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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 03:26:40
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Here is my Leman Russ spam list! Since I really like tank heavy IG lists! I am open to fliers since I do own the models but I'd rather not lug them em around.
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Lord Commissar 105 pts (Will be in one of the Chimeras)
PF
PP
Troops:
Veterans-155 pts
3x Meltaguns
Chimera
Veterans-155 pts
3x Meltaguns
Chimera
Heavy Support:
-1st Squadron-
Leman Russ Vanquisher-250 pts
Pask
Lascannon
Sponson Multimeltas
Leman Russ Vanquisher-200 pts
Lascannon
Sponson Multimeltas
-2nd Squadron-
Leman Russ Exterminator-185 pts
Lascannon
Sponson Heavy Bolters
Leman Russ Exterminator-185 pts
Lascannon
Sponson Heavy Bolters
-3rd "Squadron-
Leman Russ Punisher-200 pts
Sponson Heavy Bolters
Elites:
Marbo-65 pts
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 03:31:14
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Are you sure 2 troops is a good Idea? once they lose there ride those vets are Dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 03:44:08
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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kinratha wrote:Are you sure 2 troops is a good Idea? once they lose there ride those vets are Dead.
Agreed, 2 troops is risky for objective games, although you could play the "If I can't claim this no one can" game, which is equally as fun. More importantly you don't have any good MEQ, maybe consider taking a standard LRBT or Basilisk to even it out there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 03:45:36
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah but they'd start off the take I'm sure, in reserves. Let the tanks do their damage come in turn 2 or three and race for objectives.
I'd consider trying to squeeze in 2 Arty instead of the punisher, fire digging troops behind agies.though Marbo may work, but I don't think he's enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 03:50:31
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I might actually consider dropping one of the vanquishers. Every one of your tanks has a las cannon, and your vets have meltaguns, so it seems like you have a decent amount of dedicated anti-armor anyway. That being said, it depends on your meta and what you plan on playing against!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 04:02:21
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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My Meta, as it stands, consists of Orks, Necrons, Eldar (Who has two wraiths), Foot Imperial Guard (I'm the only one who plays mech, evidently) and Blood Angels. I haven't seen the CSM nor the C:SM players in awhile.
I'm considering dropping the Punisher since my Exterminators have plenty of shots and Marbo to add a pair of bassies. Maybe add in a Plasma Vet squad in and a Colossus?
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 04:06:44
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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that'd make sense given the meta. A manticore might benefit you as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 06:47:38
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My 50 cents: drop Vanquishers and take LRBT instead. They are still good against most armored targets and much better as anti-infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 07:38:35
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Douglas Bader
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AstraVlad wrote:My 50 cents: drop Vanquishers and take LRBT instead. They are still good against most armored targets and much better as anti-infantry.
No, they really aren't. LRBTs are garbage against vehicles, STR 8 ordnance has a hard time penetrating even medium AV, and AP 3 means you're not doing much on the damage table. The LRBT is an anti- MEQ specialist, you only use it against other things if you absolutely have to.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 12:18:04
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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At 1500 pt you will rarely see a lots of AV14 and with 6 meltagans, 4 lascannons and Marbo (remember that only LandRaiders are AV14 from all sides) you will have enough firepower to deal with it. I see no reason to spend 30% of 1500 pts roster at the dedicated anti-tank non-scoring units that footslogging enemy will just happily ignore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 13:54:17
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Wiltshire
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Note to the reader: my username is not arrogance. No, my name is taken from the most excellent of commanders: Lord Castellan Creed, of the Imperial Guar- I mean Astra Militarum - who has a special rule known only as "Tactical Genius"... Although nowhere near as awesome as before, it now allows some cool stuff for the Guar- Astra Militarum - player. FEAR ME AND MY TWO WARLORD TRAITS. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 14:32:07
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Repentia Mistress
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Peregrine wrote:AstraVlad wrote:My 50 cents: drop Vanquishers and take LRBT instead. They are still good against most armored targets and much better as anti-infantry.
No, they really aren't. LRBTs are garbage against vehicles, STR 8 ordnance has a hard time penetrating even medium AV, and AP 3 means you're not doing much on the damage table. The LRBT is an anti- MEQ specialist, you only use it against other things if you absolutely have to.
Whenever I see you post it's always with a bit of attitude, with a bit of edge. Why?
Ordnance 8 will do a fair job vs AV 12 which is medium armor by all means.
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hey what time is it?
"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 14:39:28
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Wiltshire
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Aijec wrote: Peregrine wrote:AstraVlad wrote:My 50 cents: drop Vanquishers and take LRBT instead. They are still good against most armored targets and much better as anti-infantry.
No, they really aren't. LRBTs are garbage against vehicles, STR 8 ordnance has a hard time penetrating even medium AV, and AP 3 means you're not doing much on the damage table. The LRBT is an anti- MEQ specialist, you only use it against other things if you absolutely have to.
Whenever I see you post it's always with a bit of attitude, with a bit of edge. Why?
Ordnance 8 will do a fair job vs AV 12 which is medium armor by all means.
I don't see any "edge" there, he's merely offering the truth. And they will only pen AV12 5/9 of the time, or 56%, which is not 'a fair job'.
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Note to the reader: my username is not arrogance. No, my name is taken from the most excellent of commanders: Lord Castellan Creed, of the Imperial Guar- I mean Astra Militarum - who has a special rule known only as "Tactical Genius"... Although nowhere near as awesome as before, it now allows some cool stuff for the Guar- Astra Militarum - player. FEAR ME AND MY TWO WARLORD TRAITS. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 14:48:56
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Repentia Mistress
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Tactical_Genius wrote:Aijec wrote: Peregrine wrote:AstraVlad wrote:My 50 cents: drop Vanquishers and take LRBT instead. They are still good against most armored targets and much better as anti-infantry.
No, they really aren't. LRBTs are garbage against vehicles, STR 8 ordnance has a hard time penetrating even medium AV, and AP 3 means you're not doing much on the damage table. The LRBT is an anti- MEQ specialist, you only use it against other things if you absolutely have to.
Whenever I see you post it's always with a bit of attitude, with a bit of edge. Why?
Ordnance 8 will do a fair job vs AV 12 which is medium armor by all means.
I don't see any "edge" there, he's merely offering the truth. And they will only pen AV12 5/9 of the time, or 56%, which is not 'a fair job'.
56% is most certainly a fair job considering it's a gun oriented towards killing MEQ and not armored targets.
What kind of rulebooks are you using were your guns are penetrating av12 more than 56% while not even being mean for that task?
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hey what time is it?
"Try looking on page 12 of the FAQ."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 15:13:03
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Probably since there are at least 6 wave serpents, prisms or other variants in any given Eldar army. Killing 1 a turn with 2 ranks isn't going to work out well.
Though i don't know if 2 anti tank-tanks is necessary in a non armored meta
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 16:47:23
Subject: Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I would drop the punisher and take an Executioner personally. Also, I would drop one of the regular Vanquishers, take a Vendetta. You might even be able to squeeze some more troops in there if you mess with the upgrades/points a little bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/12 20:25:27
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Here's an improved list. A fully kitted out Vanquisher almost as much as two vendettas and a Vanquisher can only fire at one target so, with that in mind, I replaced it with said Vendettas. I also threw in a manticore for fun.
Imperial Guard 1500 pts
HQ:
Lord Commissar 105 pts
PF
PP
Fast Attack:
Vendetta 130 pts
Vendetta 130 pts
Troops:
Veterans 155 pts
3x Meltaguns
Chimera
Veterans 155 pts
3x Meltaguns
Chimera
Heavy Support:
Vanquisher 250 pts
Pask
Lascannon
Sponson Multimeltas
2x Exterminators 370 pts
Lascannon
Hull Heavy Bolters
Manticore 160 pts
This gives me 45 Points to play around with. I could take my Veterans out of their Chimeras and stick them in the Vendettas so they can cap objectives better. That would give me 155 points. If I drop the Lascannons on the exterminators I would have 185 points which is enough for a Plasma Veteran squad which is a decent trade off in firepower. Maybe I could use the extra 15 points to give a Lascannon back.
I could also, with those points (And by dropping a Exterminator Lascannon), turn that Lord Commissar into a Plasma totting CCS
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/13 06:52:41
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard 1500pts (Lots o' tanks)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This list looks ways more competitive to my eyes! But you should consider that 6-th ed is all about "2S": Shooting&Scoring. You have a lot of shooting but your scoring is on the weak side.
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