do I have to "go search" if you obviously must be trawling these sites to steal their content over to Dakka in the first place?

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I usually don't post links to posts in popular forums, when it just takes 10 seconds to find the exact same text.
Spamming the forum with the same question in every thread will not change that.

Well, why do you nick stuff from other sites and forums, without proper attribution? And why do I have to "go search" if you obviously must be trawling these sites to steal their content over to Dakka in the first place?

QTF!!!

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I usually don't post links to posts in popular forums, when it just takes 10 seconds to find the exact same text.
Spamming the forum with the same question in every thread will not change that.

Well, why do you nick stuff from other sites and forums, without proper attribution? And why do I have to "go search" if you obviously must be trawling these sites to steal their content over to Dakka in the first place?

Kroot is attributing them as right at the top of the post is

"zhangyi over at Warseer wrote"

as for him bringing stuff over from other forums... I'd hope anybody on Dakka who browses elsewhere would do so if they find something interesting

 Malika2 wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Where's the link to the original you pilfered this from?

I usually don't post links to posts in popular forums, when it just takes 10 seconds to find the exact same text.
Spamming the forum with the same question in every thread will not change that.

Well, why do you nick stuff from other sites and forums, without proper attribution? And why do I have to "go search" if you obviously must be trawling these sites to steal their content over to Dakka in the first place?

QTF!!!

Because he's the poster DAKKA doesn't deserve.

He's the poster DAKKA needs!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


Kroot is attributing them as right at the top of the post is

"zhangyi over at Warseer wrote"

as for him bringing stuff over from other forums... I'd hope anybody on Dakka who browses elsewhere would do so if they find something interesting

But that doesn't allow an easy verification, because you need to "go looking for it". Which is needless, since Kroothawk must've been to a given site to get the stuff in the first place.

And even on an internet-forum, you need to provide proper references... or you're plain stealing.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


Kroot is attributing them as right at the top of the post is

"zhangyi over at Warseer wrote"

as for him bringing stuff over from other forums... I'd hope anybody on Dakka who browses elsewhere would do so if they find something interesting

But that doesn't allow an easy verification, because you need to "go looking for it". Which is needless, since Kroothawk must've been to a given site to get the stuff in the first place.

And even on an internet-forum, you need to provide proper references... or you're plain stealing.

Stop being so ing lazy! Use the ing google. This isn't a masters dissertation.

Zwan1One wrote:

Stop being so ing lazy! Post the ing link when you post the content.

Fixed that for you.

 Zweischneid wrote:
And even on an internet-forum, you need to provide proper references... or you're plain stealing.

He's telling you who said what and where. That's proper referencing.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
And even on an internet-forum, you need to provide proper references... or you're plain stealing.

He's telling you who said what and where. That's proper referencing.

No it is not. Proper internet citation includes a url.

http://www.netlingo.com/more/citations.php

 Zweischneid wrote:

Zwan1One wrote:

Stop being so ing lazy! Post the ing link when you post the content.

I only put effort in editing forum replies, rather than opening a new tab.

Fixed that for you.