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Is there or is there not pre-measuring in this game?

There is not. One thing you can always measure at any time though is your control area.

Control Area being your Warcaster/Warlocks Focus/Fury Stat * 2

As a general rule there is no pre-measuring.
However if you take Reinholt in your list you can use Spy Glass and measure between two models in the Warcasters LOS.

Oh and here is a tactical tip: Never Measure your control area during your opponents turn (why give him/her the free info).

Yeah, there's no pre-measuring exactly, however there are a number of things you can measure.

As stated, you can measure from your caster to any point inside his CTRL area (which is equal to his FOCUS/FURY stat x2). That's your main method of being able to measure, and it can be measured at any time for any reason (even mid movement or action), and it can be used to give you a good idea of range for the guys in front of you.


You can also always measure the Melee range of any of your guys at any time as well, which can be useful for fine placement (especially on reach models).

And during a units activation you can measure the leaders CMD area, but only between him and other models in his unit, to check formation.

J0kerrMT wrote:
Is there or is there not pre-measuring in this game?

You cannot pre-measure everything. However there are some instances where you can measure distances, most notably control areas of wacasters and warlocks. There are also abilities like reinholdt that allow you to measure distances between things at certain times. There are also certain ways to measure out distances and use those for other purposes.

So effectively, yes, there is some pre-measuring that can be done depending primarily on what you take in your list.

Why do you ask? This is a curious post without any background or knowledge of what brought it about.

Oops, well, looks like my friends and I have been screwing that up good and proper lol. We don't measure ranged attacks or charges until they've been declared, but I'm constantly measuring crap out.

I safely assume then that the "Radar Sweep" is also illegal?

I piped up mostly because I'm new, and have honestly been screwing this up. Thanks for the info guys.

Well, you just pick a point on the edge of your control area, measure to it, then pick another point, then another...and so on to get a pretty effective "radar sweep" analogue.

That said, if you're playing a timed game then it would eat time like crazy since you'd actually have to measure to each point individually.

You can do the "Radar Sweep" with your control area at any time. Even your opponents turn, although not a good idea.

The rule is you can measure the distance between your warcaster and any point in his control area at any time.

Alright, thanks guys. Checking distances for CMD and control area is cool, just not pre-measuring attacks, charges, etc.

I'll get better at distance estimates in time.

Sorry for the hijack OP, now back to your originally scheduled programming XD

No, measuring CMD can only be done during the units activation and only between the unit commander and another member of the unit. And you're only allowed to measure to the model or the max distance whichever is less.
You are allowed to measure your war(noun)'s control distance whenever you like and may make sweeps but, your opponent is allowed to have you show/tell him the distances as well.

ACK!

Well, another thing that's good to know then lol.

Thanks Leo, and thanks again guys.

Here's an article that might help people confused on the subject. it made things a bit clearer for me.

http://handcannononline.com/blog/2011/12/12/measuring-in-warmachine-and-hordes-part-1/

Don't forget you cal also measure up to 3" into forests when checking LoS between models.

If model(s) with Stealth potentially block LoS to another model, you can also check if they are within 5" or not.

Remember, if you know the Pythagorean theory you can effectively measure everything inside your casters control area

Just need a pencil, paper and VERY patient opponent

 Talamare wrote:
Remember, if you know the Pythagorean theory you can effectively measure everything inside your casters control area

Just need a pencil, paper and VERY patient opponent

Patient opponent or not, that's your clock running in tournaments.